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Diabolic Tutor
Sorcery
Search your library for a card, put that card into your hand, then shuffle your library.
Destroyerbirb on
K'rrik Son of Yawgmoth 2.0
3 weeks ago
For cuts I would recommend:
Professor Onyx - While Liliana's side job is beneficial for society (educators are very important, especially those who help us raise people from the dead), the deck doesn't have a strong spell slinger theme so her static doesnt work, the minus three is not as optimal as it makes itself out to be, and other effects are... not worth the six mana and time required.
Charcoal Diamond - You've got a ridiculous amount of ramp in this deck already, not sure this piece is needed. Plus, with the way K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth works, you want to ramp in colourless more than in black with your artifacts and similar since K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth always pays for black anyways, so Mind Stone just makes Charcoal Diamond look that much more of a downgrade.
Defense Grid - Not really seeing the point. Plus, this is meant to be a casual deck, all this will do is make everyone more upset and make interaction harder.
Saw in Half - It's a fun card not really worth adding.
Meathook Massacre 2 - I have a feeling it's a bit redundant to have both, especially since they both do a bit different things and you've got many tutors. Cutting the second part instead of its original installation would make more sense because this copy does cost a lot for its effect, whereas The Meathook Massacre became so played because it being pretty low costing for everything it does.
Paradise Plume - A lot of mana for its effect, and you have too many ramp cards.
Shared Trauma - Not too sure on this card's inclusion and what it would do.
Chain of Smog - I personally don't think discard cards are very strong in EDH, might be a good cut. I can see this being played against CEDH players and having a big effect, but EDH? Not as convinced.
Grim Tutor - You've got a lot of tutors, you can cut this one.
Final Parting - Same as above.
Diabolic Tutor - You can guess what I've got to say about this one.
Platinum Angel - I think take this one out. You can't pay life below zero so I'm not sure why else this would be in the deck.
Phage the Untouchable - As you said, you'd put it in your maybeboard and have it come out a game or two so you can just say you've killed someone with Phage, but I'd probably just keep it in the maybeboard.
Orcish Bowmasters - What are you playing, CEDH?
Opposition Agent - This is really more a meta suggestion than anything, but you don't verse people with a lot of tutors, you'd be lucky if people run more than one tutor. I'd cut this just from a meta perspective, or at least have it as a maybeboard card.
Doomsday Excruciator - Eh, nah.
Dimir House Guard - It's a sac outlet and a tutor in one, so I see what you're going with, which is why I'm only partially suggesting it as a cut, but also it's not the best at either job.
Chainer, Dementia Master - Not sure I'm feeling Chainer in this deck specifically.
Bloodletter of Aclazotz - Would be a lovely card for our cube, but I think there are already better finishers in this deck.
Asmodeus the Archfiend - Another maybe cut. It's a fun and spicy card, but also you're losing a lot of life for an effect which you do better with other cards in here. You really don't want to have too many cards that do similar things, especially since you've got many tutors and draw cards.
Cabal Stronghold - You've got three basic lands. There is no world in which you could activate this card and get a payoff from it.
Emergence Zone - Playing stuff at instant speed doesn't really help your deck.
Rogue's Passage - Zero use in this deck.
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I also have addition suggestions:
Torment of Hailfire - Not sure why this isn't here.
Swamp - Add one Swamp for every land cut.
Kjacobson6800 on
Kaalia, Queen of the Vast
4 weeks ago
Cool Build. I have a pretty mean Kaalia myself but its rather competitive. Yours looks fun to play I just tested it a few times. Love the Sneak Attack as a backup. Feel free to take a look at mine if you'd like. My only real suggestions after seeing your maybe list is to tune the creatures a bit more and sell that Alpha/Beta D-Tutor ... buy a Chrome Mox. Would leave you with a few $$ to really deck this thing out. Id also be running all 3 Talismans. A revised Demonic tutor is Rather affordable. I run Gamble Demonic Tutor, Enlightened Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Grim Tutor, And Imperial Seal. More tutors and maybe Steelshaper's Gift to get the Greaves out fast. Diabolic Tutor works just fine to go get an Avacyn or something and get the whole table salty Lotus Petal is clutch too and chronically slept on IMO, especially when it comes to Kaalia... Im pretty sure Jeweled Lotus is banned in EDH now so maybe let that one go too. Necropotence is stupid good in a Kaalia deck, especially if you can get a Reliquary Tower out. As soon as i focused more on tutors, mana rocks, and a few board-wipes Wrath of God Day of Judgment Damn She started going off quick and dirty.Sensei's Divining Top is super helpful too. I wouldn't sleep on Dark Ritual if you're short a Jeska's Will. I slip a Dark Rit in mine from time to time depending on where I'm playing. I also run Armageddon and Catastrophe. Sometimes Winter Orb ...locks everyone down once I have Her out. I Cant tell you how many times Steel Hellkite has won the game for me. Blows up all dorks and keeps opponents rocks at bay. Plus you can grab him with Enlightened tutor. Dragon Mage could work in this to help load up youre Kaalia drops without needing a Wheel of Fortune Solid build!! Ive been tuning mine for years now.
