Puppeteer Clique

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Vintage Legal

Puppeteer Clique

Creature — Faerie Wizard

Flying

When Puppeteer Clique enters the battlefield, put target creature card from an opponent's graveyard onto the battlefield under your control. It gains haste. At the beginning of your next end step, exile it.

Persist (When this creature dies, if it had no -1/-1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a -1/-1 counter on it.)

IHATENAMES on Meren, currently

2 months ago

Ideas:

Demon of Dark Schemes reanimation and a boardwipe

Any number of sac ramp creatures. A few examples Neverwinter Dryad Diligent Farmhand

Fog on a creature Spore Frog

Dread Return reanimation

Free sac outlet on cheap creatures Viscera Seer Carrion Feeder

Puppeteer Clique reanimation of an opponents threat (also works with persist combos if you choose to do that)

Midnight Reaper Grim Haruspex card draw upon death of a creature Liliana's Standard Bearer situational card draw

Mindslicer hate on blue players. Everyone discard their hand.

Mausoleum Secrets instant speed tutor

Victimize sac a creature return 2. Very good reanimation

For a few additional ideas take a look at My golgari deck it has a lifegain theme that won't translate but many off the cards beyond that might be good includes.

DawnsRayofLight on But, it's no sacrifice No sacrifice

2 months ago

I mean, it seems strong. It should do rather well, the only worry I see is how it will do against

1) very strong aggro based decks like Isshin, Two Heavens as One, Jetmir, Nexus of Revels, and Godo, Bandit Warlord--> board wipes should help keep these under control to an extent, and fortunately board wipes work with your strategy.

2) Combo decks--> these can be trickier as turbo decks can go off quick and other combo decks can have infinite life strategies. (though I think your commander gets around that, I think the life loss he triggers is counted as commander damage, someone correct me if I am wrong)

and

3) games that go too late: I can see a deck like this running out of steam

Lurrus is a helpful piece to the list but it may be worth considering dropping the companion requirement after testing to relieve yourself of the restriction which gives you access to more cards that I think would honestly make the deck stronger. (combos like sac outlet + Karmic Guide + Reveillark for infinite sac loops, Mikaeus, the Unhallowed (especially with Putrid Goblin and Puppeteer Clique with a sac outlet for another loop), one of my favorite things to do back in the days of zombie pod was Geralf's Messenger + Restoration Angel)

DawnsRayofLight on Graveyard Shift

2 months ago

It may seem janky, but many of the sagas work well in Muldrotha

Phyrexian Scriptures

The Cruelty of Gix

The Phasing of Zhalfir

2 of the above are recurring board wipes

Perpetual Timepiece for protection and more mill

Hermit Druid can help the turbo aspect of the deck, especially if you play Thassa's Oracle and related cards

Jeweled Lotus Is helpful for casting/recasting Muldrotha

Some other combos you could consider:

Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Melira, Sylvok Outcast combo well with persist creatures like River Kelpie, Woodfall Primus, Glen Elendra Archmage, Putrid Goblin, and Puppeteer Clique as infinite sac targets.

Melira also works with Devoted Druid for infinite mana

Mikaeus also combos with Walking Ballista (and a sac outlet) or Triskelion

Walking Ballista is a good outlet for infinite mana as is Finale of Devastation

Brissan on Wilsons wilderness

3 months ago

Looks pretty good for a first time deck! Something to keep in mind as you get feedback - EDH decks can be very personal, and playing at all sorts of power levels and competition is valid. Take this feedback with a grain of salt, the important thing is to play with the cards you like for the experience you enjoy. MTG (especially EDH) is a complicated game and there isn't any one strictly correct way to make an EDH deck, or one approach to the game.

tl;dr you do you!

Okay so IMO:

-You've got about 14x ramp (mana increasing) cards and 36x lands, which IMO is a lot of ramp, although to be fair you do have some big creatures to play. Your mileage may vary with how consistent your lands are in your opening hand and whether you get enough ramp to offset the slightly higher chances of being mana starved (also influenced by the mulligan policy of whoever you play with). I prefer 38 lands, and around 8-10x ramp so if it were me I would drop a few ramp cards for extra lands, but that's a personal preference. I don't have experience with running that ratio of ramp vs lands, so if that works for you then more power to you

-The mana pie inner ring shows your mana base of your lands is 50% black and 50% green, but the outer ring shows you have proportionally more green cards, so it's best to re-balance your Swamps and Forests to match.

