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Creature — Treefolk Shaman
When Woodfall Primus enters the battlefield, destroy target noncreature permanent.
Persist (When this creature is put into the graveyard from the battlefield, if it had no -1/-1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a -1/-1 counter on it.)
|Have (8)||, Mortiferus_Rosa , JasYper , Pumpkinking913 , Forkbeard , Hellsing , lorddarkstar , Thunderbeard|
|Want (5)||rennb1024 , paperstax , Sorgol , Tugboat , Carn13|
Woodfall Primus Discussion
1 hour ago
Making a The Mimeoplasm EDH deck. If I copy a Woodfall Primus and get multiple +1/+1 counters on it, if I sac it with Carrion Feeder , do all the +1/+1 counters go away once it touches the graveyard? or can I sac it repeatedly to blow up a bunch of noncreature permanents. I believe it is the former, but would like to make sure before I removing this "synergy" from my deck.
1 day ago
First of all, I like the animated lands subtheme! Sylvan Advocate is spicy. Being able to get wrath'd only to swing out with your lands next turn is the type of EDH we play for.
Win Cons: I saw that you want a Craterhoof Behemoth or Decimator of Provinces, but you don't need either! Most of your mana comes from dorks. If you tap down your team to cast a Craterhoof, you can't swing with your pumped Druids. As a general rule, never do fair things with Paradox Engine . If you aren't comboing out with it immediately, expect it to eat a Naturalize before next turn. Helix Pinnacle is another trap card. Without infinte mana, it's a painfully slow wincon. Even if you generate 12+ mana a turn, that's still an 8 turn clock, assuming no one can get rid of Pinnacle or wrath your mana production away. I even played it with Quest for Renewal and it's still too slow. A few overruns is all you need (Kamahl, Triumph of the Hordes, Pathbreaker Ibex, etc.) If all else fails, you can beat down with a big trampler by itself.
Druids: Don't play bad Druids for the sake of staying on theme. There are 179 Druids in Magic at time of writing, and I believe that only 25-30 of them are worth considering. At least trim some of the more niche ones to make room for 1cmc dorks that tap for . If you want to go big, you need reliable mana, not just neat synergies on turn 6. You also should add in the swiss army knife that is Treefolk Harbinger . It finds lands, Lignify , or Woodfall Primus depending on what you need. Priest of Titania is powerhouse, as is Voyaging Satyr to untap a Nykthos or flipped Growing Rites of Itlimoc.
Other Options: If you like Primal Order, Throne of the God-Pharaoh is another incremental damage source. Benefactor's Draught is the second best "doubler" after Vitalize, because it has a secondary mode of drawing a ton of cards on an opponent's turn for 2 mana. That card is a few dollars now, but Mobilize is a decent budget replacement. Wildest Dreams is a strict upgrade over Restock . Bloodscent is not good but can be cheaply replaced by Declare Dominance or Roar of Challenge . Harmonize is great as far as monogreen draw goes, and will on average draw you more cards than Shaper's Sanctuary.
I've been playing Seton for a few years now so feel free to message me with any other questions. I could talk about this deck for hours. I sometimes do.
4 days ago
My Roon of the hidden realms list is meant to be able to play as a fairly casual deck if I choose, but also face-meltingly oppressive if I want as well. By that I mean I want a lot of cards that I can abuse with my Deadeye Navigator + Peregrine Drake combo, but that are also good if I choose not to set it up. I have Eldrazi Displacer to abuse all the mana that can make me, and I have a couple of ways to find the creatures I need for said combo. I just need to decide what the best effects are to use along side it. Woodfall Primus , Terastodon , and Azor, the Lawbringer are cards I'd like to abuse. I just don't know what to take out or if I'm forgetting any other bombs.
Heres the decklist: Roon's Hidden Toolbox
5 days ago
Frank_Glascock I think Control_Train has a very very nice framework for us to build on. I like the whole toolbox aspect of the deck and always trying to find a solution to what we encounter.
Destructor Dragon I've cut today as well and put Massacre Wurm in a 6 for a 6 drop. Sounds about right. If I need an effect like the Dragon I'll probably go for Woodfall Primus because it destroys something on entering the battlefield.
The Silhana Wayfinder I've cut 2 weeks ago, super mediocre. And I run the same creatures as you do: Sheoldred, Kokusho and Mindslicer. All very very good creatures in my opinion.
Sylvan Wayfinder I ran from the start, protecting meren at the cost of one land is super fine in my opinion :)
The list of instants and sorceries and enchantments what you swapped I kinda understand. Even tho I do see the value of Casualties of War and Mausoleum Secrets but If I had a imperial seal I would probably run it over Mausoleum as well :)
I agree with you with dismember being the weakest spotremoval, that's why I've cut it as well. I might try out the Sylvan Library again as well. I got it in my binder.
Sol Ring I havent really missed and Lightning Greaves I havent seen yet since I've added it too the deck. I think it will do it's work like it normally does.
