Creature — Dragon
Flying Whenever Savage Ventmaw attacks, gain . You don't lose this mana at the end of steps and phases until the end of your turn.
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|Commander 2017 (C17)||Uncommon|
|Dragons of Tarkir (DTK)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Savage Ventmaw Discussion
10 hours ago
Hey, well done with precon upgrade on a budget.
Scion of the Ur-Dragon is one of the best Dragons for Dragon tribal being a repeatable Dragon tutor. Scion could replace Wardscale Dragon. Scion's ability to change into a Dragon can be done at instant speed which means during combat you can change into different Dragons whenever there's a stop at a combat phase.
Scion's ability goes well with Savage Ventmaw, Teneb, the Harvester and Bladewing the Risen which is a three Dragon combo to end up with Scion and cheat Teneb/Bladewing on the battlefield. Then if Teneb lives he can reanimate other Dragons you tutor for with Scion. Savage is part of the combo because you tutor for him first with Scion, before you attack which then gives you 6 mana to activate Scion three times during combat. The combo takes 11 mana therefore Savage making 6 mana means you only need 5 mana for other sources. Would you like me to explain this combo?
Consider cutting a few of the least good Dragons for more Dragon support? Rhythm of the Wild and Temur Ascendancy are in the maybeboard and they could replace two Dragons such as Vorosh, the Hunter and Darigaaz Reincarnated. The repeatable effects of Rhythm and Ascendancy are much better than what these Dragons can provide. Faeburrow Elder is also in the maybeboard and it's a much better ramp source than Mana Geode. Crux of Fate and Eerie Ultimatum are also in the maybeboard they could replace Spit Flame and Palace Siege.
There's 20 lands here of the 36 that will always ETB tapped which is a lot. The Tri lands on a budget are worth always ETB tapped, the rest are not. My advice is cut the Bounce lands and Scry lands for other types of lands. The combination of lots of Tri lands and Bounce lands is not good; play either one, not both in the same manabase.
Exotic Orchard is budget staple Rainbow land. By adding a few more basic lands then the 5 Battle lands are budget options since they have interaction with lots of basic lands. Cinder Glade, Smoldering Marsh, Sunken Hollow, Prairie Stream, Canopy Vista, can get each of these for less than $2 at TCGPlayer with Vista being the most expensive.
Manabase upgrades to consider:
- Add 2x Forest > Temple of Malady and Temple of Triumph
- Exotic Orchard > Temple of Epiphany
- Cinder Glade > Gruul Turf
- Smoldering Marsh > Rakdos Carnarium
- Prairie Stream > Orzhov Basilica
- Sunken Hollow > Izzet Boilerworks
You have Farseek and it can search for one of these Battle lands which is helpful for color fixing.
Good luck with your deck.
2 weeks ago
1 month ago
Hey, Savage Ventmaw when tutored for with Scion before attacking can make mana for three more activations of Scion. This can be used for a reanimation line with Teneb, the Harvester and Bladewing the Risen which you end up with all three Dragons on the battlefield and a Teneb who can attack again and reanimate again on your next turn. Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund gives Dragons you control haste and that's powerful when you reanimate a lot of them at once especially with Utvara Hellkite.
Looks like you forgot Sol Ring? With such a high budget is there some reason not playing any tutors: Demonic Tutor and Enlightened Tutor? Buried Alive is powerful with reanimation strategies because it also tutors. You have ABUR Duals, Shock lands and Trimoes which makes Nature's Lore and Farseek good two drop land ramp spells. City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Cascading Cataracts, Unclaimed Territory are some land upgrades to consider.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Boros Garrison
- Gruul Turf
- Izzet Boilerworks
- Rakdos Carnarium
- Dragonskull Summit
- Rootbound Crag
- Path of Ancestry
- Mana Geode
- Commander's Sphere
- Genesis Ultimatum
- Monastery Siege
- Vaevictis Asmadi, the Dire
- Slumbering Dragon
- O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Aggravated Assault and Hellkite Charger can go infinite with Bear Umbra and make the combat phase TRULY relevant. Add in other pieces like Savage Ventmaw (only works with assault) and Sword of Feast and Famine (kinda pricey) and you've got yourself some nasty combat oriented wincons.
I wonder why white girls love wolves. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
2 months ago
Let's re-visit the recent changes made to our Xenagos, God of Revels deck:
Atarka, World Render and Questing Beast have over-performed and have proven to be very valuable and powerful inclusions to the deck. Pairing Atarka, World Render and an activation by Xenagos, God of Revels has been devastating to opponents. Even though there are only six other dragons in the deck, Atarka, World Render has been paired with a dragon at least once every game. This pattern is understandably unsustainable, but this statistic makes the inclusion of Atarka, World Render even better. Questing Beast has been very valuable and has offed many planeswalkers. Its vigilance and deathtouch act as combat deterrents for opponents and has easily out-performed Vivien's Arkbow. No swapper's remorse here!
