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Dimir Cluestone
Artifact
{T}: Add {U} or {B} to your mana pool.
{U}{B}, {T}, Sacrifice Dimir Cluestone: Draw a card.
SniperFrog on
Oona
1 year ago
Alright. So there's a couple things I would change, but I don't want you to think it's better or anything, just what I would do. I'll give budget suggestions and non budget suggestions so you have a variety of choices without hurting the wallet.
I think I would go for mono blue so I can get Bruvac the Grandiloquent's effect in my command zone. It seems actually nutty to just be able to get this guy going. That being said, I like a lot of the black spells you have here, namely Mind Grind and Nightscape Familiar, so I would consider something like Phenax, God of Deception or maybe Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker to stay in dimir. Not really sure the red is helping much at all, though. Only four red cards is a bit of a bad look, though they seem cool in theory. I've never played any of them, so I don't really know how good they actually are.
So there are a few optimizations I would consider as well. Three mana rocks are a bit slow for my tastes and there are a lot of decent options at two mana, I'd recommend Fellwar Stone, Mind Stone and Arcane Signet to name a few cheaper options. There's also Sapphire Medallion, Chrome Mox and Mana Vault, though those are strictly non budget.
More optimizations for interaction seems good here as well. Maybe drop some of your three mana counterspells for some one or two mana spells. Counterspell is a mainstay and at very good price as well. I like Swan Song, An Offer You Can't Refuse and Drown in the Loch in this slot. There are a plethora of non budget options as well, particularly free counters like Force of Will and Force of Negation or other heavy hitters like Mana Drain and Cryptic Command. Plenty of cool things to do with this, however, so you have options.
Your lands look rough. I personally will always go with untapped lands with so many options, but that can get really pricy, really fast. Of course, if you didn't have to worry about a red splash, your landbase gets A LOT better.
If you're having trouble with hitting enough lands, consider lowering the curve a bit or even adding a couple more to try to smooth things out. I generally try to have around forty-two to forty-five mana sources, though my curves are usually around 2-2.5, so you might want a little more than that, maybe. I don't know. That's something you can figure out with playtesting.
Now comes the fun part. As it stands, including the above mentioned cards, I would try to find room for these:
Into the Story for some card draw.
Leyline of the Void or something similar like Planar Void along with Helm of Obedience mills infinitely. Also pretty good to beat the eldrazi triggers if you see these things regularly.
Rhystic Study and its baby brother Mystic Remora are both excellent card draw spells with humongous upside, though they are both getting a little on the expensive side now, with Rhystic pushing forty or fifty bucks.
I like Bitter Ordeal, but I think this is kind of a pet card that I want to make work, so I might be projecting here. lol
Reanimate effects seem VERY strong here. I like the ones that target opponent's graveyards the most, so I would stick with Animate Dead and Dance with the Dead along with the aforementioned reanimate. Didn't think about this at first. Could be really sweet.
Mesmeric Orb is money in these decks. Gives mad inevitability.
Altar of the Brood and Altar of Dementia are both combo pieces, but I feel like they're more build arounds than good on their own.
Folio of Fancies. I've never seen this card before, but I love it. Seems like it would fit nicely.
Tome Scour and Brain Freeze are insane with Underworld Breach but this is another build around that pulls you more into storm than mill, I think. Still maybe worth thinking about.
Sands of Delirium seems sweet.
A few draw X spells could be just what you need. Stroke of Genius, Pull from Tomorrow, Fascination and Prosperity come to mind. Skyscribing also seems sweet, but I'm not sure how good it is.
Some cards I would just outright cut:
Gravepurge, not positive what this is doing for you, beside gumming up your draws. I guess it can get something back but not sure it's relevant. Hard to say without playing the deck.
All three mana rocks. Darksteel Ingot, Dimir Cluestone, Ur-Golem's Eye, Hedron Archive are a few. There are actually a few more than I thought, so maybe cutting all of them isn't the right thing to do unless you are cutting like for like for cheaper rocks.
