Sudden Spoiling

Sudden Spoiling

Instant

Split second (As long as this spell is on the stack, players can't play spells or activated abilities that aren't mana abilities.)

Creatures target player controls become 0/2 and lose all abilities until end of turn.

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Set Rarity
Commander 2014 (C14) Rare
Commander 2013 (C13) Rare
Time Spiral (TSP) Rare

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Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

Sudden Spoiling occurrence in decks from the last year

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.03%

Black: 0.47%

Rakdos: 0.3%

Sudden Spoiling Discussion

Abzkaban on Queen Marchesa: Politics, Aikido, and Control

1 week ago

Seabody

Sudden Spoiling is a great fog effect and even shuts down creature based combos. I’ve won games because of it.

Seabody on Queen Marchesa: Politics, Aikido, and Control

1 week ago

Love the primer! Building my own based off this and some other lists. First revision will be pretty combat focused with Rite of the Raging Storm, Crown of Doom & War's Toll type effects combined with rattlesnake/pillowfort to attempt to keep opponents fighting among themselves. List is here:

https://archidekt.com/decks/355534#LongMaySheReign

Sideboard is strong considerations/over budget cards. Maybeboard consists of lesser considerations. Would love some guidance/criticism - there are just SO many options available.

Has anyone tested Sudden Spoiling in this deck? Seems like it could lead to some serious blowouts if cast at an opportune time.

ShaDoWz_6677 on Weatherlight Consultation *Primer*

2 weeks ago

ScionsStillLive Labman dies too easily. So you dont want him to die. i see the point behind not playing him. draw last card. opponent responds with something to (kill it even Sudden Spoiling does the trick.) and you lose the game.

Savaaage on Marquis De Chainer, Sadism 101

1 month ago

Profet93

Thanks for checking out the deck and for the comments. I greatly appreciate it! I'll start from the top:

Imp's Mischief - The card is great without question and can be game winning in the right situation, however, I think it's a much better fit in a Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed control deck, which can easily recur it every turn. As I have to rely on XHD being in the 99, the value of Imp's Mischief is lower for Chainer. I'll never tutor for it and end up having to draw into it. I've also had situations where it sat in my hand being unable to cast because people are casting non target sorceries/instants or taking non targetable extra turns XD. Another aspect is that the card became fairly infamous in my meta and people were aware of the tricks I could do with Imp's Mischief or Sudden Spoiling . When I was leaving 2-3 mana open it was fairly telegraphed. Over time I may add it back in as I love the tricky unexpected stuff in black (Imps, Sudden Spoiling, Darkness )

In regards to Grave Titan , the slot was contested by three cards. Originally I was running Sengir Autocrat , which in my opinion is superior to both Grave Titan and Wurmcoil Engine . I figured I needed some additional lifegain as I encountered some life issues in the previous game sessions. Wurmcoil Engine fits the similar niche as Grave Titan and with Nim Deathmantle Zombie clause, allows for Gravecrawler loops. Wurmcoil containing Lifelink was what made me choose it over Grave Titan. With Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Ashnod's Altar , we could make infinite deathtouch or lifelink tokens + infinite mana. I've spent most of the day today thinking about this slot and ultimately I think I'm going back to Sengir Autocrat . It has better synergy with Skullclamp and Razaketh, the Foulblooded AND most importantly breaks parity on Chainer/Altars/Aristocrats/ETC. We end up netting and 1 life as opposed to Grave Titan or Wurmcoil Engine .

About Artifact/Enchantment hate: I chose Oblivion Stone over Nevinyrral's Disk due to how many mana doubling cards I'm running. This allows me to play and active O-stone on the same turn, which is less telegraphed than NDisk. Also it doesn't suffer requiring to untap+survive a turn on a table to use, which makes it superior in my eyes. If I had to add another card it would be All Is Dust most likely cutting Sheoldred, Whispering One . Time will tell if this is required but at this state I'm unsure yet. In a dreamland we can 'theoretically' deal all perms with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Meteor Golem + Ashnod's Altar + Nim Deathmantle .

