|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Magic Game Night (GNT)||Uncommon|
|Masters 25 (A25)||None|
|Battle for Zendikar (BFZ)||Uncommon|
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Creature — Human Rogue Ally
Whenever Zulaport Cutthroat or another creature you control dies, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
|Have (3)||, rockleemyhero , PTsmitty|
|Want (6)||timido , skylinerees , PepperJack , HighChieftain , rachlm214 , Mythdefy|
Zulaport Cutthroat Discussion
3 days ago
interesting on Marionette master, i actually wanted to splash black because of underhanded design, as soon as any of your group draw cards provide 40+ treasures (which is really easy) everyone dies. and zur can easily tutor for it.
imo, revel in riches and expropriate are kinda the weak links in the deck, more often than not i don't think an extra turn from expropriate will be required (helpful, but not required) and revel is too slow, a miss timed vandalblast, bane of progress, merciless eviction, cyc rift, or cleansing nova can stop it.
that said, i have hundreds of games played with my smothering tithe games at a few LGSs and couple things i've found, the wheels tend to be worse than good (except for windfall) so echos of eon, whispering madness, jace's archivist, etc. it's the easiest way to whiff on your combo chain, if you don't draw the next group draw in those 7 cards you end up stuck, so i ended up gutting all of my wheels out of the deck except for windfall. on the other hand, spell recursion cards end up as another combo enabler, since you needed one to start off anyways, you'll have one in the grave to recast, so Mission Briefing and Flood of Recollection or Archeomancer becomes a "second copy" of a group draw spell instead to keep your combo going. but because i went that route, i had to cut Rest in Peace, but since you sorta have access to leyline of the void, it might be worth the trade out.
i've made a pretty big deck list change recently, i don't know if you saw. so you may want to check out the new list to see if anything catches your eye.
as far as building it on paper? the deck is strong, but it can also be hit or miss, and it's definitely weak to aggro, so it might not be too strong for your play group than you think. i know i lose my fair share of games if i never get a draw spell or tutor to hand.
if you want a funny/sneaky tech for winning with treasures though. March of the Machines + Pitiless Plunderer + Zulaport Cutthroat and friends will instantly win the game if no one has an interaction.
3 days ago
I get the force sacrifice theme but do not really see many creatures YOU would want to sacrifice. I count 4 creatures who once they enter I would be happy to let die to trigger something or force sacrifice (WS, VE, SD, and G). This is not counting Sakura-Tribe Elder, co. because I assume you will want to sack them to their own effect most time.
Creatures who are happy to die and come back or create tokens to be sacrificed are: Reassembling Skeleton , Bloodsoaked Champion , Squee, the Immortal , Open the Graves , Xathrid Necromancer , Overseer of the Damned , etc. all give you extra bodies to sacrifice while keeping your enablers free.
I am surprised to see so little graveyard recursion either, some to consider: Phyrexian Reclamation , Palace Siege , Animate Dead , Whisper, Blood Liturgist , Phyrexian Delver , etc. are good for getting back killed creatures or reanimating high-CMC ones (@ 4.03 that is pretty HIGH).
For ramp I would add in more creatures who self-sacrifice to grab basics (and add more basics in place of tap lands) to kill 2-birds with one stone. Burnished Hart , Wild-Field Scarecrow , Dawntreader Elk , Pilgrim's Eye , Skittering Surveyor , and of course Solemn Simulacrum .
Such a theme screams to have more aristocrat value pieces added: Zulaport Cutthroat , Poison-Tip Archer , Fecundity , Outpost Siege , Harvester of Souls , and Skullclamp , etc. all make every death benefit you that much more.
You don't seem to be playing any counter spells, even for protection with such high-costed creatures, I would add more via Heroic Intervention , Mizzium Skin , Wrap in Vigor , Undying Evil , etc. I like Kaya's Ghostform but it telegraphs to opponents that this will need to be killed 2x, and a truce may be made to ensure Sheoldred dies. One of the above is "sneakier."
