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Enchantress's Presence Discussion
1 month ago
Sacred Mesa gives me enough reason to add back in Fertile Ground. I’m already running Wild Growth. I’ve run all the above mentioned enchant land cards you’ve listed in previous builds of this deck and was never satisfied, even when Estrid, the Masked was the commander. Exploration and Burgeoning offer more towards ramp with inclusion of draw and Land Tax.
I’m already running Satyr Enchanter, Eidolon of Blossoms, Argothian Enchantress, Enchantress's Presence, Mystic Remora, and Sylvan Library, not to mention my Commander is a guaranteed turn 2-3 drop. Also, I can always tutor my enchantress pieces in multiple ways. Inclusion of two additional enchantress cards with double mana costs is not as good as you think.
Aurification and Dissipation Field are actually worthless pillowfort choices as Commander damage or an all out assault can still kill you when up and opponents have possiblility to reobtain their creatures. Taxing effects are often more effective to discourage assaults as well as being cheaper to cast. Elephant Grass is listed on my maybe list, but is not prime choice due to cumulative upkeep and gives no card draw unlike Mystic Remora.
Overall my deck shuts down opponents very effectively so they can’t interact with me, but I can still touch them. Either opponents die to combat damage, Commander damage, or scoop due to lack of ability. I do like that Sacred Mesa that you mentioned.
2 months ago
- I actually do have Savage Lands in the deck... Just not on tapped out, so good catch on that one.
- I re-examined Endless Whispers and decided it NEEDED to go in, I forgot the trigger is not a "May" effect, so it can have a bizarre impact on the game. It would make games with creature sac-heavy decks quite unusual.
- I cannot possibly remove Titania's Song It is way too fun in this artifact-light deck to turn everyone's artifacts into no-ability agents of damage-dealing or using this enchantment as artifact removal - either way I'm happy. It also is an incredibly dopey-looking piece of old-school MtG art :)
- I like the ability to suspend Search for Tomorrow for .. but for a similar base cost cultivate does give me better future oomph & this deck won't worry about too many cards in hand, so I probably will make that switch.
- Depending on how it plays out in a larger group I may end up putting more removal in, however I'm not especially concerned with this deck on strategy locks, even this: Peacekeeper won't kill me considering all the oddball groupslug I have thrown in. My other consideration is additional card-draw: Enchantress's Presence could do some real work in here considering I end up running almost as many enchantments as an enchantress deck.
- Last cards I keep going back & forth on are Engulfing Slagwurm Hypergenesis and Frenzied Fugue - Fugue is such a pet-card for me & it hits PERMANENTS so stealing planeswalkers for an extra round does have its appeal.
2 months ago
I’d try to fit in all the enchantress effects you can. One of the main reasons to play enchantments is the absurd amount of cards you draw from Argothian Enchantress, Mesa Enchantress, Enchantress's Presence, Verduran Enchantress, and Eidolon of Blossoms. The good news is most of them are cheap.
Cards like Ephara can come out. You only have 16 creatures so an enchantress effect is going to net you so many more cards.
Helix Pinnacle can come out. Without infinite mana or Serra’s Sanctum/mass mana production, it’s a super slow win con.
You can upgrade cards like Oblivion Ring to Grasp of Fate.
Are you going for a voltron strategy? I’d add a purpose to the deck in the description. That can give people browsing a better idea of what you may help you out.
2 months ago
Hi ! Thanks for posting the list. First, I don't really see the potential of the Laboratory Maniac. What's your condition to draw/mill your deck ? Second, I'd recommend Satyr Enchanter, which is a Enchantress's Presence on a stick. Hope to see other decks soon !
3 months ago
Delta-117, your post is nothing but impressive. 75 minutes is alot of time to dedicate to a single post. Thank you.