Necropotence is there :). I do like Syphon Mind but I'm running Night's Whisper + Sign in Blood as they're cheaper to use. I'd rather be developing/Controling board w/ 4cmc cards. Nights Whisper+Sign in Blood could be subbed for something else. I'll test em as is for now.

I'm agreeing with you on Font of Agonies the longer I have it in my deck. Anvil of Bogardan is a great suggestion.

The three lands that I removed could be detrimental but I'm not sure. I'll need to test it live, but I've been goldfishing for hours every day throughout the week. 30 lands seems fine with the recent minor rebuild.

theindigoeffect on Rakdos Massacre Wurm Combos

3 months ago

Aside from Massacre Wurm + Sudden Spoiling , does anyone know of any combos that would work in Rakdos? You get extra credit if the card is actually useful outside of just pumping the Wurm's damage / life loss.

LilMissWiz on Dragon Age (5-Color Dragons)

3 months ago

Hellkite Overlord and Scourge of the Throne are great dragons to add. I ran Cyclonic Rift and Sudden Spoiling in mine as board clears for being attacked or attacking. Descendants' Path is also a great card for tribal along with Urza's Incubator

TitaniumTP on K'rrick Kobain and his Monster Mash

3 months ago

Let's get down to business, shall we?

DELETE THIS

Venser's Journal , Mindcrank , Armillary Sphere , Dash Hopes , Doomblade, Street Wraith , Leshrac's Sigil ,

QUESTIONABLE

Noosegraf Mob , Phyrexian Reclamation , Kaya's Ghostform , Blood Tribute , Whip of Erebos , Armillary Sphere , Reiver Demon , Pestilence Demon , Magus of the Mirror , Endling , Bloodthirsty Aerialist

At first glance these are what I think you should delete and think about deleting.


COMBO TIME

I notice that you have combo potential with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed . The only 2 card combo with him is Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Triskelion . All other combos with him require 4 pieces.

  1. The man (zombie?) himself: Mikaeus, the Unhallowed

  2. Sac outlet - Viscera Seer , - Ashnod's Altar , - Carrion Feeder ,

  3. The Sacrifice (something with persist, or that can somehow remove the +1/+1 counter from Mikaeus, the Unhallowed ) - Lesser Masticore , - Putrid Goblin , - Skinrender if you put the 3 -1/-1 counters on itself each time it enters, - Puppeteer Clique , - Lingering Tormentor ,

  4. ALL THESE TRIGGERS - Bitter Ordeal for infinite exiling of decks, - Falkenrath Noble for infinite damage, - Vindictive Vampire for infinite damage, - Zulaport Cutthroat for infinite damage, - Vengeful Dead for infinite damage, only if sacrificed creature is a zombie, - Blood Artist for infinite damage, - Pitiless Plunderer for infinite mana, - Pawn of Ulamog for infinite colorless mana, - Deathgreeter for infinite life, - Smothering Abomination for infinite card draw,

MORE COMBO

You also have the 3 piece combo of

  1. Sanguine Bond
  2. Exquisite Blood
  3. Anything that either causes you to gain life, or an opponent to lose life - Leechridden Swamp , - Ebony Charm , - Death Cultist , - Nightmare's Thirst

I recommend using instant speed interaction for the 3rd piece of the combo, so you can respond to removal by winning

If you decide to follow The Way of The Combo, you should also add library searching effectz to help make sure you always find your pieces.


LIBRARY SEARCHIN EFFECTZ

Expedition Map for finding lands for ramp, or combo pieces if you go for the aforementioned Leechridden Swamp combo Scheming Symmetry , Behold the Beyond , Demonic Collusion , Diabolic Tutor , Final Parting , Mastermind's Acquisition , Doomsday , Demonic Collusion , Dark Petition

The more combo and storm heavy your deck is, the more search library cards you will want to add.

EXTORT OP

Basilica Screecher , Thrull Parasite , Syndicate Enforcer

Nothing much to add here, but extort is so broken in this deck. Extort will be extra powerful in storm builds.