kamarupa on
Darkest Heart Challenge - Horror Tribal
2 months ago
Wow, Andramalech, it's been so long since anyone's offered such thorough comments on one of my decks. I have so much gratitude for the time and thought you put into it. My sincerest thanks!!
You're probably right that I ought to add Dismember - it's certainly useful and the deck would benefit from it's ability to get around indestructible. I kind of half-consciously considered it when I was adding Tragic Slip and [tragically?] it's usefulness slipped my mind.
I have to say, I'm not really a fan of the flavor of Chart a Course (or really quite a few sets in the last 5 years) I like my MTG to be Goblins, Elves, Dragons, and the ilk. So I've decided to swap out CaC for Sign in Blood, which is much more flavor-aligned.
I'm a tyro when it comes to Commander, so if you're saying Mastermind's Acquisition wouldn't be allowed in a tournament, I'll defer to your experience. That said, Wizards lists it as Commander legal. And the text of the spell doesn't require its caster to search outside their library, it just offers that as one of two options. Truth be told, I've gotten so used to including it instead of Diabolic Tutor I really didn't think about how Commander decks aren't allowed a sideboard for it to search. Given that it's 4MV cost is really higher than I want for a tutor, I'm happy to just cut it. It makes room for Dismember anyway. Also, I have no interest in playing any tournaments, so there's really no issue there anyway.
I hear what you're saying about the decision to include Shapeshifters. I wouldn't say your conclusion isn't rational or fair, but I would say that it's an opinion. I mean, they are Horrors, if not exclusively, then undeniably by choice - "...choose a creature type. This creature is the chosen type..." I have to say, when I view other people's decks that claim to be tribal in both their deck title and hubs and I see significant numbers of creatures that are not only not that tribe, but not even thematically adjacent or relevant - I'm usually pretty off-put. However, given that spells like Adaptive Automaton
and Metallic Mimic are strictly printed to enhance tribal builds and are very frequently included, especially in tribes that lack tribal support, I'd say I consider them fair game, if not of the best flavor. It's a good debate if nothing else.
Craeter on
Knight's Battlecry (Abzan EDH Edition)
6 months ago
Nice this looks super solid good work! I see you've got Demonic Tutor, my only suggestion would be an enchant tutor or two to help ensure you snag those powerful cards. Idyllic Tutor, Enlightened Tutor, maybe Plea for Guidance. Alternatively maybe Diabolic Intent or Diabolic Tutor or Beseech the Queen.
_AoxomoxoA_ on
Veni, Vidi, Vici
6 months ago
10/21/2024 Revisions
Why?
I would consider this update the final trimming of the really fatty parts of this deck. The main goal here was to remove some cards that only semi-synergized with the deck and to replace them with cards that really shine light on where this deck succeeds. These changes massively upgrade the token generation capability and the payoff for having them. The cards removed from here were in no ways bad cards, they just didn't quite see eye-to-eye with what the deck should be doing: Generating tokens and being very aggressive, punishing a lack of removal and interaction while also being resilient to creature board wipes. The legion always has more bodies to throw at the problem. See notes on each removal/addition and my thought process for doing so below:
General Kudro of Drannith: Kudro is a very interesting choice, but has 2 big downsides: He requires sacrificing of humans and is restricted to only dealing with creatures with power 4 or greater. This deck doesn't generate enough human tokens to justify using the second ability, especially since I'm limited to only targeting creatures with power 4 or greater. Often threats appear in the form of artifacts, enchantments or weenies that can deny my board and unfortunately, Kudro isn't equipped to handle these.
