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Creature — Treefolk Shaman
When Woodfall Primus enters the battlefield, destroy target noncreature permanent.
Persist (When this creature is put into the graveyard from the battlefield, if it had no -1/-1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a -1/-1 counter on it.)
Woodfall Primus Discussion
2 days ago
So I really like this deck and it seems like it is fairly resilient. A few things I would consider adding would be more cards that synergize with your life gain strategy and Trostani’s populate ability such as:
Angelic Accord More tokens for gaining life in a deck that wants to make tokens and gain life seems like a win to me.
Well of Lost Dreams Fantastic way to turn that additional life gain into card advantage.
Congregate This is a nice card that works extremely well in Commander if you need a quick boost in life. Note Congregate reads target player gains 2 life for each creature on the battlefield. Many times, when I would use this card in a commander game I would easily gain 20 plus life off it.
Serra Avatar One way to read this card is play Serra Avatar with Trostani, Selesnya's Voice in play and double your life total. Even if you don’t have Trostani out you are still getting in most cases a creature that is well over a 7/7 most games for 7 mana which is a good deal.
Aetherflux Reservoir Can function as a secondary WinCon that you can pull out of nowhere. Trust me, play this card when you have an excess life total then instantly activate it taking the player that is the biggest threat out of the game. Also, don’t write off the first ability on the card. You would be surprised how quickly you gain life by just playing spells.
Growing Ranks A free populate at the beginning of each of your turns can be extremely strong in this deck.
Advent of the Wurm 4 mana for a 5/5 trample is straight value plus this will work really well with populate.
Armada Wurm 6 mana for a 5/5 trample that also creates a 5/5 trample wurm token. 10 power for 6 mana plus gaining a token works with populate.
Glare of Subdual In a deck that wants to go wide this can quickly shut down opponents from attacking you.
Blade of Selves and Herald of the Host Both of these cards work extremely well with Trostani, Selesnya's Voice . How they work is you attack with either Herald of the Host or the creature Blade of Selves is equipped to and let the myriad ability activate creating a copy of the creature that is attacking your other opponents. Normally the tokens created off the myriad ability would be exiled at the end of combat but, if you use Trostani, Selesnya's Voice ’s populate ability during your combat phase you can create an additional copy of the token that will stay in play after the combat phase is over because, it was created using the populate mechanic and not the myriad mechanic. Even if you don’t populate the tokens that were created Trostani, Selesnya's Voice ’s life gain ability will still trigger off the tokens gaining you a lot of additional life. The myriad ability also works extremely well with creatures that have enter the battlefield abilities. Imagine this line of play, you equip Blade of Selves to your Terastodon then attack. The myriad ability triggers and you put two additional token copies of Terastodon into play attacking your other opponents. When those Terastodon tokens enter the battlefield they trigger their enter the battlefield ability allowing you to remove up to six other noncreature permanents (three from each of the Terastodon’s that came into play). Also imagine Blade of Selves attached to Serra Avatar you would be tripling your life total each time you attack as long as Trostani is out.
A few cards I would personally consider removing Thrun, the Last Troll , Primal Surge , Godsend , Strionic Resonator , Woodfall Primus , Rout (maybe consider replacing Rout for Martial Coup which seems more on theme for a token deck) Felidar Sovereign , (I get why you added him but winning with Felidar in commander seems like a cheap way to win.)
A lot of these cards really don’t seem on theme for either gaining more life or creating tokens. Personally, I would look at replacing a lot of these creatures with creatures that make tokens when they come into play like Armada Wurm that you can use to populate or cards that synergize with your life gain like Ajani's Pridemate .
One last thing your combo of Darien, King of Kjeldor + Trostani, Selesnya's Voice does not work exactly as you think. For Darien to trigger the damage has to resolve meaning that if a player deals more damage than your life total at once then you would die before Darien could trigger. As long as you have at least one life after damage resolves and both Darien and Trostani are on the field then your combo works, you create the solider token from Darien and, Trostani gives you the life from the token coming into play.
1 week ago
Hey multimedia! Thank you again for your in-depth feedback. I was thinking about Woodfall Primus mainly to have another combotarget next to Triskelion for Mikaeus, the Unhallowed to get via Tooth and Nail . But since this does need a sac outlet it seems way less good than mike + trike (which can end the game immediately).
The 4 card-combo you mentioned around Protean Hulk seems nice, tho I'm a little bit concerned how often you can actually go for this combo without drawing the crucial cards too early. I'm still sad that the Hulk can't fetch Mikaeus + Walking Ballista and Viscera Seer to go off directly. But maybe I'm missing something here. In terms of enabling the combo Tooth and Nail seems a little bit better than the Hulk (although it costs 2 more mana).
1 week ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help. I don't think adding Woodfall Primus and Greater Good will help to bring consistency. It's adding more CMC which is what you should cut from your deck not add.
Primus has potential as high end creature with an aristocrat theme with Blood Artist / Zulaport Cutthroat , but you're not playing that theme. Melira, Sylvok Outcast can prevent -1/-1 counter from stopping persist thus you can loop Primus with a sac outlet destroying all your opponents noncreature permanents. Adding an aristocrat to this loop makes it infinite life loss for opponents.
There's also an infinite persist combo that Protean Hulk can tutor for: Melira, Sylvok Outcast + Lesser Masticore + Disciple of the Vault + Viscera Seer . This combo is looping Masticore with Seer resulting in infinite life loss of opponents from Disciple since Masticore is an artifact.
You have part of a game winning combo that Hulk can tutor for already Mikaeus and Seer. Adding Walking Ballista who's CMC is 0 finishes the combo by doing infinite damage to your opponents with Ballista. Cards that can reanimate and sac Hulk are powerful especially at instant speed: Necromancy , Apprentice Necromancer , Wake the Dead and Footsteps of the Goryo .
1 week ago
1 week ago
I have been playing my Meren of Clan Nel Toth deck recently and usually it runs pretty well in my playgroup. That said, I still think some tweaks could be made to smooth it out and make it a little bit more consistent.
Let me know what you think! Decklist can be found below.
Thanks in advance,
1 week ago
Hey, nice budget version of Xenagos.
Budget card upgrades to consider:
- Greater Good > Colossal Majesty
- Genesis > Moldgraf Monstrosity
Genesis can be repeatable creature recursion, good with Ghalta and Greater Good .
- Somberwald Sage > Zhur-Taa Druid
Sage is good ramp for creature strategies.
- Woodfall Primus > Carnage Tyrant
Primus also has trample and it can destroy a noncreature permanent when it ETB.
- Nature's Lore > Rampant Growth
Lore can get Stomping or Glade and put it onto the battlefield.
- Sylvan Scrying > Kodama's Reach
Scrying can get Kessig Wolf Run .
2 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
@Rene_the_great I haven't really had too much trouble tutoring with Birthing Pod or Eldritch Evolution . Unlike true Pod decks, I'm not trying to climb the CMC chain. I usually activate it when I need to grab some ramp or removal, so it's more of a toolbox than a combo piece. That said, I would like to slot a 9 CMC creature in so I can sac Woodfall Primus but so far I haven't found anything I really like.
Woodfall Primus occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%