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Price & Acquistion
3 days ago
Sure thing. Sorry that took a while:
- Woolly Razorback: too expensive, not good
- Hindering Light: not good
- Remove Soul: not good
- Render Silent: too expensive, hard to cast
- Rewind: you don't wanna leave 4 mana open
- Chromatic Lantern: fixes all your mana, so it will be destroyed right away
- Cultivate: not good
- Skyshroud Claim: too late
- Condemn: not good
- Disenchant: claim is better
- Shield Wall: calculate mana cost/toughness boost. a 2 toughness per mana boost is good, anything wose should just stick or do something(like Call to Glory or Glorious Anthem, and even these are kind of bad.)
- Steadfastness: see shield wall
- Disallow: trickbind is better imho
- Pongify: leaves a 3/3
- Mana Leak: can be useless
- Dispel : very narrow for a deck like yours. I'd prefer Autumn's Veil or Heroic Intervention. adding the latter.
- Reality Shift: exile is awesome
- Noble Hierarch: mana dorks
- Elvish Mystic
- Llanowar Elves
- Fyndhorn Elves
- Arbor Elf
- Birds of Paradise
- Wild Growth
- Selesnya Signet: mana rocks
- Azorius Signet
- Simic Signet
- Mystical Tutor: finds everything
- Nature's Claim
- Echoing Truth
- Muddle the Mixture: finds a lot of really crucial cards and doubles down as an emergency counter
- Sylvan Library: too good not to run, even without paying life, fetches make this great. maybe also consider Mirri's Guile
Mana base(33 is enough at this average cmc):
- Tropical Island
- Arid Mesa
- Flooded Strand
- Marsh Flats
- Misty Rainforest
- Polluted Delta
- Scalding Tarn
- Verdant Catacombs
- Windswept Heath
- Wooded Foothills
- Horizon Canopy
- Reflecting Pool
- Adarkar Wastes
- Yavimaya Coast
- Ancient Tomb
- Nimbus Maze
- Strip Mine: Maze of Ith so you always wanna have one of these four sooner or later during a game.
- Ghost Quarter
- Tectonic Edge
- 3 Forest
- 3 Plains
- 4 Island
That's what I'd do and then playtest it and go tweaking. Hope that helps and also that it wasn't too brutal. For real tweaking please add a list of decks you play against or how a normal game looks like(amount of combo decks, creature decks, control decks per game). You do run lot's of creature spot removal, but I let that in, since you might need it.
3 days ago
My main concern of the deck is the "competitive" tag. That tag would imply this deck is a fully optimized, competitive list, able to see play against the best decks of the format, and still have a decent winrate.
This list, from what I see, is not able to accomplish this.
I honestly do not know what this deck is trying to do, as there was not a primer for it, nor an explanation, but I will look and see, If I am wrong in my analysis, please correct me, and I will apologize promptly if I am mistaken entirely.
It looks like a Shadowborn Apostle deck, that is using the apostles to cheat out few choice demons, of which there are 7 total, out of them Demon of Death's Gate and Ravenous Demon Flip are simply large beatsticks, and so are basically useless for a cEDH deck, Indulgent Tormentor is the same unless you team with an opponent, and Rune-Scarred Demon is a Demonic Tutor on a stick. Ob Nixilis, Unshackled is a big hate-on search, but the 10 life and sacrifice a creature should barely hurt a player unless they are paradox combo with Captain Sisay or Arcum Dagsson, and so they use a Swords to Plowshares on it or Pongify and then combo off. Harvester of Souls is decent card draw, and Razaketh, the Foulblooded is actual tutoring.
What can you tutor for or draw to win? Not much I am afraid you only have 6 removal spells, and they aren't very good for these colors, no Dismember or anything else really.
Without Mana Crypt, Mox Diamond, Mana Vault, Fellwar Stone, Mind Stone, Lotus Petal, or Chrome Mox type effects, you can't legitimately expect to pull a win with this deck at a competitve table, and your card draw is just horrendous.
At least I would suggest you do the courtesy of running your good tutors, Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Imperial Seal and Grim Tutor (some decks don't need Grim Tutor), along with Necropotence for draw and Ad Nauseam + Angel's Grace for the draw your deck.
May I ask about you landbase?
Commonly, for a competitive deck, the usually 2-color landbase looks like:
City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Caves of Koilos, Fetid Heath, Concealed Courtyard, Command Tower, Forbidden Orchard, Exotic Orchard, Reflecting Pool, Gemstone Caverns, and Tarnished Citadel (the 11 unfetchable duals in your colors)
This 31 card landbase is fully tuned and optimized for a competitive deck, why does yours not run the rest of the good fetches, and all of the good duals?
To be entirely honest, I don't think this is a bad deck, and don't want to offend you or your deck-building skills, but I would hope you drop the "competitive" tag or change the deck a lot, it is mis-leading as it is.
If you want any deck-building advice on how to make this deck competitive, I suggest heading on over to Why Every Commander is Competitive and learning from that resource I set up for new players to cEDH.
4 days ago
2 weeks ago
Hello. I would recommend Wayfarer's Bauble, Sword of the Animist and Burnished Hart. Not only is the land based ramp, offered by these cards, more resistant to removal, but they work excellently with Emeria, The Sky Ruin and Emeria Shepherd.