Okay, it's Mana Time

Caged Sun

COOL LANDS

Castle Locthwain , swamp with benefits, Thespian's Stage , can become a copy of other dank lands like Temple of the False God and Cabal Stronghold , Crystal Vein , pop it on the turn where you're going to try and win, Westvale Abbey  Flip, potential wincon, Leechridden Swamp , potential combo piece and also fun to use with leftover mana, Bottomless Vault , probably sucks but you could use it in a storm deck, Memorial to Folly , Mortuary Mire , Temple of the False God , Myriad Landscape , ramp that looks like a land

Mana Rocks

Cryptolith Fragment  Flip probably not good, Thran Dynamo , super epic, Hedron Archive , Prismatic Lens , Fractured Powerstone , you know you want this for the planeschase ability, Sisay's Ring , Ur-Golem's Eye , Liliana of the Dark Realms , Nirkana Revenant , Paradise Plume , Magus of the Coffers , Black Market

For mana rocks you want the best bang for your buck, since you can just pay life instead of {B}. I like the mana rocks that cost {4} but tap for {2}, and the ones that cost {2} and tap for {1}. The more control heavy your deck is, the more rocks you want.

Ramp

Wayfarer's Bauble , Burnished Hart

Lots of Mana Fast

Cabal Ritual , Bubbling Muck , Spoils of Evil , Culling the Weak , Sacrifice , Dark Ritual , Songs of the Damned

Getting giant bursts of mana is good in any mono Black deck, but you should invest more heavily the more combo and storm themed your deck is, since you want to pop off in a single turn and cast 1,000 spells.

Investments

Basal Sliver , Blood Pet , Bog Witch , Overeager Apprentice , Basal Thrull , Priest of Yawgmoth , Blood Vassal , Soldevi Adnate

A lot of these cards that are single time use mana sources would be great in a storm deck where you would just build up your load until you bust damage all over the faces of those unfortunate enough to be within 50m of you. They're also good in reanimation decks, which could utilize Phyrexian Reclamation to keep getting them back.

Summary:

The more control heavy your deck is, the more mana rocks you want. If you're going for combos then you want more quick mana. The only land I'm gonna have to 100% recommend is Thespian's Stage . Keep in mind that the more nonbasic lands you have in your deck, the less useful cards like Crypt Ghast and Cabal Stronghold will be.


TRIBAL

Zombie Tribal

Corpse Harvester , library search, Cemetery Reaper , lord, Undead Warchief , epic lord, Josu Vess, Lich Knight , wincon, Endless Ranks of the Dead , wincon, Death Baron , lord, Liliana's Mastery , lord, Graveborn Muse , card draw, Zombie Master , protection, Graf Harvest , team evasion, Fleshbag Marauder , saccy, Phyrexian Delver , recovery, Cryptbreaker , card draw, Lord of the Accursed , lord, Shepherd of Rot , hurty everyone, Stronghold Assassin , funny removal, Loyal Subordinate , Liliana, Death's Majesty , potential finisher, Grave Titan , Open the Graves , board wipe protection, especially good if you're going all in on creature aggro, Curse of Disturbance , Awaken the Erstwhile , once you're in an advantageous position just cast this and watch your opponents cry, Tombstone Stairwell , this would be especially epic if you have cards to buff your boys, Risen Executioner , lord

Some cards that could be spicy in zombie tribal. Epic combos would be lords such as Cemetery Reaper and Lord of the Accursed , and fatties such as Army of the Damned and Josu Vess, Lich Knight . Having tons of zombies also combos with Pontiff of Blight . I think that Eldrazi Monument in a zombie build is nightmare fuel.

Vampire Tribal

Sanctum Seeker , Kalastria Highborn , Blade of the Bloodchief , Bloodlord of Vaasgoth , Malakir Bloodwitch , Bloodline Keeper  Flip, Gatekeeper of Malakir , Nirkana Revenant , Drana, Liberator of Malakir , Sadistic Skymarcher , Defiant Bloodlord , Yahenni, Undying Partisan , Butcher of Malakir , Cordial Vampire , Bloodtracker ,

If you decide vampire tribal is better, here are some options. I would only play cards like Blood Tribute if you're going vampire tribal, I don't think it's worth to play unless you can get more value than just chopping 1 player's life in half.

