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Diabolic Tutor Discussion
3 weeks ago
I see a lot of things that dont synergise very well or cost far too much mana, i would remove Meteor Golem for Artisan of Kozilek i know its slightly more mana but has more versatility and more power. Nirkana Revenant id say is a must because she gives you more mana and can one hit someone, Reanimate , Rise of the Dark Realms , Sepulchral Primordial , Puppeteer Clique , Geth, Lord of the Vault , Chainer, Dementia Master
Malakir Rebirth Flip has no real value in this deck id remove this for Sudden Spoiling or Tragic Slip or Entomb . you need some lower mana tutors at the like Diabolic Tutor , Vampiric Tutor , Exsanguinate would be good to help balance the life. board wipes like Necromantic Selection , Decree of Pain and Black Sun's Zenith . Nim Deathmantle . things like Grave Pact woundn't be a bad idea to add. Mortuary Mire and Crypt of Agadeem
sorry i feel like ive just ripped apart the deck
4 weeks ago
I agree with trying to capitalize on creatures a little more than noncreatures since you already have Drana, Liberator of Malakir , Zulaport Cutthroat , and Liliana Vess caring about them to one degree or another. I think the best creatures to look into would be vampires since you already have a decent shell for them. Gatekeeper of Malakir or Feast of Blood could swap for Geth's Verdict , Gifted Aetherborn or Nighthawk Scavenger could supplement Vampire Nighthawk , Pulse Tracker or Vampire of the Dire Moon could replace Mardu Shadowspear , Blood Artist could replace Cutthroat, Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose provides redundancy for Sanguine Bond , Pawn of Ulamog can provide sac fodder for cards like Ob Nix or Viscera Seer , Nullpriest of Oblivion is a flexible way to reanimate beefy monsters like Sangromancer , Vampire Nocturnus , Malakir Bloodwitch , Butcher of Malakir , or Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet . Finally, while not a vampire, I'd rather play Sidisi, Undead Vizier over Diabolic Tutor if you can't afford the OG 1-2 cost tutors. BTW, I'm not saying you should run all of these cards; just run what fits your playstyle.
1 month ago
The Jace, Wielder of Mysteries/Demonic Consultation combo is really imaginative, and as far as I've seen, original.
However, I think you can gain some more mill for your mana by switching out some of your cards. If counter spells aren't that important, you can replace Psychic Strike with Didn't Say Please . Mind Sculpt may mill an opponent for seven cards, but Maddening Cacophony can mill each of your opponents for eight or more depending on if you kick it. Increasing Confusion costs more to cast from your hand than you are milling your opponent. Considering you have Leyline of the Void in your deck it may be a good idea to reconsider cards that offer multiple instances of mill to replace IC such as Altar of the Brood or Ruin Crab , in which case you may want to add in lands that allow you to search your library for lands.
Also, if the Jace, Wielder of Mysteries/Demonic Consultation combo is your primary objective, you may want to consider more tutor cards including, but not limited to Diabolic Tutor and Mastermind's Acquisition . You may also want to consider Fraying Sanity to back up your Traumatize if your opponent finds a way to exile your copy of DC.
1 month ago
Rhystic Tutor is staggeringly bad. I'd run Diabolic Tutor over it ten times out of ten, and I've even started to cut that from decks. The odds of someone paying the 2 are quite high. I know from experience.
1 month ago
Changes i made to Nooz's original list:
Cruel Entertainment -> Wilderness Reclamation
Diabolic Tutor -> Demonic Tutor
Explosive Vegetation -> Skyshroud Claim
Rampant Growth -> Three Visits
Abrupt Decay -> Assassin's Trophy
Chromatic Lantern -> Arcane Signet
Crumbling Necropolis -> Zagoth Triome
Frontier Bivouac -> Ketria Triome
Burgeoning -> Curiosity
Regrowth -> Bala Ged Recovery Flip
Shivan Reef -> Training Center
Yavimaya Coast -> Rejuvenating Springs
Strionic Resonator -> Training Grounds
Thought Vessel -> Dockside Extortionist
Metallurgic Summonings -> Shark Typhoon
Insidious Will -> Saw It Coming
Rashmi, Eternities Crafter -> Kess, Dissident Mage
Brainstorm -> Sensei's Divining Top
1 month ago
Drop Faerie Tauntings , Ashiok, Nightmare Muse , Traumatize , Trepanation Blade , add about one or two more ramp and two more card-draw at least. I almost always run 8 pieces of ramp and the prevailing wisdom is 10. Same for card-draw: I aim for 8, many aim for 10. Extra ramp is great with Oona's ability and card-draw can draw you into lands and just generally smooth everything out.
Reconnaissance Mission would be good. Treasure Cruise is often almost an Ancestral Recall and is budget too. Even though you're running Blue , Read the Bones is a great rate, as is Night's Whisper . Divination , Concentrate , and Tidings are all great on a budget, if a bit unexciting.