The switch of Mana Geyser to Savage Ventmaw has yielded unexpected results. Savage Ventmaw has been spot-removed prior to combat every time thus far. Minimally, it's attracting attention and forcing opponents to use their removal spells. It's a good thing.
I have not drawn Deflecting Swat once.
I saved the best update for last. Lurking Predators has been such a valuable addition to the deck that it's embarrassing it wasn't included originally. Although the deck has less than 30 creatures, Lurking Predators hit a creature more than 50% of its triggers. Similar to Atarka, World Render's pairing with other dragons in the deck, percentage-wise, this is an unsustainable statistic. However, I would be remiss not to include the work Lurking Predators has done in game-play thus far. I still think there's a place for Fiery Emancipation somewhere in the deck, but I can't reasonably and/or justifiably replace Lurking Predators with it. It has been too good.
So those are the updates to Xenagos, God of Revels. Let's keep Gruuling!
2 months ago
Hey, there's lots of ramp here which makes 39 lands more than you really need. Consider cutting some basic lands for other cards?
Cards to consider adding:
- Garruk's Uprising: repeatable draw and trample is good with Xenagos and Quartzwood.
- Aggravated Assault: repeatable combat phases or infinite combat phases with Savage Ventmaw.
- Savage Ventmaw: repeatable green/red ramp and combos with Assault for infinite combat phases and infinite green/red mana.
- Ghalta, Primal Hunger: mana cost reduction cares about the power of creatures you control, 24/24 Dino with trample/haste.
- Elder Gargaroth: can repeatable draw, life or create a creature, 12/12 Beast with trample/haste.
- Oakhame Adversary: good mana cost reduction in multiplayer Commander, can be repeatable draw, deathtouch, +X/+X pump and potential repeatable draw is a nice combination.
- Eternal Witness and Regrowth: recur any card.
- Talisman of Impulse or Gruul Signet
- Karplusan Forest and Grove of the Burnwillows: other Gruul dual lands that can ETB untapped turn one for a green one drop.
Cards to consider cutting:
- 3x Forest
- 2x Mountain
- Savageborn Hydra
- Grunn, the Lonely King
- Caller of the Pack
- Living Hive
- Blood Mist
- Fellwar Stone
Good luck with your deck.
2 months ago
I also run a Xenagos deck! Lol, what are the chances! I will try to keep cards under $15 per your suggestion....
Greater Good - BEST card you will ever add, if you listen to ANYTHING I say, this is it. Period.
Lurking Predators - With 1/3rd of your deck as creatures, this is like a sunbirds invocation that does something even if you pass the turn! Highly recomended!
Rancor - Nice to have, makes a 1/1 into a 6/4 trample with Xenagos. Providing trample cheaply and repeatedly is nice
The Great Henge - A bit over budget, but nice to have. Card draw, lifegain and ramp all in 1, usually for .
Gruul Signet - Nothing flashy, but another 2 mana ramp to help bring Xenagos out T3-4
Lifecrafter's Bestiary - Scry and card draw, not bad, definitely worth considering to help maintain gas
Decimate - 4 cards for 1? yes please! Can also target Xenagos if no other enchantments since he's indestructible.
Hull Breach - Mini decimate, still good!
Life's Legacy - Very useful, sometimes it sucks sacrificing a beater, but its sometimes very very needed, especially if you know they are holding up removal, they cant cast it in response since saccing is additional cost to cast
Nature's Lore - Ramp on T2 that can search up duals and brings the land untapped
Rishkar's Expertise - I rarely advise for risky cards, but the positive far outweighs the negative. Your biggest issue in this deck is getting 2 for 1ed, when you cast a draw/enchantment spell on your creature, they can remove it in response so you lose 2 cards to their one. But the potential of drawing 8 plus cards and casting a spell for free helps with this deck lack of tempo and card draw. I think it fits quite well
Skyshroud Claim - Nature's lore x2. While not necessary, can be helpful in keeping some tempo and ramp is crucial in a big beaters deck.
Berserk - A better unleash fury that can on occasionally kill opposing creatures when needed
Momentous Fall - Used in response to removal, removal can't be used in response to cast on the same creature
Return of the Wildspeaker - Used in response to removal
Lands...Obviously none of these are needed, but they make the deck slightly better are relatively cheap. Worth the investment, IMO. You have lots of room in your landbase given you are playing green and already run an ok amount of ramp. Adding even more ramp will really make your utility lands shine.
Dread Statuary - Manlands are helpful as they can be used for draw spells (see above instants/sorcerries) and can be equipped with rancor to deal damage unexpectedly.
