Painful Quandary

Enchantment

Whenever an opponent casts a spell, that player loses 5 life unless he or she discards a card.

Discussion (50)

DemonDragonJ on The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Raze

3 weeks ago

I have replaced Exquisite Blood with Bloodchief Ascension , which reduced the average converted mana cost of this deck from 3.70 to 3.63, which is very nice, and my primary reason for making that replacement was that EB is very expensive in terms of money, but BA is, as well; I also contemplated Painful Quandary , but that card is also expensive, so, no matter which card I choose, I will need to spend a great amount of money.

zAzen7977 on TINY PUNISHER - Discard/Stax [cEDH Primer Update]

1 month ago

Hey DrValium! Glad you like the deck, thanks!!

No I hadn’t considered Illusionist's Bracers or Wound Reflection , but these are interesting suggestions!

The Bracers can potentially double Tinybone’s damage potential. My only complaint is that it’s expensive at 5 total mana to get it going. I could have used that mana to get a shot in with Tinybones before he’s removed. But at least the Bracers stick around if I lose Tinybones and I can re-attach it.

Reflection is interesting too, but it’s also expensive mana-wise and hurts me with Ad Nauseam and Dark Confidant . It would double my damage output with Tinybones and other cards like Painful Quandary and Professor Onyx .

I’ll do some testing and see if they are worth the mana investment. Do you have any suggestions for cards to swap for the above, or any further insight? :)

zAzen7977 on TINY PUNISHER - Discard/Stax [cEDH Primer Update]

1 month ago

Hey MrNoodlesworth, I just picked up a Professor Onyx , I’m going to give her a shot. Instead of dropping Soul-Guide Lantern , I was contemplating dropping Painful Quandary because lately I’ve drawn it and been unable to cast it, but it has helped in the past. I’m hesitant to add Onyx (6CMC) without dropping another high CMC card (like you said, it’s a big hit with Ad Naus). The Lantern is a cheap one-sided 2-for-1 graveyard hater/card-drawer and brings down CMC, so I don’t really want to cut it. What are your thoughts about that?

Anyone else have any experience with Onyx?

ObIviom on Endrekh Sahr

2 months ago

Well, a good classic card for storm decks is Aetherflux Reservoir and you aren't running a Bolas's Citadel which imo is too good to pass up. Also some bombs in this deck is Endless Cockroaches , Cloudstone Curio , Ayara, First of Locthwain and Priest of Gix . Demon's Disciple and Plaguecrafter are also good cards, can't have too many Fleshbag Marauder effects.

I also enjoyed playing Painful Quandary , Smokestack , Descent into Madness Bitterblossom and Contamination when I built Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder and Tergrid, God of Fright  ^Flip would probably fit here too.

This commander I used as a sac stax deck with a storm win con, Exsanguinate is another win con you can use for this deck.

Good luck, hope your play group keeps playing with you haha

king-saproling on Oloro Chair Bears

3 months ago

You might like these: Marauding Blight-Priest , Cliffhaven Vampire , Epicure of Blood , Shabraz, the Skyshark , Drogskol Reaver , Psychosis Crawler , Suture Priest , Polluted Bonds , Painful Quandary , Soul Warden , Soul's Attendant , Carnival of Souls , Curse of Fool's Wisdom , Bontu's Monument , Thran Turbine , Nyx-Fleece Ram

MalGaming on Tergrid Discard

3 months ago

Painful Quandary has been in the deck for a while, I just forgot to change the decklist.
Vindictive Lich or Mindslicer may be a good add to go with the sacrifice outlets I do have.
Chains of Mephistopheles is already on the maybe board but I'm not too sure about adding it.
Mastermind's Acquisition will be added to the maybe board though its just another 4cmc tutor.
The rest are good suggestions but I think they may lean to heavily into sacrifice. I would probably have to give up other win combos to put them in the deck.
Thanks for the good suggestions DawnsRayofLight

DawnsRayofLight on Tergrid Discard

3 months ago

Vindictive Lich : I mean, enough said, same for Mindslicer

Liliana, Heretical Healer  ^Flip: another discarding Lily that can reanimate

Mastermind's Acquisition : I think every EDH list running black should have this card. you now have a 15 card board open to you.

I run Oppression and Painful Quandary in my Death Taxes list. If you can swing it (I am only guessing you can because of imperial seal) Chains of Mephistopheles

Killing Wave is another good sac spell, Grave Pact and Dictate of Erebos as well

seshiro_of_the_orochi on Tergrid, Goddess of Salt

4 months ago

Holy Broly, this is even more terrible than I had imagined. Some other cards to consider:

Painful Quandary is simply beyond obnoxious here. The Eldest Reborn is similarly nasty. Might I suggest Grave Betrayal for when Tegrid isn't around? Merciless Executioner and Syphon Flesh are more sac-effects. What's more, maybe Grave Pact , Dictate of Erebos and maybe Butcher of Malakir . Oh, and in case you want to play the nastiest boardwipe ever: Torment of Hailfire .