Grisly Spectacle, I feel like you can get a better removal spell. I see the appeal, but I feel like it will get at most six cards milled maybe. Something like Feed the Swarm is probably just better or Drown in the Loch which hits two birds with one stone.
Countermand. Four mana counterspell seems like a really hard ask. I know it's on theme, but something cheaper is probably just better. See above for suggestions on cheap counters.
I would maybe cut some other, stuff, but I feel like I've already given you a lot to think about. Love the list. I'm excited to see it once you've had a chance to keep tuning it. Follow for sure. :)
Tic12 on
MTG list of EDH Ramp Cards | last update: 30-05-22
1 year ago
Nice list and really helpful if you start with a new color combination for the first time.
Some green cards to edit:
Some Artifacts:
For some reasons, i like the 5 alara borderposts: Fieldmist Borderpost, Wildfield Borderpost, Mistvein Borderpost, Veinfire Borderpost and Firewild Borderpost.
You also missed the 10 Cluestones (Dimir Cluestone...) as well as the 10 Lockets (Azorius Locket...).
Maybe you have to sort the artifacts a bit more (1 color, 2 colors, etc.)
Misconception on
Always Loot the Bodies
1 year ago
Great Anowon deck!
What do you think of running Psychic Corrosion instead of Teferi's Tutelage for a symmetrical effect?
Commander's Sphere is strictly better than Dimir Cluestone since you don't need to invest more Mana to sac it and draw. You can even sac it to draw after you tapped it for Mana!
Also, Lazav, Dimir Mastermind is an amazing "graverobber", especially since you can change his form again and again, whenever anyone mills a creature.
What are your thoughts on Sepulchral Primordial?
Maybe you can make some space for Feed the Swarm for that sweet enchantment removal in Dimir, altough only at sorcery speed.
Optimator on
3 years ago
Drop Faerie Tauntings , Ashiok, Nightmare Muse , Traumatize , Trepanation Blade , add about one or two more ramp and two more card-draw at least. I almost always run 8 pieces of ramp and the prevailing wisdom is 10. Same for card-draw: I aim for 8, many aim for 10. Extra ramp is great with Oona's ability and card-draw can draw you into lands and just generally smooth everything out.
Reconnaissance Mission would be good. Treasure Cruise is often almost an Ancestral Recall and is budget too. Even though you're running Blue , Read the Bones is a great rate, as is Night's Whisper . Divination , Concentrate , and Tidings are all great on a budget, if a bit unexciting.
I love Keep Watch , Borrowing 100,000 Arrows , Theft of Dreams , Insight , Windfall , Plea for Power , Curse of Verbosity , and Manifold Insights but they are swingy. High ceilings, low floors. The mana cost on them is what makes them so good.
Midnight Clock is budget right now but it's starting to make waves. Get yours now while they're cheap. Ramp AND draw! Great on a budget.
Secrets of the Golden City and Kumena's Awakening should usually be City's Blessing-ed. I like Kimena's a lot on a budget (along with Patient Rebuilding ). Rush of Knowledge is decent if you have Oona out. Fathom Trawl is a guaranteed three non-lands, though it might be a bit lackluster with so many faeries. Not a bad card though. Mind Spring is great with ramp.
Drawn from Dreams and Dig Through Time are probably better than Diabolic Tutor until you have a game-winning card in the deck like Coat of Arms or some combo pieces (of which all are out-of-budget). I'd say drop Diabolic Tutor . Diabolic Vision is all right on a budget, as is Pilfered Plans , Forbidden Alchemy , and Notion Rain . We can probably do better, even on a tight budget.
Soul Ransom is kind of faerie-ish. Pact of the Serpent maybe?
With all your fliers, Rogue's Gloves and Mask of Memory are fantastic card-draw cards. Mask of Riddles is cute. Curiosity and Curious Obsession are decent but dangerous. Chart a Course is decent with fliers. Whispering Madness can be good with fliers too.
