, , Sacrifice Expedition Map: Search your library for a land card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library.
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Expedition Map Discussion
2 weeks ago
glhfJKiHax Oh shit I didn't even think to copy my opponents stuff! You're right, it's going in. I'll have to take a look at options tomorrow. Don't think I'm a huge fan of Expedition Map though. It's a bit slow and Thought Vessel isn't there just for the hand size perk, it's also ramp, and one that I think is good in a deck that is already low on artifact ramp due to being landfall based. It's not really worth dipping into with Gretchen as commander because hypothetically, the deck is designed to just start pumping out land after land after land from card draw loops. If I need to search my library for lands to put into my hand, my commander failed to do what she is supposed to do, I think.
I think Nylea's Intervention is too slow as well although I do think Sylvan Scrying is a good option. Not sure what I'd replace, though. I don't think it's more valuable than the other 2-mana ramp spells in my deck, even though they only look for forests; can always tutor forest islands these days and if I can't, then I've ramped to oblivion already. I would for sure take it over Rampant Growth though, and I was considering putting that back in the deck as well, so it's probably my new consideration.
2 weeks ago
It can be frustrating hold on to it but a favour combo of mine in my Aesi deck is to drop it targeting my Avenger of Z and having all the plants enter as copies of it creating even more plants. Then just drop a land and get +7 A of Z triggers making a forest of swole plant tokens.
As I mentioned as well, it doesn't need to target something of yours. I have had an opponent drop a huge power creature only for me to turn it into a vanilla token, so it can work that way as well.
Double Major is def a great cloner though.
Expedition Map is a great turn one play that would replace Thought Vessel and help you search for Reliquary Tower getting you a land drop to help with landfall triggers. Nylea's Intervention and Sylvan Scrying would also be beneficial i think as they can also help search out non forest lands that you might need.
2 weeks ago
HEY BUDDY!!! Good to see you still here!
thanks for the insight and as always appreciate the comment. I'm still hunting a Mox Diamond, but the things that come to mind (by my understanding of what is considered "mana abilities") as targets for Moonsilver Key in this deck are:
otherwise I just use it to fetch a basic, I don't have access to Sword of the Animist at this moment either
3 weeks ago
Personally I don't really like mana rocks which don't give at least half the value back you put into them. So I would probably take the Mana Geode out and put Signets, a Fellwar Stone or even an Expedition Map in, seeing that you run Cabal Coffers + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth .
3 weeks ago
Hey, you're welcome and thanks for the upvote at my Krothuss deck :)
I'm also having a lot of fun with Krothuss, it's currently my go to casual deck. My version is very different and my intentions with these upgrade suggestions is not to make your version into mine, but to mention some cards that have been playing well for me while also on a budget. Just about all these suggestions are cards in the maybeboard and I'll suggest what cards could potentially be cut for them.
- Sol Ring --> Expedition Map
- Swiftfoot Boots --> Sculpting Steel
- Solemn Simulacrum --> Burnished Hart
Sol Ring is a staple powerful card for ramp and it could do more than Expedition Map for about the same price. Map doesn't really have a specific land that you want to search for. Solemn Simulacrum is basic land ramp that has interaction with Krothuss because it's a creature that ramps on ETB. Another nice thing about Solemn is when it dies you draw a card meaning that when attacking/copying Solemn they might die in combat which is fine since then you draw card(s).
Swiftfoot Boots has helpful effects not just for Krothuss, but also to give any creature you control haste for one mana so that it can attack the same turn it ETB to be copied by Krothuss. Reanimation is powerful, but if the reanimated creature doesn't have haste then you have to wait an entire cycle of opponent's turns before you can attack with reanimated creature + Krothuss which is slower.
If interested I'll continue in another comment with some sea monster upgrades to consider.
1 month ago
1 month ago
Oh sorry, I completely forgot to reply to your last message. I don't really have any more suggestions for you. I would've said Expedition Map if you were gonna go with Urza's Saga, but I think you're right about Urza's Saga not being a great fit here.
I think your deck is pretty solid right now, but I'm sure there may be a couple other cards out there that might help you. If I come across any more cards that I think would work for your deck, I'll be sure to let you know!
1 month ago
Also worth mentioning is that unlike karn lists I don’t run a lot of artifacts so its construct mode is pretty irrelevant too. It also only can find an amulet, which as stated earlier, doesn’t really do much for me. I’d have to add Expedition Map to the list to make it as useful as Ancient Stirrings, which isn’t nearly as bad of a draw later on in the game, since it can replace itself in the same turn it is used and doesn’t use up my land drop to do so.