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Exotic Orchard Discussion
10 hours ago
Lilbrudder: Generally speaking, I have access to shocks and allied fetches (though I prefer to go without if possible; I hate spending a lot of money on the landbase). Given that I'm playing Wood Elves, the shocks are a given. Fetches I'm not sure about, though Wooded Foothills seems cheap and necessary.
Other than that, I'm possibly thinking City of Brass, Forbidden Orchard, Mana Confluence, Command Tower, Ancient Ziggurat, Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Holdout Settlement, Ash Barrens, Exotic Orchard, Reflecting Pool, and Grand Coliseum. Am I missing any important lands under $7?
6 days ago
You said you needed some help with your mana base but honestly, you have something pretty close to a completely optimized tri-color landbase. If you only need the color very briefly, you might get away with Tendo Ice Bridge and Aether Hub. Exotic Orchard and Reflecting Pool can give you the heavy multi-color requirements you need (but are terrible on T1). I've also seen Tarnished Citadel used in these extremely fast and high-devotion decks.
On another topic, I might cut the remaining basic lands in your deck and add a Hermit Druid combo package, since you have so few basics anyway.
Hope that's helpful! :)
1 week ago
So with these suggestions, I really wanted to commit to thoughtful suggestions that compliment your playstyle, upgrade existing cards, and give your deck a chance to set itself up for success.
Starting with lands. I know I preach lands and basics, and part of the reason for that is a deck is only as successful as its mana base. Looking at the basic lay out, you have 35 lands, which is kind of on the low end. In a color-scheme that doesn't land ramp well naturally, so we will work to address this. Current stat, 13 out of 35 of your lands enter tapped, meaning that if you keep a hand of 3 lands, on average 1 will end up entering tapped and with a average CMC of 3.6, this means you might be waiting until turn 4-5 to play a first spell. So we will fix the mana base first. We will do this by addressing lands and mana sources that enter tapped or don't further your goal:
DROP: Alloy Myr; ADD: A basic Land. The reason is because it sits at the top of your curve and needs a turn to activate, thus being prone to a board wipe.
DROP: Rupture Spire and Transguild Promenade; ADD: Exotic Orchard and Myriad Landscape. These multicolor lands actually set you back a turn without realizing it, since you have to pay into them as well. Exotic Orchard plays into your theme and actually gives you access to other colors of mana in your opponents hand. Myriad Landscape can be used to ramp too.
DROP: The guildgates; ADD: The pain lands. Each one of Caves of Koilos, Adarkar Wastes, and Underground River. Great cards that offer mana fixing without a hit to a budget. They also enter untapped, which is the key.
DROP: The Ravnica Karoos; ADD: The Check Lands. Again, a situation kinda like Rupture Spire, this sets you back early game and is unfortunate late game when you have momentum. The check lands, each one of Glacial Fortress, Drowned Catacomb, and Isolated Chapel. They don't enter tapped provided you have a basic land TYPE (key word there). Again, they enter untapped which is important.
OPTIONAL DROP: One of each Basic Land; ADD: The Shock lands. These guys are phenomenal, seriously. If you can swing it, I'd recommend it bigly.
OK! Now that we have hit the mana base, lets look at upgrading some of the utility cards that allow your deck to get the gas it needs in play, things like your ramp spells and tutors, and just generally better versions of what you're running. Since we added and fixed your lands up a bit, we can slow down on all the ramp artifacts. So here are some suggested adds to get more bang for your commander.
DROP: Armillary Sphere; ADD: Darksteel Plate. We took care of the basic function of Armillary Sphere with Myriad Landscape, so this card seems overpriced and slow for the effect now. Expedition Map will fetch you a utility land/Mana fixer and is better, which you already have in here, so lets use this slot to get some protection for your commander. Sen Triplets draw hate by their nature, so having ways to protect them is important. Darksteel Plate keeps them around and forces people to play their board wipes different if they want your gals gone.
DROP: Manalith; ADD: Lightning Greaves or Swiftfoot Boots. More protection for the commander. Manalith is redundant and weaker when compared to Darksteel Ingot, making it the subject of the pull. Nuff Said.
SUGGESTED DROP: Annex; ADD: Strionic Resonator. Now hear me out on this one Sen Triplets is a triggered ability, denoted by the "At the beginning..." in the card. Annex may net you a land or remove utility, but copying your commanders ability seems like its more your style. And targeting two players at once has obvious benefits that I don't have to overstate here.