4 days ago
Ok, I found a Cruel Celebrant in my box, gonna use this as an additional Zulaport Cutthroat . Probably gonna cut Phyrexian Vault for him, might cut Infernal Offering for a Vindicate . I do rather like Batterskull in the deck.
4 days ago
Endrobot, oh my god Reassembling Skeleton + Pitiless Plunderer is a combo with Teysa out! That with a Zulaport Cutthroat or a Blood Artist thats a win! omg im putting them back in mine! hey, would you mind upvoting at least a couple of my decks? i tried upvoting this last night and for whatever reason it wouldn't show up. i dont know why it wouldnt go from 3 upvotes to 4.
4 days ago
Thanks for the feedback!
4 days ago
You'll probably want Zulaport Cutthroat for more redundancy. Also, you may want more ways to deal with a variety of different kinds of hate cards it seems like you could be shut down by hard graveyard hate like Rest in Peace or Leyline of the Void . Cards like Vindicate and Utter End can help you avoid that situation.
4 days ago
WUBRG87 Last thing I'd want is to sculpt your deck into something that doesn't feel like yours(!) - I love EDH's lack of homogeneity. Happy to give you my 2 cents with the direction I'd be thinking of from here though and with not too bad of a budget...
More of a sacrifice direction that isn't 'aristocrats'; add another altar ( Phyrexian Altar or Altar of Dementia ), maybe switch Dark Ritual for Culling the Weak - then you would have a good level of sac outlets to have some heavy hitters like Gray Merchant of Asphodel and Kokusho, the Evening Star replace Noble/Zula/Buccaneer. It's a bit contradictory adding sac outlets and removing aristocrats I know but I think the aristocrats make better use of volume (like tokens) and our boy Chainer is better off packing more value into a big recur-able punch.
If it were me, I'd be thinking:
- Falkenrath Noble
- Zulaport Cutthroat
- Glint-Horn Buccaneer
- Charmbreaker Devils
- Corpse Augur (switch for Disciple as another sac outlet)
- Scheming Symmetry (switch for Intent)
- Dark Ritual (switch for CtW)
- Burning Vengeance (Warstorm Surge and Flayer do it better, or drop Warstorm if you wanted to lower the overall CMC)
- 1 of Vampiric Rites , Cathartic Reunion or Underworld Connections (I think there's enough card selection that all 3 of these aren't necessary. Depends if you like the speed or reusability as to which)
- OK I'm stuck on the last one just now!! Maybe Stitcher's Supplier , but then I'd maybe want the Altar of Dementia instead... I'd probably end up saying Dreadbore because sorcery speed. That way Mausoleum Secrets -ing for your Bedevil is essentially your second instant speed spot removal for Planeswalkers
Also, to your point about the 'Compet-o-meter', I'd say the impact will be from the system rating Zula/Noble highly because of combo involvement in decks that revolve around them and the Buccaneer showing up in Nekusar, the Mindrazer lists, which tend to be pretty savage!, rather than necessarily your changes being significantly worse one-for-one. I actually really like Embodiment of Agonies in this, it's cheap and can be a massive beatstick pretty easily.
5 days ago
BS-T, hey yeah. Thank you! I sort of agree with the aristocratic creatures in here. it's not like creature sacrifice is this decks main focus, so im not getting optimal usage out of them. They're more for synergies with Mikaeus and a sac outlet and like you said: theyre effect hits all opponents.If i were to try to cut them, have any suggestions as to what to put it in place of them? i pulled Glint-Horn Buccaneer , Zulaport Cutthroat and Falkenrath Noble for Embodiment of Agonies , Diabolic Tutor and Desecrated Tomb and the competitive meter went down nearly 20%. not that the competitive meter is any reliable source to go on, but still. any ideas?
Zulaport Cutthroat occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.06%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.1%
WB (Orzhov): 1.31%