Creature — Zombie
When Skinrender enters the battlefield, put three -1/-1 counters on target creature.
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|Scars of Mirrodin (SOM)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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2 months ago
I personally prefer more proliferate style decks or decks that have significantly more counters thrown around with things like Skinrender, Incremental Blight, and mass proliferate with things like Contagion Engine.
4 months ago
if this deck is for casual then i'd say its pretty alright for a fun break from the norm. Only 10 cards short of a commander deck too if you want to go that route. But if you're looking for more competitiveness, I'd say to do the following:
The first thing we need to do before anything, is to figure out the strategy we're going for. Obviously a token based liliana deck is way out of reasonable budgets. The blue you added does give me an idea for a control based zombie deck.
So the first thing to do is remove the cards above 60 that we wouldn't need, along with cards that will don't either assist or protect our strategies. I would start by removing the following: 2 - Advanced Stitchwing. 2 - Certain Death. 1 - Collective Brutality. 1 - Corrupt. 1 - Corrupted Roots. 2 - Disentomb. 1 - Doom Blade. 1 - Essence Harvest. 1 - Gnawing Zombie. 1 - Grixis Slavedriver. 1 - Grixis Grimblade. 1 - Hunted Ghoul. 1 - Haunted Dead. 3 - Ingenious Skaab. 4 - Laboratory Brute. 1 - Lamplighter of Selhoff. 1 - Maalfeld Twins. 2 - Macabre Waltz. 2 - Midnight Recovery. 1 - Mistvein Borderpost. 1 - Moan of the Unhallowed. 2 - Paranoid Delusions. 1 - Polluted Dead. 2 - Psychic Strike. 1 - Recover. 1 - Rise from the Grave. 1 - Scrapskin Drake. 1 - Shambling Attendants. 1 - Sibsig Host. 1 - Sibsig Muckdraggers. 1 - Sidisi's Pet. 1 - Sip of Hemlock. 1 - Skinrender. 1 - Spineless Thug. 1 - Stitched Mangler. 2 - Thraben Foulbloods. 1 - Strange Augmentation. 1 - Undead Executioner. 1 - Zombie Outlander. 15 - Swamp. 10 - Island.
It IS Quite a lot, but it's because we need to make room for the cards that'll make the bulk of our strategy, not to mention there are cheaper, better alternatives to most of these cards (lands were removed because the mana base will be changed later). With these cards taken out, that leaves us with the following: 3 - Cemetery Recruitment. 1 - Ghastly Conscription. 1 - Sign in Blood. 1 - Graf Harvest. 1 - Rooftop Storm. 2 - Gavony Unhallowed. 1 - Jhessian Zombies. 1 - Vedalken Ghoul.
these are pretty linearly focused for an effective strategy. to fluff out the rest of the cards for the deck, I'd recommend:
+1 - Cemetery Recruitment. +3 - Sign in Blood. +4 - Mana Leak. +3 - Duress. +3 - Vedalken Ghoul. +3 - Jhessian Zombies. +1 - Rooftop Storm. +4 - Go for the Throat. +4 - Rotting Rats. +3 - Claim / Fame.
4 months ago
Nice! It's also worth pointing out that you can also put together a $15 deck just focusing on negative counters. In addition to Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons, there's Obelisk Spider and Nest of Scarabs as payoffs, along with cards like Decimator Beetle, Skinrender, etc. I tried to put together a deck like that awhile back, but I could never get it down to $5.
6 months ago
IzmAYAYA: The best advice I can give is that high-power creatures are not very powerful: life totals matter a lot less than in EDH. For example -- Nessian Boar is an actively awful card in EDH, because your opponent will almost always be happy to get a bunch of cards, especially since they can plan around it (because it doesn't have haste). And even if it goes through -- who cares about 10 damage? It's only 1/4 of a single opponent's life total (or, put another way, 1/12 of the total damage you'll need to do over the game). So cards like Knight of the Ebon Legion, Nessian Boar, Questing Beast, Lovestruck Beast, etc aren't very good in 40-life multiplayer, because the type of pressure you have to apply is different.
Sisters of Stone Death CAN be fine, but she's very VERY mana intensive. I'd only run her if you run a lot more ramp.
I'd also tentatively recommend against Skinrender, because it only gets you a single snake. Still, depending on your meta, it can be pretty sweet.
Both of your PWs seem... so-so, and too high-cmc; if you want to run a planeswalker I'd recommend Vraska, Golgari Queen. She did good work for me once upon a time, since you can protect her well, she draws cards by sacrificing excess tokens, and her third ability is absolutely brutal.
I didn't love Uncage the Menagerie when I ran it (remember that all the creatures have to have cost exactly X, no more and no less). But it might work better for you, keep me updated on it.
I'd highly recommend Eldrazi Monument if you can afford it.
Finally, I'd generally recommend lowering your curve. My deck barely gets away with 34 lands and 13 other mana sources, and I have a much lower curve than you. I would suggest starting with 35 lands and at least 5 mana rocks/dorks, and work from there. I'd aim for an average CMC around 3 -- anything over 5 mana should threaten to win the game IMMEDIATELY, within a turn cycle or two.
Hope this helps! (Oh, and you can mark a deck's format as "Commander", and put the commander in the correct place by typing [asterisk]CMDR[asterisk] on either side of her.)
