Seizan, Perverter of Truth

Seizan, Perverter of Truth

Legendary Creature — Demon Spirit

At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player loses 2 life and draws two cards.

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Set Rarity
Champions of Kamigawa (CHK) Rare

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Legality

Format Legality
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Vintage Legal
Limited Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Modern Legal
Duel Commander Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Highlander Legal

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Seizan, Perverter of Truth Discussion

Caerwyn on Nekusar the Nightmare

1 week ago

You should cut Day's Undoing--because it ends the turn, Nekusar's damage triggers will not occur.

I would also recommend cutting Dictate of Kruphix, Font of Mythos, Howling Mine, Seizan, Perverter of Truth, and Kami of the Crescent Moon. These incidental, small draw effects are more likely to help your opponents by giving them the answers they need than they are to win you the game given how little "damage" they deal (with most of them providing no damage without outside support).

Forced Fruition is particularly bad--in my experience, Forced Fruition generally means an opponent casts a spell, draws 7 cards, finds their removal/board wipe, casts removal/board wipe, draws another 7 cards and then happily combos off with Forced Fruition no longer being in the picture. Basically this reads "Any player may pay 14 life; if they do, they find all their combo pieces and win the game."

If you want to make this more competitive, consider Glistening Oil and Phyresis, as both can make Nekusar extremely lethal, particularly alongside wheels or Teferi's Puzzle Box.

Underworld Breach allows you to get double use out of your wheel effects.

Spiteful Visions damages you, but, since you'll be dealing extra damage just to opponents from your other cards, your opponents will still be drained a bit faster than you will.

Hope some of this helps!

pistolpeteiii on Wheels Go Round and Round

2 months ago

I'd suggest swapping Skull Rend for Seizan, Perverter of Truth.

Deadpoo111 on Memento Mori: Remember That You Must Die

3 months ago

There's a promo of Brain Maggot that is absolutely disgusting and perverse, I think it'd be pretty cool.

In terms of extra cards, I'd suggest some legendary creatures from the Kamigawa blocks, not only is their art exactly what you're looking for, but some have the same theme as your deck. Here's the ones I would suggest:

Some extra weird cards that I've found in my journey's:

Overall, really cool deck theme! I'd put in an Underworld Dreams because it's pretty creepy and goes great with your theme +1

Oh yeah! and you should take out Jungle Hollow and Bloodfell Caves!

Kilian94 on Grixis Oddities BURN with Obosh companion

4 months ago

Thank you a lot for the appreciation Epicurus :)

These are some useful suggestion that i thought about but i found a little bit of problems adding them to my list (at least without some testing) for some reasons:

Seizan, Perverter of Truth is pretty nice, a lot of card draw but is a "lose life" effect which is not doubled by Obosh/Quest for the pure flame/Angrath Marauders, as you can see Forsaken Wastes is the only "lose life" of the deck included because abolishes life gain and punish the one who removes it. There is the problem of giving a lot of value to the opponent (it's a double Phyrexian Arena). requires some testing to see if the damage pays up what we give to our opponents. Is still a pretty good call, maybe Hypotesizzle can be a nice cut for him if someone wants to test. Goes direct to maybeboard

Sleeper Agent i love that card but there are some downsides, if you drop her turn 1 and the opponent that gains control of her knows the deck you are playing will instantly swing at you a couple of times to have an advantage on the "damage spread clock" you are setting, if you drop her late she can be used as a blocker and dies. If someone have sacrifice outlets is even value for them, it's pretty situational and not so reliable, and that hurts me because i wanted to play this card.

Master of the Feast another card i like A LOT, but has no "built in damage" like Nekusar/Fevered Visions or even Seizan. This means is really valuable when you have effects like Underworld Dreams but having him in hand without these is risky, because is free value for 3 opponents. Best used in Nekusar EHD cause you have this effect staple in the command zone.

Lightning Bolt ...that could be a nice card...but we are not lucky with obosh restriction -> Isochron Scepter. A single lightning bolt doesn't impact the game like a Slagstorm (even if it's basically 3 lightning bolt on a single card if used on opponents). The only way to make Lightning bolt in EDH is to make it an engine.

Thank you for the suggestion ! I'm still open for improvements

Epicurus on Grixis Oddities BURN with Obosh companion

4 months ago

+1 for DOT decks. Wish I could +1 again, because this is the first deck I've seen on here with a companion.

I picture it being difficult to build with the companion rule. I keep thinking of suggestions, but most of them are even CMC, lol. You probably already thought about them all and couldn't. However...

Ok, that's all I got.

Epicurus on Kess wheels

6 months ago

God, I'm glad I don't have to play against this.

Card suggestions:

Seizan, Perverter of Truth

Brain Freeze

Prosperity

I don't think I need to explain any of those suggestions. However, I keep seeing Cyclonic Rift on decklists, and I can't make myself believe that it's better than Wash Out. Perhaps you disagree.

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