I have mixed feelings about Opt , Serum Visions , Sleight of Hand , Ponder , Preordain , Portent . They certainly don't hurt but they're bad late-game. I run them in some decks. Consider them if most of your card-draw is expensive. Brainstorm is a bit of a trap unless you have ways to shuffle your library and get rig of unwanted cards. This usually requires fetch lands like Polluted Delta and is better in 60-card formats.
Rain of Revelation , Archmage's Charm , Fact or Fiction , Succumb to Temptation , Precognitive Perception , Frantic Search , Pull from Tomorrow , Gush , Village Rites are all good for being instants so you can leave counterspells up and if you don't need them you can draw. That's one of the reasons a card like Anticipate looks weak but is nice for keeping counterspells open. Fact or Fiction is particularly good and is considered a staple in many formats, including EDH.
I would swap out Dimir Locket and Dimir Cluestone for Mind Stone and Prismatic Lens . Maybe Star Compass if it is in budget. I know you need your colors but 3-mana mana rocks that don't have huge upside are sooooo slow. Arcane Signet is probably out of budget, which is too bad. Is Wayfarer's Bauble still expensive? Probably. Worn Powerstone and Hedron Archive maybe? Oona isn't cheap and you want mana for her ability if push comes to shove. Trinket Mage is ramp because it can snag Sol Ring , making it the same rate as Explosive Vegetation and Hedron Archive .
Omniscience_is_life on
3 years ago
Nice build! My only suggestions are cutting Chromatic Lantern--you really shouldn't need it in two colors. A Thought Vessel would do you well, if you added it. Similar deal with Exotic Orchard, the mana fixing just isn't necessary... just add an island :). I would also consider cutting Dimir Cluestone in favor for Fellwar Stone: two-mana rocks are just so good!
MrFuzzykenz on
All Hail Our Lord and Savior, Cthulu
3 years ago
Love the deck theme idea! Just want to say you have it listed that you have two copies of Selective Snare.
I'm going to say right off the bat that Meteorite, Diabolic Tutor, Bridge from Below, Laboratory Maniac don't belong in your deck because they are just bad cards. Although Laboratory Maniac is a fun alternative win condition, your deck simply doesn't have the mill power to achieve this and even if you did you have a greater chance of milling that him; because he's odd cost you can't use your commander to bring him back.
I am confused as to why you're discarding for graveyard strength when the only thing that benefits from having things in your graveyard is Apocalypse Demon. I want to point out that your commander Gyruda, Doom of Depths ability can only return a creature card of even mana cost from the four cards that everyone milled. So you won't be able to return anything that's already in your graveyard.
One other point I want to make is that taking the top four card from your library and things like taking putting the top card of your library {example: Deranged Assistant }into your graveyard don't count as drawing cards so Oneirophage and Chasm Skulker won't trigger.
Lastly after play testing your deck a couple times the biggest weakness this deck has is the fact that your commander is 6 mana below I'll suggest some budget mana rocks, because the faster you have you commander online the faster your deck and do kraken things ^-^ but all of these mana rocks will be better than Meteorite which is very bad.
Good Luck on your deck! Hope that was helpful!
Everflowing Chalice, Hedron Archive, Star Compass, Prophetic Prism, Prismatic Lens, Mind Stone, Worn Powerstone, Spinning Wheel, Silumgar Monument, Manalith, Mana Geode, Fountain of Ichor, Drake-Skull Cameo, Dimir Cluestone, Dimir Keyrune, Darksteel Ingot
Optimator on
Mermaider
3 years ago
Wayfarer's Bauble kicks the shit out of Dimir Keyrune and Dimir Cluestone
RobsJourney on
4 years ago
- Izzet Cluestone > Talisman of Creativity (Despite the 1dmg per tap, it's just much better, 1dmg in commander isn't much)
- Dimir Cluestone > Mountain (Cut this so you now have 10 ramp artifacts, 10 is about the right number in general if you aren't running green, where you generally use cards like Cultivate and Rampant Growth . This also put you at 36 lands which I find a good number, you were at 34, a lot of people say 37-38 is best!)
- Drowned Catacomb > Evolving Wilds (This just saved $5 USD, though a bit of a downgrade it's still good to have Evolving Wilds).
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