I love Keep Watch , Borrowing 100,000 Arrows , Theft of Dreams , Insight , Windfall , Plea for Power , Curse of Verbosity , and Manifold Insights but they are swingy. High ceilings, low floors. The mana cost on them is what makes them so good.
Midnight Clock is budget right now but it's starting to make waves. Get yours now while they're cheap. Ramp AND draw! Great on a budget.
Secrets of the Golden City and Kumena's Awakening should usually be City's Blessing-ed. I like Kimena's a lot on a budget (along with Patient Rebuilding ). Rush of Knowledge is decent if you have Oona out. Fathom Trawl is a guaranteed three non-lands, though it might be a bit lackluster with so many faeries. Not a bad card though. Mind Spring is great with ramp.
Drawn from Dreams and Dig Through Time are probably better than Diabolic Tutor until you have a game-winning card in the deck like Coat of Arms or some combo pieces (of which all are out-of-budget). I'd say drop Diabolic Tutor . Diabolic Vision is all right on a budget, as is Pilfered Plans , Forbidden Alchemy , and Notion Rain . We can probably do better, even on a tight budget.
With all your fliers, Rogue's Gloves and Mask of Memory are fantastic card-draw cards. Mask of Riddles is cute. Curiosity and Curious Obsession are decent but dangerous. Chart a Course is decent with fliers. Whispering Madness can be good with fliers too.
I have mixed feelings about Opt , Serum Visions , Sleight of Hand , Ponder , Preordain , Portent . They certainly don't hurt but they're bad late-game. I run them in some decks. Consider them if most of your card-draw is expensive. Brainstorm is a bit of a trap unless you have ways to shuffle your library and get rig of unwanted cards. This usually requires fetch lands like Polluted Delta and is better in 60-card formats.
Rain of Revelation , Archmage's Charm , Fact or Fiction , Succumb to Temptation , Precognitive Perception , Frantic Search , Pull from Tomorrow , Gush , Village Rites are all good for being instants so you can leave counterspells up and if you don't need them you can draw. That's one of the reasons a card like Anticipate looks weak but is nice for keeping counterspells open. Fact or Fiction is particularly good and is considered a staple in many formats, including EDH.
I would swap out Dimir Locket and Dimir Cluestone for Mind Stone and Prismatic Lens . Maybe Star Compass if it is in budget. I know you need your colors but 3-mana mana rocks that don't have huge upside are sooooo slow. Arcane Signet is probably out of budget, which is too bad. Is Wayfarer's Bauble still expensive? Probably. Worn Powerstone and Hedron Archive maybe? Oona isn't cheap and you want mana for her ability if push comes to shove. Trinket Mage is ramp because it can snag Sol Ring , making it the same rate as Explosive Vegetation and Hedron Archive .
1 month ago
I_Want_To_PlayAllTheDecks that's true, but I'm not playing a deck that only uses filter lands. I'm using these filter lands as a last resort to playing cards, which thereof 8 of my lnads are useful for any 2 colors that are different or the same, and since 4 of them are only one use, I can use them to pay for things like Arboreal Grazer or Elvish Reclaimer . Yes, I know that it will be very difficult to play Diabolic Tutor with my manabase, and if i really have to, I'll pay 2 mana for 1 colored mana. I plan on using these cards for Lotus Field , so that's the point.
1 month ago
Here's what I mean! On turn 1 if I'm luckky I can have any of Arboreal Grazer , Diabolic Tutor , a land--especially Mana Confluence , Aether Hub or Thespian's Stage or Lotus Field , or Wishclaw Talisman with or without Leave / Chance and/or Skybind or Vizier of Tumbling Sands . I can cast Wishclaw Talisman on turn 2, or bounce it with Leave / Chance on turn 3, Vizier of Tumbling Sands on turn 3, Diabolic Tutor on turn 4, and Arboreal Grazer as many times until I get enough for Lotus Field , which I will probably have an abundance of lands, just need to draw Lotus Field .
Diabolic Tutor , as a last resort card, on turn 4 at most, importantly, will give me what i need for either Lotus Field or Wishclaw Talisman . When I get either of these, I can use Wishclaw Talisman and tutor a Leave / Chance , or Skybind and any other card if I don't mind the opponent using it, which could be a Vizier of Tumbling Sands or Hidden Strings ; or hopefully already have a Hidden Strings with a Vizier of Tumbling Sands that I can use with my Lotus Field . However, if I tutor a skybind, it will require at least 5 mana for skybind, which is prohibitive on the game's tempo, but even pure wishclaw/skybind decks face this. If I use Lotus Field and tap/untap early, I can get enough mana for skybind easily.
Generally most people who play this lotus storm combo, are relying on land ramp to get to enough mana for a lotus field. This means that on turn 1 they really need to draw a Arboreal Grazer and/or a Elvish Reclaimer , and Elvish Reclaimer is a very nice card! Although, it is only useful on turn 3 which this card has the upside of tutoring one lotus field for those mana. Its use of 2 mana and sacrificing 1 land leaves one less land in the graveyard compared to using lotus field itself with 3 mana, which can be useful, and if we gain one more land, it can be used again!