DROP: Beguiler of Wills; ADD: Merieke Ri Berit. With only 15 creatures (after cutting Alloy Myr), the maximum effect you could get from Beguiler of Wills feels limited. The suggestion here is a straight upgrade, non-conditional creature steal. Just gotta keep her tapped. And with added protection from the new protection artifacts, thats easier to do.
SUGGESTED DROP: Memory Plunder; ADD: Stolen Goods. They sit at the same spot on the mana curve, however, and the reason I put suggested here, is the casting cost of Memory Plunder really eats into your colored mana available, whereas Stolen Goods does not. This is more of a preference call but one I wanted to make any way
SUGGESTED DROPS: Thrashing Wumpus + Charisma; ADD: Enchanted Evening + Aura Thief. This fits the comboo here in a similar fashion, however I'd argue the latter is much more powerful and fitting to your deck than the former. Adding a sac outlet like High Market which can be fetched by your Expedition Map ensures that you have your combo. These pieces aside, each of these cards can serve a purpose on the board separately as well.
DROP: Grand Arbiter Augustin IV; ADD: Supreme Verdict or Wrath of God. Now this is one where you could probably explain it a bit more to me, but it feels really out of place from the outside looking in. It unnecessarily draws hate when your commander already does that a lot for you. A board wipe here could help.
DROP: Sidisi, Undead Vizier; ADD: Dragonlord Silumgar. Sidisi lets you sac a creature you steal from your opponent, true, but if your commander isn't online or you don't have a large creature presence, its a dead draw. Adding Dragonlord Silumgar actually fits our fairly-heavy planeswalker meta well,or grabs a creature that a player has. Just imagine the look on Eric's face when you pay 6 mana for his 8 mana Ugin
DROP: Seizan, Perverter of Truth; ADD: Keiga, the Tide Star or Recurring Insight. This one could go either way, depends on preference. I'm recommending cutting Seizan though because its the third effect of Howling Mine and Kami. It lands turn 5 if you have it in your opening hand, and you don't get the benefit until it comes back to you. 2 extra cards is a big deal in our meta as the faster decks just got more answers to kill stuff before it comes back to you. Recurring Insight sits in a similar spot on the curve and allows interaction with another player, and Keiga is a great trap that sits with your "Theft" theme.
DROP: Damnable Pact; ADD: Blue Sun's Zenith. While Damnable Pact gives you a way to deal damage to another player, if you can't kill them with this spell then you just gave them a ton of answers to kill you with or combo out. BSZ performs a similar function, however can be done at instant speed, hit you or another player, and shuffles back into your deck. Another viable option here would be Sphinx's Revelation
DROP: Knight of the White Orchid; ADD: Solemn Simulacrum. Its conditional land search at 2 mana, versus unconditional land search at 4 colorless mana. Sad robot is stronger in this case. Plus, Weathered Wayfarer does the knights job better.
SUGGESTED DROP: Fellwar Stone; ADD: Deep Analysis. Card draw that comes back. With a stronger mana base, less mana rocks is viable. I picked Fellwar Stone because of its effect, however only a suggested drop because I know it plays into your commander's strength. So up to you on this one.
SUGGESTED DROP: Plea for Guidance; ADD: A card draw spell, or another Jank spell of your choice. Plea for Guidance is a nice card, but at 6 mana its almost tapping you out in a given turn to get cards you can't play that turn. You also have 4 other tutors in the deck that give you an enchantment when you need it, so use this slot to play a different jank card that fits your playstyle and theme better.
So this is all I've got for now. Just a few thoughts I had immediately combing the deck. Again, these are all just suggestions and I tried to be cognizant of your playstyle and commit to adding thoughtful suggestions that also wouldn't break the bank.
Some other fun cards I stumbled across that were pure jank when looking for upgrades are below:
Hope this helps!
