Painful Quandary
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Vintage Legal

Painful Quandary

Enchantment

Whenever an opponent casts a spell, that player loses 5 life unless he or she discards a card.

Somedutch on Obosh the Oddball

2 months ago

This deck looks mean with how much damage it can pump out in a hurry with that commander. One thought that immediately comes to mind that could be worth considering is Bloodchief Ascension Since it would benefit from your commander and would very quickly end games. One other could be Painful Quandary if you're looking to really shut things down with your commander. Both pretty expensive and pretty mean though, so up to you on if you think they might be worth it.

Flagellum on Need help deciding on a …

4 months ago

TheoryCrafter Yeah I see the point about Mogis. It opens the doors for more draw as well as more pain. Specifically draw pain like Underworld Dreams, Spiteful Visions, Fate Unraveler etc. which will work wonders with Wheel of Fortune, Reforge the Soul and Dark Deal which I would run anyways or just against any slap happy blue deck. Just sucks that Painful Quandary, Polluted Bonds and Bloodchief Ascension have risen. Even my good ole friend from my Nekusaur days Kederekt Parasite is up to $8ish now lol.

As far as Dina goes, I originally built her with an incremental life gain build but I started retooling it more towards the aristocrat support build after realizing that 4 mana for a 1 life every upkeep trigger is not worth the spot. I see the value of pests/creature death triggers especially in the event of a board wipe.

Guerric on Honey, Listen, I Can Explain

5 months ago

This deck looks fun. I love decks built around tribes and permanent types, and I love the flavorful concepts throughout. It's also fun to see cards that aren't technically cures but play like them included (ex. Painful Quandary.

ajensen6 on Ebb and Flow (Seizan EDH)

6 months ago

Suggestions Punish people for playing spells: Painful Quandary,

Lifegain: Noticed you'll be paying lots of life for card draw and some other effects. Having a few ways to recoup the life might extend your mid-long game. Shadowspear, Whip of Erebos

Ramp: Crypt Ghast (will go in every black deck you make, worth the $10)

Graveyard Hate: Especially important in control decks where you'll be blowing up the board and wheeling people's hands. Leyline of the Void, Tymaret, Chosen from Death, Withered Wretch, Soul-Guide Lantern

Generic removal: Feed the Swarm, Oubliette If you want to be really mean: Infernal Darkness

Waste Not

BlackGtitan on Horror Creeping in the Shadows

6 months ago

Thanks for the suggestion Brian-123 ! All fantastic suggestions and all cards I have in my binders/ collection and most that I cut, or had out when building, with reasoning.

So this is what I'm thinking:

  1. Both Traumatize and Fleet Swallower are both brutal cards but due to mana cost I held off on them for cheaper options to have more access to spells like Fractured Sanity and Tasha's Hideous Laughter Mill was always more of a way to fill the graveyard while still having mana to play other cards at the same time, mainly just to speed up.

  2. I only have one copy of Painful Quandary and it's currently being used in another deck, but I agree would work in here ... but what to swap for it?

  3. Torment of Hailfire and Exsanguinate are glorious cards, that I use in many decks and have copies to play for this deck but what I feel is the mana production and deck is just not optimized to take full advantage of them correctly at this time, thus they sit for the time being, which leads me to my next point...

  4. Nyx Lotus sat on my table and I stared at it.... stared hard at it, thinking if I could a. Take full advantage of it and b. Want to spend 4 mana to have it come in tapped and risk having a board wipe that makes it a dead rock.

  5. Clone Legion and Trailblazer's Boots are definitely on the radar!

  6. Finally, I have to agree with Grimoire of the Dead being good, but slow and I worry as I work closer to graveyard hate that it might not be as effective.

Wow! Lmao thanks again for everything and for making my brain work.

Brian-123 on Horror Creeping in the Shadows

6 months ago

another mill half your deck card= Traumatize & Fleet Swallower

Painful Quandary= is a nasty card to help force discard and deal 5 damage

Trailblazer's Boots=for unblockable, but I figured Whispersilk Cloak was for the protection

Exsanguinate for some massive damage A must in any commander deck for a big mana rock when you need it Nyx Lotus

Torment of Hailfire is one of my favorite cards

Clone Legion yes i know heavy on the mana but its commander and games stretch. its fun to us if your opponent has a big field, you can copy any field even your own hense helping with tokens

Grimoire of the Dead= i know it might be slow

Brian-123 on Ferngully (Help Wanted!)

7 months ago

Maybe good here for making fairies and that life destruction, I suggest these cards (ps I don"t need oppinion from god tier players who got $100 to blow on fricken cards)

Door of Destinies Exsanguinate Exsanguinate Torment of Hailfire Haunting Voyage Painful Quandary Clone Legion Predators' Hour Shark Typhoon

some powerful cards in my oppinion I use and have many in my commander decks maybe they might help greatly in this deck I don't know

DawnsRayofLight on Tergrid Turbo

8 months ago

32 lands seems very on the low end. I would run at least 34 NOT including Agadeem and the other flip land. I would make those are all swamps. Witch's Cottage is also good. Be careful on the utility lands, I found myself needing to drop the land destruction lands for more swamps because I kept getting colourless land hands and couldn't cast anything.

Some card suggestions:

Painful Quandary

Liliana Vess: helps with discard and tutoring

Yawgmoth, Thran Physician for proliferating and other shennanigans

Karn Liberated and Ugin, the Ineffable for some permanent removal

Living Death could be funny

Burglar Rat: another discard on a stick

K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth: can help with ramp, also gets to be a big pain if left alone

Some cards I am iffy on

Cabal Ritual: I am not big on the dark ritual type cards in EDH unless you're running all of them and playing some crazy storm list or what have you.

Skullclamp: not enough targets

That is all I can think of right now, I may be able to think of something after eating.

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