-You have a good amount of interaction in my opinion (cards that let you destroy opponent's cards or otherwise mess with them), although you could afford to drop 1-2 board wipes (cards that destroy all creatures/etc on the battlefield) if you want to include other cards IMO

-You have a decent amount of card draw but could benefit from adding a few more cards that let you draw more than once. I'd recommend some of these as cheap options that give repeated draw:

-Your game plan seams to be mostly an aristocrat strategy (sacrificing your own creatures for value), also big creatures and power/toughness pumping. You have a good amount of creature/token generation and cards that let you sacrifice things, but you could add a few more effects that benefit you when your creatures die along the lines of Blood Artist. Some cheap ones include

-To fit in those above 2 categories, there are some cards that although powerful don't synergize as much with the common mechanics of your deck as a whole (generating tokens, sacrificing creatures, pumping your army). If you'd like more deck synergy, consider cutting these cards

  • Living Death in my opinion you don't have enough cards that fill up your graveyard to justify an expensive mass reanimate (returning creatures from GY to battlefield)
  • Burakos, Party Leader: Even with Maskwood Nexus and a board full of tokens to make all creature types, the max party size is still 4, so even in a perfect situation you won't be getting a lot of value out of this card
  • These three are all powerful and dont clash with your strategy, but also don't synergize a lot:
  • Elder Brain
  • Froghemoth
  • Puppeteer Clique

Again though, take all this as my own opinion and not a dictation. This deck is your own and there's nothing wrong with playing cards you like instead of trying to optimize every card slot. Overall this is much better constructed than the piles of random stuff I started playing EDH with!

MeneerDutchy on Henzie “The Toolman” Taylor ETB

4 months ago

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Ca1m_down on BlitzKrieg

6 months ago

Hey, cool list. I think there are a couple of different ways of building Henzie and I feel like you have a couple of different ideas going on here. Here are my thoughts on the different themes you can focus on that synergize with Henzie's abilities:

Cost reduction (making big impactful creature cost as little as possible to cast multiple in a turn every turn) Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma, Nylea, Keen-Eyed, Cloud Key, The Immortal Sun, Marauding Raptor, Heartless Summoning, Krosan Drover, Goblin Anarchomancer, Semblance Anvil

"Blink" (lots of undying, persist, and plenty of "Feign Death" effects to maximize etb/dies triggers and keep the creatures after blitz) Cauldron of Souls, Conjurer's Closet, Kaya's Ghostform, Supernatural Stamina, Blood for Bones, Undying Malice, Minion's Return, Demonic Gifts, Abnormal Endurance, Unholy Indenture, Return to Action, Fake Your Own Death, Flayer of the Hatebound, Mikaeus, the Unhallowed, Puppeteer Clique, Woodfall Primus, Murderous Redcap, Faceless Butcher

Value Town (maximize card advantage, keep the cards flowing, recursion, keep non-creature count low) Guardian Project, The Great Henge, Greater Good, Lifeblood Hydra, Demonlord Belzenlok, Gorex, the Tombshell, Deadwood Treefolk, Acolyte of Affliction, Evolutionary Leap

I think doing a combination of these three things is solid, but I'd recommend focusing on one and trying to keep the game plan somewhat focused. My brew leans towards Value Town.

Things in your current list that I'm a little skeptical of:

Sundial of the Infinite I think since Henzie is only giving us a small mana discount, this would just be used as a weird "your creatures have haste". I think you often want to take advantage of the "when this dies, draw" rather than 1+ mana cost reduction.

Deathreap Ritual This doesn't trigger if your creatures are dying in your end step to blitz, creatures need to die before the end step for the Ritual trigger to go on the stack. Even if that wasn't the case, I feel like it's better in decks where you're the one making sure it's triggering on each of your opponents turns. What Henzie is doing doesn't really help with doing that. I feel like Moldervine Reclamation would be similar in concept, but more synergistic once the deck is going (but I also don't think it's worth an inclusion).

Living Death How are you filling your yard? Henzie doesn't get cards into your yard very quickly. I think the is a card that fits better in decks that are doing plenty of looting and self milling. It's very likely the other graveyard players will benefit more than you when you cast this.

