Destroy target nonblack creature.
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Doom Blade Discussion
3 weeks ago
You're in black, you have three choices for SB cards. Duress effects, although unless you're playing historic you only have Duress itself which is the second best, only outshone by Thoughtseize.
Removal, either Doom Blade type things, stuff that kills smaller creatures, stuff that kills several creatures, etc.
Also, card draw.
1 month ago
This definitely looks like a Dimir Mill deck. First off, since you're focused around Mindwrack Harpy , I'm going to recommend Ruin Crab or Hedron Crab . I'm going to keep recommending this because they're staples in mill for a reason.
It looks like you're going for a beat-stick with Relic Golem . I'd say replace it with Jace's Phantasm which is instead a 1 mana beat-stick that gets you a 5/5. However, most mill decks opt out of using a beat-stick since they're trying to deck out their opponent.
Fruit of Tizerus is a bit wasteful to put in this deck. Glimpse the Unthinkable for a more aggressive deck or Maddening Cacophony if you're going for a slower, yet more controlling, and less aggressive mill deck.
Overall: This lacks focus... kind of. The edits are certainly an improvement, though there are some questionable card choices. This looks like a decent standard deck save for the sideboard. If you're planning on using this deck in modern, for higher-level play groups you want your average CMC to be around 2 or 3, especially in an aggressive deck.
Since this is a mill deck, I'd recommend going for a much more controlling approach vs an aggressive approach, since you have the advantage of your opponent's graveyard. Magic is a game of resources, probability, and the stack. Your opponent's graveyard is a resource. USE IT.
In the end, it's certainly a decent deck for a new player. Despite questionable card choices, it looks decent.
1 month ago
Must Add Arcane Denial
I'm not totally sold on Fact or Fiction anymore btw, nobody 5/0s anymore and you don't exactly have buckets of yard synergy (outside of Kess, Vizier, and Crackling Counterpart). I think your curiosity subtheme is a strong enough source of card draw, without paying 4 mana for 2-3 cards which every opponent sees. Also, just please put one of the Niv Mizzet's in here for combos.
Also not sure you need Frantic Search? It provides pretty good digging, but I Guess why dig for removal when you could just run more removal? If you want the dig I might run Impulse instead. It's not free but it isn't a lot and sees more cards.
Removal wise I think you're missing some staples. In my mind running Doom Blade, Go for the Throat, Hero's Downfall, Rapid Hybridization, and Pongify would really tie this together. Additionally I do not really like the Hagra Mauling or Malakir Rebirth. You should not count them as lands, the Malakir Rebirth isn't exactly inside this decks theme Hagra Mauling is just bad removal compared to your other options (See Murder).
Feed the Swarm would be a good include as well. Enchantment Removal is something you will absolutely need in our group and struggle to get in these colors.
Mirror Gallery. I question if this is necessary at all, given every copy of Sakishima would have this effect. However, a mirror gallery would likely tighten up consistency with that effect. You won't necessarily need to cast Sakishima, especially if its commander tax gets really up there.
Oh, I'm not entirely sure you've recognized how good Vial Smasher + x Spells are. X spells on the stack have CMC equal to what you spent on them, so like a Blue sun's Zenith or Pull from tomorrow could just absolutely destroy people.
Mogg Salvage is wack, but I like it. I'd put it towards the top of the cut list though.
Overall I think this deck works pretty well as it is. To improve this deck I think you need to streamline your control elements in the form of cheaper and more effective removal/counterspells. You have missed a lot of our table's current meta as well, but i should warn you that Dean has a Breya deck that has been very controlling recently. You cannot expect to maintain a Sakishima/Vial Smasher board state for very long, and it would probably not get very large before it is dealt with.
1 month ago
Previous answer basically covered it but the short version is that it if doesn't tell you an amount of damage, it doesn't do any.
1 month ago
There are three ways a permanent can be destroyed, as per rule 701.7b--
701.7b The only ways a permanent can be destroyed are as a result of an effect that uses the word “destroy” or as a result of the state-based actions that check for lethal damage (see rule 704.5g) or damage from a source with deathtouch (see rule 704.5h). If a permanent is put into its owner’s graveyard for any other reason, it hasn’t been “destroyed.”