Back in 2016, I wanted to acquire an Atraxa deck for myself, but unfortunately she was completely sold out everywhere. I had to settle for Breya, Etherium Shaper and Yidris, Maelstrom Weilder. Fast forward to 2018, and at a new LGS I spotted an Atraxa precon just sitting in the window. I asked if she was for sale, and ended up trading a Engineered Explosives and paying roughly 20ish bucks I think. I was lucky, because I wasn't the only person interested. I really wanted to build a deck surrounding the Praetors, because well...they're just really cool cards. I picked up a few at another LGS...but for this deck? I had plans.
Also, yes playing this deck is alot like archenemy. I am quickly voted Persona non grata, and the whole table quickly swoops in to destroy and dismantle all of my tools...while other less "scary" decks establish better boardstates, and eventually dominate the table into submission. Every game needs a villain, and I happily fill that role. And at the very least I have fun with it. I can't help but joke when I infect the whole table.
LANDS: The bond lands are cool and all, I just feel hesitant to include non-typed duals. Also the drawback is that those lands are duds if I ever play a 1v1 game. Admittedly it'd be rare when that happens, but it is definitely a possibility. Also,they can't be tutored. I'll admit the manabase is far from perfect, but i'll do some thinking (using your suggestions of course) and revise the list. What's funny is that I have a physical copy of Inkmoth Nexus in the deck already, but it's not on the digital list lol. Thanks for pointing that out.
Steady Progress is there primarily to keep tempo and increase poison counters on players, and drawing an extra card before the beginning of a turn is always a win. Now, Reliquary Tower is pretty niche. My deck doesn't get me a lot of draw unfortunately (something i'm working on), and the rare chance that Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur stays on the board long enough to really make Tower relevant...would be a surprise to me. I have a 2019 Reliquary Tower promo of it in my trade binder, I think i'll hold onto it and maybe do some experimenting.
Gavony Township seems like a really cool include. Given that most infect creatures need an increase in power and toughness placing +1/+1 counters on all of them in one fell swoop could be just the solution i'm looking for. I'll find a way to include it in the list.
CREATURES: I have a Phyrexian Swarmlord, just been trying to figure out how to work it into the deck. Corpse Cur has definitely been something of a dud where there have been just so few valid targets to bring back from the grave. My only qualm is that the deck needs some form of recursion, but Phyrexian Swarmlord is the bomb that this deck definitely needs to have a strong board state in the late game. I'll go ahead with your suggestion of swapping out the Putrefy, and see what happens. As for Champion of Lambholt, given that +1/+1 counters will never take center stage i'm hesitant to include her despite the benefits of the evasion she provides. Blightsteel Colossus is cool. Really, really cool. On theme, and intimidating- however the high CMC (even for this deck) just makes it unappealing to me.
Your other suggestion of Conqueror's Flail offers good protection (at least on my turn) and can potentially pump my creature up to +4/+4. If I see one, i'll pick it up and experiment with it. Also, I took a look at both lists and both Become Immense, Vines of Vastwood, and Mutagenic Growth (the flavor!) all caught my eye. All cards are instant speed, and can definitely make a player who begrudgingly accepts 1 poison counter to get far more than they bargained for. I want to figure out what to cut in order to include these beauties. Now, for Spellskite I like it. Full of flavor, and would be potentially a great albeit temporary defense. I just don't know what to cut for it. But the suggestion of Hatred really gave me pause. That's cool. It's applicable both early and late game...and can potentially end a player immediately for a fee of 9 to 17 life. Nobody would see it coming and it would be brutal. I'll definitely see if I can pick one of those up.