To Go with Your Creature Spam, Sir...

Dowsing Dagger  Flip, Mask of Memory , Necropolis Regent , Bloodforged Battle-Axe , Explorer's Scope , Throne of the God-Pharaoh , Whip of Erebos

Buff My Team!

Sword of the Paruns , Intimidation , Death Pit Offering , Eldrazi Monument , Obelisk of Urd

Summary:

The more of one tribe you have, the more synergy you have. Only include lords if you're all in on that tribe.


REMOVAL

Targeted Removal

Hero's Downfall , Vraska's Contempt , Murder , Murderous Rider , Noxious Gearhulk , Malicious Affliction , New Blood , Ruinous Path , Tendrils of Corruption , Bone Splinters , Liturgy of Blood

Epic Board Wipes

Decree of Pain , Crux of Fate , Kindred Dominance , Bontu's Last Reckoning , Do or Die , Hellfire , Necromantic Selection

Summary: Use more board wipes the more control heavy you want your deck to be. Try to choose targeted removal such that the end cost will only be {1} and some life, so that it will be as cheap as possible. This is especially important in storm builds. Since we play multiplayer quite a bit, you'll probably want to add extra board wipes, especially the ones that draw you cards or come bundled with reanimation.


Wow, I Hate Minorities

Wow, I hate tokens

Ritual of Soot , Force of Despair

Wow, Green is Cancer

Perish

Wow, I hate when other people play spells

Painful Quandary

Wow, I hate when other people attack me

No Mercy , Dread , Koskun Falls

Wow, I hate myself

Season of the Witch (okay, maybe not that much Revenge of Ravens )

Wow, I hate lifegain

Tainted Remedy , False Cure

Wow, I hate real board wipes

Sudden Spoiling , Mutilate , Languish , Massacre Girl , Golden Demise

Wow, I hate burst damage

Palace Siege , Polluted Bonds

Wow, I hate my opponents having creatures

Dictate of Erebos , Grave Pact , Butcher of Malakir

Wow, I hate this one person in particular

Curse of Vengeance , Trespasser's Curse , Curse of Fool's Wisdom


Lifegain

Profane Memento , Crypt Incursion , Vampiric Link , Loxodon Warhammer , Kokusho, the Evening Star , Cavalier of Night , Whip of Erebos

Protection

Rush of Vitality

Benefit from Death

Ogre Slumlord , Shadows of the Past

Cool Card Draw

Moonlight Bargain , Promise of Power , Succumb to Temptation , Ransack the Lab , Infernal Contract , Necrologia , Carnival of Souls , Grim Haruspex , Night's Whisper , Succumb to Temptation , Phyrexian Etchings , Cruel Bargain , Dark Deal , Foreboding Fruit , Live Fast , Painful Lesson , Necropotence

Add more card draw the more stormy you want your deck to be. Also try to add ones that will cost the least amount of mana if you take your commander's ability into account.

Card Draw Requiring Sacrifice

Altar's Reap , Costly Plunder , Morbid Curiosity , Bankrupt in Blood , Skulltap , Merciless Resolve

These will be better in decks where you're sure you'll have tons of creatures. So adding these into zombie tribal would probably be a good idea, since you have things like Army of the Damned and Josu Vess, Lich Knight that produce a million tokens.


Storm Build Cards

Aphotic Wisps , Cremate , Succumb to Temptation , Yawgmoth's Will , Ill-Gotten Gains , Priest of Forgotten Gods , Skirge Familiar , Rain of Filth , Dredge , Gravebind , Nighthaze , Street Wraith

The idea of a storm deck is to cast as many spells in one turn as possible, building up a fat storm counter to execute all who oppose us with our 3 finishers, which are Aetherflux Reservoir , Tendrils of Agony and perhaps Empty the Pits . You'll want lots of cheap spells that only cost {B} mana and replace themselves, such as Aphotic Wisps . One time use mana is also dank here, such as Dark Ritual and Cabal Ritual , and creatures like Basal Thrull and Soldevi Adnate .


Win Cons to think about

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