Most of your creatures that are less than 4 cmc don't seem like they do enough with Henzie to take a slot. I think you'd be better off if your CMC<4 mana stuff was non-creatures that ramp and/or setup for your game plan. I can understand the sac outlet ones if you're really taking advantage of the instant speed aspect, but most of the time you're having to sac end of turn anyway, so I think it'd be better to take advantage of the better payoff of the non-creature sac outlets (like Evo Leap, Vampiric Rites, the various Altars, Greater Good, etc.) As far as mana dorks, I feel like 2 mana ramp spells will help more in the long run. I don't think Henzie is powerful enough of a turn 2 play to risk losing mana sources to pings and/or wraths.

All that being said, it's great seeing other peoples takes on Henzie. I've certainly gained a bunch from reading your comment on my decklist and thinking critically about yours. I'll try and keep my list updated as I play it more. It's been a blast so far. If I didn't already have a black based "blink" deck I think I'd probably lean Henzie towards that strat. :)

Elf0491 on

7 months ago

Persist is really good with Mikaeus. Not a lot of great options in mono-black, but definitely check out Cauldron of Souls and Puppeteer Clique.

Gidgetimer on Custom commander Sewer Slime

8 months ago

To address your general speed problem, you are running 33 lands and 6 ramp with an average CMC of 3.57. This is entirely too mana light in my opinion. In my Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons deck I also run 33 lands, but have 11 ramp and an average CMC of 3.10. The ramp that I run that isn't in here is: Birds of Paradise, Devoted Druid, Llanowar Elves, Golgari Signet, Three Visits, Nature's Lore, and Wild Growth. Farseek always puts the land in tapped, so I run Three Visits and Nature's Lore over it since they grab the same duals. I'm not sure why I don't have STE in my list, though it runs well enough that I am not looking for more ramp. Since your average CMC is higher you may want to go with 13 ramp and just keep the ones you have and add all 5 of the additions.

To help with having sac fodder you are going to want creatures that recur themselves. You already have Reassembling Skeleton, but undying and persist would also let you recycle creatures for multiple activations. Puppeteer Clique, Rendclaw Trow, Woodfall Primus, Young Wolf, Strangleroot Geist, Geralf's Messenger, and Butcher Ghoul are all fine includes in a deck that wants to kill off it's own creatures in some way. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed will also grant all of your non-human creatures undying.

Burst card draw can be achieved with the black cards for life sorceries (Night's Whisper, Sign in Blood, Read the Bones, Ancient Craving). You can sustain card draw with Smothering Abomination, Phyrexian Arena, Skullclamp and Necropotence.

I think you could do with a few more sacrifice outlets as well, so I would add Viscera Seer and Phyrexian Altar. Viscera Seer also provides card filtering.

The following topics will help improve the deck in terms of pure strength, but may not be how you or your playgroup is wanting to play magic. Everyone's idea of fun is different, so I am going to include the suggestions in case they are something that both you and your group find acceptable.

Above some cards were mentioned that have the possibility to combo with cards already in the deck or with each other. Each card however is good in its own right and does not have to be used in the combos. If you are willing to go combo with the deck I will further explain these and also add some other cards specifically for the purpose of combos.

Yawgmoth and two undying creatures create a loop where you sacrifice the undying creatures in order to put -1/-1 counters on each other. It costs a life per iteration, but would give you the death triggers for your commander and for Gutter Grime. Adding in Blood Artist, Zulaport Cutthroat, or other similar effects gains you the life back and turns the loop into a win condition.

Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and any of the persist creatures allow for infinite sacrifice loops as the creature will come back with alternating +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters. Walking Ballista and Triskelion combo with Mikaeus and allow for infinite damage loops, in the case of Ballista you need a sacrifice outlet though. Things that enter with -1/-1 counters or that allow you to remove their +1/+1 counters for other reasons will also have similar interactions without the infinite damage.

With Devoted Druid you can add in Quillspike for shenanigans with infinite power Quillspike via tapping for green, untapping by putting a -1/-1 counter, adding power by paying green and removing the -1/-1 counter. This can be done with necrotic ooze as a 1-card combo if both pieces are in your graveyard. You can also get infinite death triggers by repeatedly killing Devoted Druid with Mikaeus out by activating the untap ability when she is not tapped.

Instead of card number advantage from drawing you could get card quality advantage from tutoring. In Golgari you have access to the best creature tutors and the best all around tutors available. Eldritch Evolution, Green Sun's Zenith, Worldly Tutor, and Finale of Devastation for creatures. Vampiric Tutor, Demonic Tutor, and Grim Tutor for all around.

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