6 months ago
This would be an example of one of the best midrange decks in Modern right now, Jund: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-jund-46470#paper
A midrange deck wants to have the strongest cards at each point on the mana curve, and wins by having cards that are just better than your opponents. In the case of Jund, your mono red opponent's Monastery Swiftspear gets embarrassed by Tarmagoyf, and Wrenn and Six is a whole lot better than something like Snapcaster Mage from azorious control.
Now, as for changes, I will tell you what I would do, but you can take only some of the suggestions and make the deck your own.
First, remove anything that costs 5 or more mana except possibly Gray Merchant of Asphodel, along with all of your ramp or land search cards like Armillary Sphere and Cabal Stronghold. You want to put on pressure early and destroy your opponent's creatures, and you can't do that if you are spending mana trying to ramp or have big creatures stuck in your hand.
Second, remove all of the artifacts you have left, with the possible exception of Panharmonicon. Panharmonicon is really fun and I would up it to 3 copies if you really want to go all out on the ETB abilities, but just know that it won't be the most competitive. The rest of your artifacts are really only good when you're already winning, and the majority of the time they would be better as another creature or a piece of disruption.
Third, remove some of your weaker creatures. Fourth Bridge Prowler is decent if your local scene has a lot of decks like spirits and bant snowblade where decks have a lot of creatures with one toughness, but it's a lot weaker if your opponent's are playing big creatures or no creatures at all. Burglar Rat and Yarok's Fenlurker are often weaker than Brain Maggot or Kitesail Freebooter since opponent's can choose the weakest card in their hand to give up with your current line up, but with a switch you get to choose what to get rid of (Yes, they get their card back if your creature dies, but they generally have to use a removal spell on a 1/2 creature and don't get to play their card as early as possible, so you end up ahead). If you decide to play a lot of those, Wasteland Strangler can be a cheaper Skinrender and prevent your opponent from getting those cards back when your disruption dies. Quag Vampires is never an impressive card, and Cauldron Haze is really awkward to play because you really want to be using all of your mana each turn to deploy threats, and you very rarely will have 2 mana open, haze in hand, and not want it to be removal or disruption.
Fourth, add more disruption and removal. Cards like Inquisition of Kozilek and Victim of the night will help supplement your creatures ETBs by either being cheaper or at instant speed. Disruption is essential against control and combo decks so that you can get rid of sweepers like Supreme Verdict, win conditions like Teferi, Hero of Dominaria, or their combo spell like ad nauseum. Removal is required to deal with creatures from aggro and midrange, along with big beaters like Primeval Titan in big mana decks (Tron, Amulet Titan, etc.)
Finally, play multiples of the stronger cards, go up to at least 23 lands, and fill out the rest of the deck with meta game cards. Wrench Mind and Despoiler of Souls can be solid against control, Gifted Aetherborn and Nyxathid are good against aggro, and things like Sign in Blood and Pack Rat give the edge in midrange matches. Pick whichever ones best address your local meta/ you like the best, and then you'll use your sideboard to cover other matches.
You'll also want a sideboard if you're actually playing at a local tournament, but start with the main deck first to figure out what you actually need to sideboard for.
A couple of additional resources: For figuring out how many lands: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/brewer-s-minute-how-many-lands. For a more in depth explanation of Mid range decks: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/how-build/how-build-midrange-2017-02-07
Finally, if you're looking for ideas, just google " modern mono-black midrange budget" and you'll find a decent number of options.
I hope this helps.
9 months ago
Based on your post I see that you have reached the dreaded "I need to cut the last few cards" part of deck building.
One thing I always do at this point is to create custom categories for the various aspects of my deck. For example, you could make "add -1/-1 counter", "profit from -1/-1 counter", "ramp", "card draw", etc, categories. This always help me organize the focus of the deck, locate cards that are off theme or oddly specific, as well as find areas where I am imbalanced (i.e. too much removal and not enough ramp).
A couple examples: Veil of Summer is a really good card, but it is pretty niche. If your meta isn't heavy blue-black or it isn't very competitive, then Veil may not be needed.
Another example is Ivy Lane Denizen . It may seem like making your 1/1 snakes into 2/2's is great, but is it really needed? Your snakes already have deathtouch so they automatically trade with anything in combat. The added 1 power on each snake is fine, but not game ending. Triumph of the Hordes , Craterhoof Behemoth , Finale of Devastation , and Beastmaster Ascension are all much better finishers and make Ivy Lane Denizen unnecessary in my eyes. If you are set on a running Ivy Lane Denizen then I would suggest trying out Path of Discovery instead. It still can put a +1/+1 counter on your snakes, but it also provides card advantage.
So in my opinion, I would consider cutting any of: Ivy Lane Denizen , Veil of Summer (depending on your meta), Eldrazi Monument , Ammit Eternal , and Bane of Progress (this is a very good card, but your deck relies too much on it's enchantments and artifacts). I would also consider cutting Blightsteel Colossus , but that is more of a personal opinion for me.
If you do find yourself wanting to consider other cards any of the following are pretty strong in Hapatra decks: Contagion Engine , Contagion Clasp , Blowfly Infestation , Carnifex Demon , Skinrender , and Crumbling Ashes .
I hope this helps and happy deck building!
9 months ago
Thanks for the suggestions. I was eyeing Skinrender as well. It would be good against indestructible stuff, but would require multiple ETBs to take something out. I could probably part with Noble Benefactor as well, and may not need another tutor.
That should do it! I just need to cram in the last artifact for more combo goodness.