1 week ago
Lands could use a big update, and it dosen't need to be expensiveall the taplands (guildgates and gain 1 life lands) could be replaced with the tri lands from alara blockArcane Sanctum, Crumbling Necropolis, Jungle Shrine, Savage Lands, Seaside Citadel, and Exotic OrchardReflecting Pool is a better Rupture Spireyou could throw in a couple colorless utility lands and have you filter lands color fix you when needed. maybe add Vault of the Archangel, Reliquary Tower, Temple of the False God, Winding Canyons
Captain's Claws makes ally tokens
Jwari Shapeshifter is the clone you want!
ally's you could addAkoum Battlesinger, Bala Ged Thief, Bojuka Brigand, Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder, Grovetender Druids, Hada Freeblade, Halimar Excavator, Harabaz Druid, Highland Berserker, Kalastria Healer, Kor Entanglers, Makindi Patrol (change for Joraga Bard), Murasa Pyromancer, Oran-Rief Survivalist, Reckless Bushwhacker, Tuktuk Scrapper
also add Harsh Mercy
maybe cut the Overwhelming Stampede
1 week ago
Yeah, Exotic Orchard works for me. Open up a chat with me, and we can discuss trading. It might have to wait til morning tho. Bedtime.
2 weeks ago
For card draw, Rhystic Study is an EDH classic. In my budget Shu Yun deck, I'm using Mystic Remora, Desolate Lighthouse, Key to the City, and Jori En, Ruin Diver, and for other types of card advantage, I'm using Mind's Desire, Past in Flames, Charmbreaker Devils, Narset, Enlightened Master, Elite Arcanist, and Kaho, Minamo Historian.
For making your mana base more reliable, try replacing your basic lands with more lands that can produce or fetch a land that can produce any of the three colors in the deck. My suggestion would be to include Command Tower and some of the following: Mystic Monastery, Terramorphic Expanse, Ash Barrens, Vivid Creek, Vivid Crag, Vivid Meadow, Myriad Landscape, Grand Coliseum, Exotic Orchard, City of Brass, Forbidden Orchard, Meteor Crater, Thran Quarry.
2 weeks ago
+1, never seen a 5 color angel deck before.
I'd look at Cavern of Souls for making sure your important angels hit the board. As far as the land base goes, it's really good. Exotic Orchard and Mystic Confluence could probably find homes in here, though. Maybe even a Forbidden Orchard, since your creatures are predominantly flying.
I try to include Mirari's Wake in any deck that can run it, as the mana it provides is crazy good. Tempt with Discovery is another card I try to include in decks that run a lot of non-basic lands. It usually grabs me 4 lands in a game. But if you're in a more highly competitive meta, then Skyshroud Claim could work well. You might even want to add both, your creatures have very high CMC.
Atraxa, Praetors' Voice from Commander 2016 is great. Even if you can't make much use of the proliferate, the stats and body are highly efficient for her mana cost.
Your average CMC is pretty high already, but I think Maelstrom Wanderer would be a good include. He buffs all of your angels and free casts two spells (Which are likely to be two other creatures).
3 weeks ago
Drop lab man entirely. Ezuri, Claw of Progress and Sage of Hours are both a combo and strong in this build. Archmage Ascension is too little too late, most of the time. Bonds of Mortality is also very weak . Arcane Lighthouse can get through hexproof. If Blightsteel Colossus is that much of an issue that you need the remove indestructible, run tuck removal Deglamer or Unravel the Aether.Sensei's Divining Top with fetch lands is a strong card selection engine. I would consider running Momir Vig, Simic Visionary as the commander, only because he can tutor out the other legendary creatures if you need them. And the constant shuffling allows top to work overtime. Cycling lands are weak and you have other sources of card draw. Drop them.Tropical Island if you can afford it. Very low priority.Exotic Orchard can easily backfire. Probably not worth the small upside.Thrasios, Triton Hero seems weak outside of infinite mana. There are usually many better things to do with 4 mana, but I could be wrong here.Mystifying Maze to the OG Maze of Ith for efficiency reasonsCan't go wrong with more rocks. Try Simic Signet, Gilded Lotus, Chrome Mox, Fellwar Stone, and MindStone. Mox Diamond and Mana Crypt if you can afford them.Primal Rage sounds too weak to earn a spot. Champion of Lambholt and/or Bramblewood Paragon insteadWell of Ideas is also splashy and expensive. Howling Mine, Otherworld Atlas, Temple Bell, or even Font of Mythos all sound betterRishkar, Peema Renegade and more 1 cmc dorks would help accelerate you. Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Elvish Mystic and the like.Counterspells are good. Having mana up to cast them is better. Arcane Denial, Pact of Negation, Force of Will, Swan Song. Green Sun's Zenith fetches Dryad Arbor to ramp. Worldly Tutor, can tutor to top of library. Tooth and Nail, and Natural Order are good tutors if you still don't like Momir to repeatedly grab what you need.