Lethal Scheme: Probably the worst card of the bunch. At best it's 0 mana to destroy 1 creature/planeswalker, at worst it's 4 mana to destroy 1 creature/planeswalker. Not great removal, and I have plenty of other removal spells
Fervent Charge: The ideal situation is to not have to rely on attack damage to kill my opponents, it's more about the attack triggers here. I think Mirror entity is just a much better/cheaper version of this card if I'm trying to win off of attack damage. It also provides no other value past +2/+2 to only attacking creatures
Commander's Sphere: I'm not starving for card draw, especially with the One Ring, and the extra mana rock is fine, but a nice to have more than anything.
Skullclamp: Similar to Command Sphere, the card draw is nice, but often my tokens end up being used for attacking or attack triggers and quickly build up past 1/1s, so Skullclamp becomes useless. Ashnod's Alter provides much more value than Skullclamp especially when combined with X-cost spells.
Queen Marchesa: She's pretty threatening just because she has Deathtouch and haste, Monarch is also a huge plus, but the last part of the card is way too slow. Generating 1 token with deathtouch per turn just isn't worth passing monarch back and forth between players, and once she's gone, all I am left with is Monarch, her having deathtouch incintivises me to use her to kill a big threat, but her 2rd ability incintivises me to keep her alive, which conflicts with Deathtouch/Haste.
Teysa Karlov: There's like no death triggers in this deck, only sacrifice triggers, and honestly I don't want to build into benefiting off of death triggers, so her first ability provides essentially nothing. Her second ability is a huge up side, but she never stuck around long enough to really use it, and other cards provide me vigilance.
Craig Boone, Novac Guard: Boone essentailly reads "Target player takes X damage where X is the number of Quest Counters on him", he's a cool card, but any good player would take face damage over having their important card be killed. The life gain and reach were big incintives to keeping him in the deck, but he's too slow and doesn't synergize enough with the rest of the deck.
Diabolic Tutor: Worse Demonic Tutor
The Nipton Lottery: I love this card. It's so chaotic and leans into my gambling addiction, but overall, Austere Command is the better boardwipe
Rabble Rousing: Great enchantment to really pump out the tokens, pretty similar to Horn of Gondor and also is less punishing to my board when blocks happen. Ensures I will always be replacing any blocked tokens.
Ojer Taq, Deepest Foundation Flip: Triple the tokens = triple the fun. Gives me more options than Annointed Processon
Goblin Bombardment: Need to push some extra damage/kill a target? We have tons of tokens to do so. Start killing the tokens generated and hit face. Darien + Goblin Bombardment + Bastion of Rememberance = win condition. In fact, Darien + Goblin Bombardment is a pretty nasty way to generate tokens if I start pinging myself for 1 damage and have a Annointed Processon/Ojer Taq on board. Super flexible card when attacking isn't an option
Impact Tremors: We're generating all these tokens, let's get another purphoros adjacent card in the deck to do some real damage more consistently
Ashnod's Altar: When combined with an X-cost spell like Grand Crescendo, or Secure the Wastes, you can double the amount of tokens you have out already
Darien, King of Kjeldor: Punishes hitting my face as well as just an overall good combo enabler.
Greymond, Avacyn's Stalwart: Probably the best human tribal card in Magic, while he doesn't enable alot of my tokens, he gives all my humans insane amounts of value. Since almost all of my creatures spells are human, I think he will be a huge boon.
Mirror Entity: This card is super versatile. I can use it to pump my tokens, avoid board wipes like Austere Command and Meathook Massacre, but it can also be used to turn my tokens into humans/soldiers for cards like Greymond, Horn of Gondor, Myrel, ect.... I have a feeling this card will be a great enabler.
Austere Command: Selective Boardwipe, what's more to say?
Demonic Tutor: Better Diabolic Tutor
Craeter on
Deathtouch Abuse
7 months ago
Lord_Olga Seems pretty solid to me! I'd just cut a couple of basic lands for two Diabolic Tutors to ensure a key combo card can be pulled when needed. The mana curve is really low so I wouldn't think 23 lands are needed, 21 should be fine. Could even go as low as 20 to push it, but 21 would be good imo.
Craeter on
Burakos the Salty Sailor
7 months ago
Nice theme, love it. If you're concerned about removal, have you considered adding more Counterspell options? Also Spellseeker, Mystical Tutor.
Mechanized Production + Treasure is a pretty dang cool win con, maybe Diabolic Tutor to help search for it. Or Fabricate to search for Strionic Resonator.
Anyway good work, pirate theme is fitting and Burakos fills that role nicely as captain. Looks fun
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