So on the topic of planeswalkers...I briefly considered including a Karn of some sort...but they deviate too far from theme. Honestly, I'm not really much of a fan of the mechanic. I have a few decks that have some Planeswalkers in them...but i feel really meh towards them. Just meh. Doubling Season would be great if this were a superfriends deck, but that is definitely something I want to stay away from. I'm just not a fan of those builds. As to your question about that Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, the answer is yes. I have an actual copy of that card. Long story short I was at my LGS playing EDH with a friend and I mentioned that I wanted a copy of that card, but it was 1 - very difficult to find, and 2 - very expensive. Then he just casually mentions that he had one - for trade no less. For a moment I was dumbfounded, but then he reminded me that he was a judge. Funny I didn't pay attention to that. So, with not a moment to spare I whipped out my trade binder and said "do your worst". The follow list below is what he picked up (it's a long one):
- Dragonmaster Outcast
- Siege-Gang Commander
- Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar
- Wheel and Deal
- Voice of the Woods
- Nut Collector
- Pathbreaker Ibex
- Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip
- Mayael's Aria
- Wild Pair
- Enchantress's Presence
- Huatli, Radiant Champion
- Rashmi, Eternities Crafter
- Ghirapur Orrery
- Sharuum the Hegemon
- Phyrexian Altar
- Sword of the Paruns
- Teferi's Puzzle Box
- Scroll Rack
- Graveborn Muse
- Endless Ranks of the Dead
- Army of the Damned
- Mad Auntie
- And last, but certainly not least - $80 cash
3 months ago
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6 months ago
This ended up being really, really long...so if it's TL;DR or you feel too critical, feel free to delete it (I wouldn't even complain at this point). Hard to really see this as an "Enchantress" deck while only being able to use Mesa Enchantress and NOT including a Serra's Sanctum to boot. Much more simply an Enchantment heavy Angel deck, which I definitely approve of since I love both Enchantments and Angels, but the title is misleading.
Enchantress is a deck centered around the Enchantress triggers of Argothian Enchantress, Verduran Enchantress, Enchantress's Presence, Eidolon of Blossoms; and if you're adding a color, you add White so you can use Mesa Enchantress and Femeref Enchantress. Without this core, it's not Enchantress.
As for the rest of the deck, it looks like it should be able to hold its own, but would probably improve with some cheaper Angels or more ramp. I used to run Voltron Akroma, Angel of Wrath and had to use tons of mana rocks just to make it playable. Akroma also cost 5WWW to get the FIRST time soooo....yeah...
Angels:Serra Avenger, Angelic Page, Emancipation Angel, Seraph of the Sword, Sustainer of the Realm, Angel of Condemnation, Seraph of Dawn, Blinding Angel, Herald of the Host, Angel of Sanctions, Angelic Arbiter, Angel of Serenity, Akroma, Angel of Wrath, Resolute Archangel, Archangel of Thune, Baneslayer Angel, Serra Ascendant, Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Iona, Shield of Emeria.
Enchantments:Serra's Blessing, Brave the Sands, True Conviction, Righteous Cause, Aura of Silence, Blind Obedience, Endless Horizons, Spirit Loop, Karmic Justice, Nevermore, Seal of Cleansing, Sphere of Safety, Spiritual Focus, Starfield of Nyx, Worship, Moat, Test of Endurance
Rocks/Ramp:Land Tax is pricey, but the best mono white land grabber in the game.Gilded Lotus, Chrome Mox, Lotus Petal, Manalith, Fellwar Stone, Spectral Searchlight, Darksteel Ingot, Mind Stone, Thran Dynamo, Pristine Talisman, Caged Sun, Gauntlet of Power, Extraplanar Lens, Explorer's Scope, Thunder Totem, Marble Diamond.
Other:Door of Destinies, Herald's Horn, Howling Mine, Demystify, Disenchant, Fragmentize, Forsake the Worldly, Fumigate, Aetherflux Reservoir, Approach of the Second Sun, Faith Healer, Grand Abolisher, Open the Vaults, Replenish, Second Sunrise, Oketra's Monument
A number of these are pretty pricey (and definitely out of my price range) but as someone who plays White in every format he plays, a Tribal player and an Enchantress player, I can go on and on and on about these kinds of decks...This deck happens to have a White-centric tribe and is Enchantment based. XD My apologies.