Other ramp cards that I would put in are Knight of the White Orchid and Oath of Lieges. Oath of Lieges might seem bad because it give your opponents lands. To summarize, This card accelerates the game from the early to the late game. However, you are playing Avacyn and Emeria shepherd and other powerful angels. I think it is safe to say, that your late game is pretty good.
2 weeks ago
Wow, thanks, that's a lot to go over.
I do have some things I would like to say about what I have. I'm still open minded to lots of what you said, and thank you, again, for helping.
I am using Mammoth for its trample and it being a secondary win-con having 8 power trampling (like a mini-Ghalta) and I can fit it into my curve. I intentionally kept room for it and passed by the huge amount of CMC 4 or greater creatures, ever so appealing.
I currently have few big things I need to ramp into and having too much mana and not enough cards in hand is one of my more present problems. Should I be this prepared for Control? What are some good cards for my sideboard? If I use a transformative sideboard what should I have in it?
My Shalai, Voice of Plenty is a one of in my deck because I think I can support it manabase wise and I can sideboard more for control matches. A worst case color screw would be having 3 Sunpetal Grove in my opening hand, but that would be unlikely due to my amount of Forests as they would almost always enter untapped. Blossoming Defense is normally a 4 of due to its ability to keep things alive, but most of my creatures will be able to kill whatever they end up fighting, proven they survive it. Heroic Intervention fits my requirement for protection and instead of giving +2/+2 it gives indestructible. Why this over Blossoming Defense? Because my creatures have high power, less toughness, and +2/+2 may not save them. I am worried about the difference of to But I think it's worth it in the end. I also have a one-of Plains; it gives me a target to tutor for after getting settled. I can find it and play Shalai for future settles. (If they have the mana for it and you know they run it then attack with what you can spare getting damage or baiting it away from your bigger and more imprtand things) and If my opening hand is good but has Plains and Sunpetal Grove then I can still have my green mana untapped by turn 2 ready for Untamed Kavu (Vigilance and Trample) or Merfolk Branchwalker (extra land or scry). Your vary right about Gaea's Blessing so I have redone my Sideboard, I found that I have a vary hard time dealing with Lyra Dawnbringer, Glorybringer, and Rekindling Phoenix so I added Plummet and Crushing Canopy which doubles as a Naturalize (It temporarily gets rid of Phoenix but that Tempo can be well worth it).
2 weeks ago
Fixing mana issues and other changes.
I always found Pilgrim's Eye to be kind of lame. I'm replacing it a Trophy Mage. It can search for Steel Golem, Burnished Hart, or Sunforger. A threat, a ramp-card, or the most powerful equipment in EDH. (I know this is kind of ironic, because Pilgrim's Eye, if it were to remain in the deck, could be tutored with Trophy Mage. But why would I do that?)
3 weeks ago
Experiment Kraj [very important]
Quillspike [very important]
Vizier of Remedies [very important]
3 weeks ago
Hello, I think your deck is really cool. I also am a mono-white enthusiast, on a mission to make the strongest possible white deck. I have a few comments on your card choices.
Inventors' Fair: This feels too slow to be playable. You are effectively paying five mana and sacking a land to get Skullclamp into your hand. In addition to skullclamp, I personally run alternative draw engines such as Memory Jar, Mind's Eye, The Immortal Sun (which doubles as ramp) and Karn, Scion of Urza. These all serve as additional draw, albeit mediocre. You probably have considered these, but just in case you haven't.
Chrome Mox: I would imagine that, although the zero-drop mana ramp is powerful, the 2-for-1 you are inflicting upon yourself by playing this, would be too much card disadvantage for mono-white to handle. If you play chrome mox turn 1, it's as if you mulligan-ed. Mox Diamond has the same issues, although it works better if you have already played a Land Tax. However, maybe you have concluded that the upside of playing a chrome mox outweighs the card disadvantage.
Fetchlands: I would heavily recommend that you replace four Plains with Flooded Strand, Windswept Heath, Arid Mesa and Marsh Flats. Not only do the synergize with Crucible of Worlds, but they also make Scroll Rack and Sensei's Divining Top better. In my deck I Include as many shuffle effects as possible. With out them, Scroll Rack feels like a dead card after one activation if you don't have Land Tax or Weathered Wayfarer. I personally also run Oreskos Explorer, because it shuffles my library no matter what, chump-blocks and holds skullclamp. It might be a little weak though.
Flagstones of Trokair: I honestly don't get the hype behind this card. It cost a lot of $$$ and it is a nonbo with Emeria, The Sky Ruin and Extraplanar Lens (if you had one). Nobody will ever target-destroy it. It is only relevant when someone does an Armageddon type effect, though you do have Cataclysm. The plains then comes into play tapped -_-. At that point, does it really matter having one more basic land than everyone else? I dunno, you probably know better than me of this.
My mono-white deck is below. I don't get to play a lot. I mostly just goldfish. My deck is obviously much less competitive than yours. However, maybe it can provide some benefit for you, as your deck has done for me. Thanks :)