I understand the prowling serpopard :) I have the same, more and more people are playing control in our meta, so I might add him too the deck again. Or maybe even better, add a Cavern of Souls just so meren can't be countered. This way I dont have to use another spot in my deck. And meren can get everything that's being countered back from the grave I guess...
1 week ago
I agree with Frank_Glascock that Prowling Serpopard is not really pulling it's weight. I play in a control heavy meta and I rarely tutor for it. So that one goes out for Mindslicer . In my opinion as well Mindslicer is a ruthless card and much better against control then the more passive Prowling Serpopard
The other one that I've cut is Necrotic Ooze again, rarely pulled it's weight and often he turned into a sakura tribe elder... Not what I want to do for 4 mana. Chosen to add another copy of Plaguecrafter in the form of Merciless Executioner . My playgroup is really after removing plaguecrafter from the game ASAP. So another copy of it will make sure I can do my thing a bit more.
I don't agree with you, Frank_Glascock, on Destructor Dragon . At first I was a bit sceptic as well, but it is recurable removal that goes after anything that is not a creature. At first I thought why not Woodfall Primus , but 8 experience is just harder to get back than the 6. Especially since my playgroup loves to keep meren off the table...
Sol Ring I rarely have the feeling that I miss it.
Agent of Erebos is amazing in any Meren deck. Almost any deck plays some way of recursion and he is an all-star at keeping graveyards empty. I often dump him early game in my Survival of the Fittest to get him out of my graveyard later on.
Final Parting is a really decent tutor in this deck, cause it basically let's you get 2 creatures at the cost of 2.5 mana per creature. Wich is a bit more than a Demonic Tutor , but the fact that it's 2 tutors on 1 slot, I think is pretty amazing.
Control_Train, I have a hard time agreeing with all your cut's for WAR. New Lilly and Bontu are amazing for our decks! But I don't think Massacre Girl will perform that well. With the amount of Meren removal I'm experiencing, I'm quite reluctant in playing here and probably wiping my own meren off the battlefield.
Guardian Project seems like a wrong idea to take out. It draws soooo much cards and at a 4 mana investment I'm quite happy with it.
Casualties of War is amazing and it went directly into the deck.
Other cards that I would like to discuss with the both of you are: Garruk, Apex Predator Old face smasher has been in my deck for quite some time now. And especially with WAR out he performs really well. His mana cost is most of the time not really the problem and if our deck performs well by the time he hits there won't be much creatures to deal with him.
Kokusho, the Evening Star quite soon I found out that playing meren makes me a target. And when you are a target your life goes down. Kokusho fills this gap and get's me my life back. The fact that he is a flyer (next to the dragon, we play zero flyers) is quite nice as well. He really was the card I was missing in this deck and won me the game already a few times.
Sheoldred, Whispering One Often people already spent most of their removal when she hits the table and that means they have trouble dealing with her. She is an absolute all-star and if not dealt with most of the time results in a win.
Would love to get your imput as well!
2 weeks ago
This mono green EDH deck is well out of date and I could use some help updating it to not only be legal but competitive
I feel like the base of the deck is still pretty strong and it only needs a few minor updates here and there, so any and all inputs would be greatly appreciate.
3 weeks ago
Came here from help forum. It would be helpful to know what your deck wants to do, that way I don't end up suggesting bad cuts.
Hydroid Krasis unfortunately does not work the way you want it to. It only draws and gains life for the first half, and then the second half from Riku does nothing and dies as it is a 0/0 with no +1/+1 counters.
A lot of your counterspells like Time Stop are way too much mana. To be more effective you want low drop counterspells like Counterspell , Negate , and Essence Scatter , as you do not have to leave up as much mana in order to use them.
You have a lot of planeswalkers. Planeswalkers in EDH generally draw a lot of hate and end up being a weaker card type overall unless you build your whole strategy around them.
Maybe add some creatures with higher impact. Some of the creatures, like Skarrgan Hellkite , don't really do much in EDH. Wiser includes would have powerful enter the battlefield effects like Terastodon , Woodfall Primus , and Brutalizer Exarch .
Hope this was of some help!
1 month ago
There are some cards which I find confusing in your deck. Purphoros, God of the Forge is usually reserved for token decks or other "Go-wide" stategies whereas you are a "go-big" strategy. I also dont know how good Stalking Vengeance is. You are not a sacrifice based deck so this is just a lot of mana for some incremental damage. Then there's Sun Titan . It just doesnt seem like you have a lot of targets for him to bring back. Perhaps a fetchland or a mana dork that got killed early but not much else. Doesn't seem worth it. Then there's some other cards. I prefer Terastodon over Woodfall Primus . And why Sylvan Scrying and no Kodama's Reach ? I'd also consider adding just one more haste enabler. You have multiple creatures that want to be attacking right away like Etali, Primal Storm , Ilharg, the Raze-Boar , Balefire Dragon plus all the eldrazis. May I recommend Rhythm of the Wild ? Seems really solid in your deck.
Hope these help.
Woodfall Primus occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.03%