As you can see, just using the word "destroy" puts the creature into the graveyard from play, without having to deal damage to it. And that's what Doom Blade does: destroy without damage. If a source deals noncombat damage, it says as much (for example, Lightning Bolt).
1 month ago
I was playing in a Commander stye game recently, and I cast Doom Blade on a Hornet Nest. What then occurs? If Hornet's Nest is dealt lethal damage it seems it would then create two Green Insect Creature tokens with flying.
If not, the question would then be how does Doom Blade deal damage? Any clarification would be much appreciated.
1 month ago
Okay so I believe I mentioned this last time you brought up the format but I don’t recall the answer. How do you deal with non-land sources of mana or non-basic lands. Your rules say you CAN pay for mana with basics existing but is it possible to still tap a non basic for mana to pay a cost? For example if I have a swamp and a Volcanic Island on the battlefield. Can I play a Doom Blade by tapping my non basic for 1 and using my swamp for the other portion? Theoretical reasons for this could include ramping with artifacts or fetching for a dual land to get 2 off colors.
Also your van list includes things shuffling the grave into the library. Is my assumption correct that you also intend to ban cards like Conjurer's Bauble?
You mention “cards with the ability to mill” are banned and that all damage to self is mill. Is your ban inclusive of cards that deal damage to self/opponents since that will mill? I assume not and you intend that to be cards with the mill keyword. But there are also cards with this same style effect not key worded as mill such as Mulch. And cards that exile from library such as Salvage Drone. May be a good idea to be clear about what you plan on excluding.
You also exclude abilities that can “reanimate”. I took that to mean putting a creature onto the battlefield from grave. But this is not a keyword and you’ll have to be specific. There’s also cards like Living End which will likely get around any wording for Reanimation. I also didn’t take your wording to mean banning of cards that return cards to hand. I also saw nothing stopping someone from using Snapcaster Mage on non-creatures in grave which I’m unsure if that was intentional or not. You could make the rule a bit more all encompassing by changing the rule to something like Grafdigger's Cage.
I also built a deck to test this format assuming you can use fast mana. this deck 100% wins turn 1 if you get a mountain in the opening 7 and the opponent doesn’t have Force of Will. You can still win turn 1 if you have to mulligan to less than 7 I was just too lazy to check how the math works out with less than 7. All you need to do is cantrip through 24 cards, play and crack the lotus then grapeshot twice for lethal. The cantrips don’t need to be red I just did it because it matched the grape shots. The deck can also be built with more than 3 mountains that is more consistent and doesn’t lower its chance as much in a mulligan but it technically leaves open the chance of whiffing the combo on turn 1 and I thought it made a better point to demonstrate things this way. Also note this deck is not even remotely optimized. It could be made far more efficient and sleek with time and testing.
Deck Jok test
My list is just an example of how I believe the format will play out. Storm-like decks and decks mulling to make sure they open with a Force of Will. If you see a reason it won’t end up like this feel free to point out anything I missed. But I think you need to find a way to limit people in some way.
1 month ago
I think you'd be better off going far away from mill.
A lot of newer players make the mistake of thinking "wow, it's a way to win that denies my opponent resources". It's not. It's a way to win that actually gives most of your opponents resources.
Even if you're playing casual, if your friend has their own Gravepurge then you just gave them a huge advantage.
However, there's another archetype that you definitely have some of the cards for and the rest is cheap: blue black control.
Try this basic list:
4x Doom Blade
4x Cast Down
4x Crux of Fate
Then add in your Dragonlord and that Liliana as well as some other big fun blue/black cards that win. Not the Abberations tho. The Necromasters will do fine.
Then, I recommend picking up some better untapped fixing and replacing those Refuges with River of Tears.
That list should cost you about $30. I've included budget options for the cards that may be more expensive, but if possible use the first in each line rather than the second.
I think you'll like that list a lot more, and do pretty well with it. With some slight tweaks(mostly replacing Preordain and Ponder with Opt and Serum Visions), it'd be playable in Modern, and, if you're skilled enough, you should be able to pick up some wins and do fairly well.
But that's just me -- if you don't like that direction, that's fine. Mill can be pretty fun sometimes.