Castle Garenbrig - Need that extra mana for that creature? I got you covered
Bonders' Enclave - Decent card draw
Blighted Woodland - Ramp
Myriad Landscape - See above
Raging Ravine - Manland
Sheltered Thicket - Least important of all lands, but nice to draw late game and can be fetched with nature's lore, farseek, skyshroud (although it will come in tapped)
Kessig Wolf Run - Has helped me win here and there. Shouldn't be overlooked, nice to have like the rest of these
Atarka, World Render - 12/12 double strike trample flying w/ Xenagos! Too good to pass up
Balefire Dragon - Deals with token decks and can clear a board while dealing heavy damage
Carnage Tyrant - HEXPROOF. I cannot tell you how many times hexproof has saved me in this deck. They cant use their removal they've been holding up, they can't counter it, and it has trample. Stats leave something to be desired a bit, but can pack a punch with Xenagos and is safe to use Rishkar's expertise on
Elder Gargaroth - New card which fuels card draw and has vigilance too!
Fierce Empath - Nice to find the beater you need
Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma - Ramp and provide trample!
Eternal Witness - Nice recursion of a beater or draw spell
Ilharg, the Raze-Boar - A beater that returns itself eventually and helps bring in other beaters (note: ETB triggers and the creature can attack a different opponent). Like a mini sneak attack
Inferno Titan - ETB and attack trigger. Not bad, I find it useful although you might not despite it being better than a lot of your other cards.
Kogla, the Titan Ape - ETB and attack trigger. Can be nice to bounce an eternal witness to give it indestructible.
Lifeblood Hydra - Even if they kill it, you get to draw something. I've found it useful, especially with berserk.
Nylea, Keen-Eyed - Helps make your creatures easier to cast, hard to remove, and helps you maintain gas. I'm still not convinced with it, testing it in my own build TBH. But thought it worthwhile to mention.
Pathbreaker Ibex - A beater that provides trample to other beaters. Puts in some decent work, especially with a rancor!
Reclamation Sage - Cheap artifact/enchantment removal on a creature (ex: lurking predators)
Sakura-Tribe Elder - Another cheap 2CMC ramp spell to ensure Xenagos T3-4
Savage Ventmaw - HUGE TEMPO! Attack and cast Rishkar's expertise or the Great Henge and then return of the wildspeaker/momentous fall/life's legacy or anything else is huge. Getting the attack and tempo in is VERY helpful as our deck struggles with tempo putting all the mana into a big creature.
Shaman of Forgotten Ways - Ramp and an alternate wincon should you need it
Siege Behemoth > Thorn Elemental
OVERALL: The deck is ok. I'm surprised how it has such a low CMC, but given your X spells. Once you replace those with 5+ CMC creatures, it will increase your AVG CMC to "normal". You want your AVG CMC to be around 4. Xenagos works as a sniper, you cast one big creature, give it haste and hope it doesnt eat removal. Given you spent all that mana on the creature, you don't do much else for the turn and then people usually swing at you because they are afraid of you casting another big creature out of nowhere.
As a result, having protection for them is crucial. In the form of heroic intervention, or another card out of budget such as Deflecting swat (which is SO powerful, counter counterspells, redirect targetted removal, targetted draw, targetted extra turns and more FOR FREE, so you can BLUFF INTERACTION). One more idea I'm thinking of is to replace Giant growth with Vines of Vastwood, similar function but provides protection as well. Also see Blossoming Defense for a similar function should removal/interaction is an issue in your meta as much as mine. Given you play against combo, they probably have interaction prior to them assembling their combo.
I got lots of ideas for cuts, so be sure to lmk what you think of each suggestion!
2 months ago
So the changes have been made. Here's what I decided:
1) Easily, Atarka, World Render improves the 99 by replacing Rampaging Brontodon. The double strike-enabling for dragons is more valuable than the power toughness buff of Rampaging Brontodon's attack trigger.
2) Questing Beast replaces Vivien's Arkbow. Vivien's Arkbow requires a lot of resources and the deck seems smoother with Questing Beast in its place. Questing Beast is too good to not be included in the deck.
3) Savage Ventmaw replaces Mana Geyser. I actually prefer Savage Ventmaw over Kozilek, Butcher of Truth in this spot. Without any of the spells that used to be included with the previously discussed token package, keeping Mana Geyser in the deck seemed to be an oversight. Savage Ventmaw's attack trigger will help mitigate the loss of this ramp spell.
4) Deflecting Swat replaces Chord of Calling. Chord of Calling is more difficult to cast without the presence of token creatures to help convoke it. In this exchange, a premium for protection was eye-balled. Unfortunately, a copy of Heroic Intervention currently is unavailable, but Deflecting Swat is a great runner-up!
5) I will continue to play-test and game-play with Lurking Predators. In the current deck list it replaces Gratuitous Violence, which was going to be replaced by Fiery Emancipation. This is a work in progress, as Gratuitous Violence has been a great card in the deck for me for a while. I'm open-minded, however, and will continue to give Lurking Predators a chance.
6) Lastly, Inkmoth Nexus is out and Field of Ruin is in. Inkmoth Nexus will find residence in another EDH/Commander deck. Its ability is rarely activated, if ever, by me in this deck. As such, substituting a more helpful land like Field of Ruin and its Maze of Ith-destroying capabilities seems like an easy swap.
And that's the way the news goes. I look forward to continue play-testing and game-playing Xenagos, God of Revels.