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Exile target creature or planeswalker. You gain 2 life.
Vraska's Contempt Discussion
5 days ago
I'd get an
in a WB deck like this. I agree with King Saproling on
since it helps Revel in the Riches as well.
is a card you can't go wrong with in aristocrats. They have some good suggestions in that comment. I'd add
Open the Graves
to that list as well of things to at least consider.
Also, get Ashnod's Altar and/or Phyrexian Altar . Now you can kill things on command and get mana instead of spending it to allow the sacrifice. No restrictions either.
6 days ago
Alright. After looking through, I have a few ideas. 1. Instead of stealing other’s artifacts for 4+ mana, perhaps running things like Abrade , Artifact Possession , Copy Artifact , or Bedevil to either create copies of other’s artifacts, or destroy them with more options than what you currently have.
- Mana fixing Drowned Catacomb , Dragonskull Summit , Watery Grave , Command Tower , Arcane Signet , Grixis Obelisk, and Grixis Panorama would all help in your ability to cast Bolas on curve.
- Holding off the other players.
- Creatures. Zahid, Djinn of the Lamp , Wall of Stone , Norritt , Chainwhip Cyclops , and Vraska's Finisher are all bad cards. I suggest cards like Nicol Bolas, the Ravager Flip, Sheoldred, Whispering One , Notion Thief , Archfiend of Depravity , and Massacre Girl could be more beneficial than the current ones you have.
1 week ago
2 weeks ago
Hey Sorin_Markov_1947, the Foulmire Knight and Murderous Rider are really just quick replacements I popped in to convert the deck from old Standard to current standard. There was a few things that had to come out. I do like Murderous Rider a lot though, as it kinda replaced Vraska's Contempt . Not sure what other Zombie's would be good. I agree that Relentless Advance is expensive, but it can be a big surprise to the opponent sometimes, like they think they have a few more turns before the lifelink from Dreadhorde Invasion kicks in and BAM, lol. Feel free to suggest other cards :)
2 weeks ago
Vraska's Contempt and Alela, Artful Provocateur and Enter the God-Eternals seem like useful cards! I really, really wish I could use Baral, Chief of Compliance ! Now that's an awesome wizard card! Tyrant's Scorn and Oath of Kaya seem very useful too!
2 weeks ago
I'm down for that.
Concerning counterspells, a lot of my opinions of counterspells in modern are shaped by the old meta of Humans and Phoenix. Phoenix ate the hammer and Humans has basically died. Looking at the metagame, counterspells look really good right now. So they are probably as good as you say and my reluctance is an artifact of being out-of-touch with the meta.
I do want to say that counterspells are a terrible way to answer creatures. Creature-heavy decks tend to rely on Aether Vial and Cavern of Souls . Again, Humans is basically gone, so you can actually mana leak creatures again, but I'm still wary of the lingering anti-countermagic cards. Spell Snaring a Tarmogoyf , Stoneforge Mystic , or Eidolon of the Great Revel are among the best feelings in modern. Especially Eidolon. Historically I've loved Terminate ; these days Dreadbore is decent.
Targeted discard I can swing over and agree. If you're trying to set up to slam Bolas, discard spells look a lot better.
I still disagree on cantrips. They are good precisely because you have diversity in your answers. You will invariably need to find a particular card or card type. If you need to kill a Tarmogoyf, then you want to use your cantrips to find Fatal Push and avoid hitting, say, Inquisition of Kozilek or Mana Leak when it's already too late. Opt is very lackluster in general. I'd play Serum Visions instead. It feels so much better to cast. Sorcery-speed is fine; especially if you already have Inquisition and Thoughtseize.
I still think Vraska's Contempt is standard crap. It seems very very mediocre vs Jund. Against Jund, efficiency is where you can stay ahead. That matchup is won by trading favorably early (spell snare the Wrenn and Six , bolt the Bob, push the Scooze, mana leak the Liliana), and then pulling way ahead with Snapcaster Mage , Kolaghan's Command , Cryptic Command , and planeswalkers. Vraska's Contempt is so mana-inefficient. And it doesn't do anything meaningfully better than Lightning Bolt .
On the flip side, there are so many problems with Vraska's Contempt vs Tron, and that approach to Tron as a whole. Without testing the matchup, I expect that your Tron matchup is nearly unwinnable in game 1. Even if you can counter the planeswalkers, they will get you with Ulamog or Wurmcoil. In the long run, they almost always have more threats than you have answers. I have found that keeping them off of tron is the best way to beat them, but it's never better than 50/50.
Going 14 turns is fine, but the big mana decks love to feast on this style of deck. Especially Amulet Titan and Tron. Amulet Titan can fetch Cavern of Souls to push Titans through, and once the chain starts it's almost impossible to keep up with removal spells.
2 weeks ago
So, I've played a lot of Grixis, and I am very supportive of Bolas in Grixis.
I have a few inputs. First, you have a lot of counterspells. I've had very good luck by playing a little heavier on the removal in game 1 and then packing more counterspells in the sideboard for when you want them. There are too many matchups where counterspells are dead. Humans is the biggest offender, but it has fallen off in popularity. You can maybe get away with the counterspells now, but the meta has been very hostile to them for a long time.
I don't like your particular split of counterspells. You should want to counter Primeval Titan , Reality Smasher , Wurmcoil Engine . Cryptic Command is the best for doing this. I like 3 copies in a grixis control deck, but 4 might be fine in your list.
I'm very on the fence about whether I like Force of Negation . I find myself casting it for 3 mana almost always, and I don't exactly enjoy it even when I pitch to cast it for free. I almost want like 2 Spell Snare , 3 Mana Leak , and 3 Cryptic Command in the main with 2 Countersquall and 2 Dispel or Disdainful Stroke in the board.
So, the thing with grixis and hard control is that we don't have anything like Assassin's Trophy or Detention Sphere . We can't deal with any permanent. I solve this by playing tempo. Tasigur, the Golden Fang is, in my opinion, one of the best cards in Grixis. By playing an early Tasigur, trading for a few turns, and then going Bolt-Snap-Bolt on their endstep into swinging with Tasigur, Snap, and Tar Pit, you can close games out of nowhere. Of course, this isn't the same hard control as you initially set out to play.
Inquisition of Kozilek and Thoughtseize are pretty bad in hard control. They're crappy topdecks and tempo-negative. I totally agree that they're powerful and probably make the deck better, but there's merit to adjusting the deck to support them better.
I advocate for cantrips. Drawing what you want is really helpful. I'm highly opposed to Vraska's Contempt .
Sorry if this is rambly. I'm writing it in a really distracting environment.
2 weeks ago
I think the extra mana for Vraska's Contempt isn't worth the 2 life that it offers. Hero's Downfall is the better instant-speed option, and Dreadbore is the most mana-efficient way to deal with both creatures and PWs in grixis colors. I'd even think about cutting a spell snare for a second copy since T3feri shuts down this list's counterspells pretty hard. I do realize that Bolas also takes care of walkers, but you don't want UW to sit out there gaining value over a few turns before you can answer it. I'd also think about bringing in some sort of cheaper card advantage/cantrips (before Jace comes down essentially) to help find the right half of your deck when you need it (counters when you're ahead, removal when you're behind), as well as to use mana more efficiently. It does seem like an interesting concept. Let us know how it works out for you!
Vraska's Contempt occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.87%
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