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Reflecting Pool Discussion
17 hours ago
So, first thoughts: it looks good! Very cohesive, good selection of reanimation, good targets to put in graveyard, etc. This is quite a bit better than my first EDH deck was, so kudos XD
With that being said, there are several places I might tune this deck, sorted into the rough categories below:
Removal/Interaction: Toxic Deluge is an amazing board wipe in EDH, almost unquestionably better than Damnation here (you can tailor it to miss your commander, too!). Beast Within is one of the best removal spells in the format, along with Nature's Claim and Assassin's Trophy: I'd try and include all three. Maybe might run a few counterspells such as Swan Song/Counterspell/Muddle the Mixture, but that's more of a taste thing: do you want your deck to be more slow and grindy and controlling, or more aggressive where it primarily uses its removal to deal with specific problems? You could also add Lightning Greaves, which is an amazing way to give protection and haste to your commander.
Other targets for reanimation: Sewer Nemesis maybe? I might actually NOT run Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger here, I'm not convinced he does enough to warrant being reanimated when you have other targets like Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur laying around. I'd also work on cutting down on SOME of these, since they're pretty much dead in your hand: do you really NEED Ghoultree as a vanilla 10/10 that's only good when exiled by your commander? Et cetera ;)
Other good methods of self-mill: The new set gave us various Surveil cards (particularly Doom Whisperer, run him, he's awesome). Beyond that, Mesmeric Orb (hey, convenient that you have one!), Underrealm Lich, Sidisi, Brood Tyrant, maybe Fraying Sanity? I'd check out the Sidisi list I texted to you, it has some good ones. I'd also use Glimpse the Unthinkable here, probably.
Other great reanimation spells: Exhume, Dance of the Dead, Dread Return, Victimize. Your deck isn't a token deck, so Whisper, Blood Liturgist isn't amazing here, but Hell's Caretaker might do the trick. Final Parting is a MUST, given that you can tutor Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur into GY and Reanimate/Animate Dead into hand.
Landbase tuning: For what it's worth, there's a strong argument for running ZERO basics here (despite increased vulnerability to Blood Moon/Back to Basics/Ruination) for the instant mill combo with Hermit Druid. But if you're gonna do that, or even if you're not, you want less lands that will enter the battlefield tapped (and/or to include Amulet of Vigor). Beyond that, Songs of the Damned is an AWESOME card in this deck, and Ramunap Excavator is silly here obviously. I'd also play the five allied fetchlands (Wooded Foothills, Polluted Delta, Windswept Heath, Flooded Strand, and Bloodstained Mire) and the three appropriate shocklands (Breeding Pool, Watery Grave, and Overgrown Tomb). In a 3-color deck, I'd remove most utility lands (excluding Rogue's Passage and Cephalid Coliseum, maybe one or two more), and primarily work on fixing your colors and having lands come in untapped. The other major lands I'd say you're missing are City of Brass, Reflecting Pool, and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. You can probably cut down to 36 lands, which can open a slot or two.
I'd say that the most natural cuts would be Fleet Swallower, Ghoultree, It That Betrays, Laboratory Maniac, Master Biomancer, Reyhan, Last of the Abzan, Taigam, Sidisi's Hand, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger, Chill of Foreboding, Damnation, Sultai Ascendancy, and two lands. After that point, cutting gets hard.
I hope that helps!! :)
1 week ago
Okay, so I understand your plan, but proper support is necessary, I would suggest making the deck more streamined, running more untapped lands, like basics, Tarnished Citadel, City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Forbidden Orchard, Reflecting Pool, etc. as well as more ramp, such as Nature's Lore/Farseek and the shock-lands/og-duals. Additionally, the shock/og-dual+fetch land landbase is a great addition. Birds of Paradise needs a spot as well.
After that, I would attempt to abuse cascade and other effects like it to build up counters on Ramos faster. Grafted Exoskeleton, Inquisitor's Flail, Duelist's Heritage, Lightning Greaves, Swiftfoot Boots, etc. will help the voltron strategy out.
1 week ago
Really, it would be around tier 4 this build. I imagine a better version going with a more consistent stax plan that happens to run a few key enchantments, instead of this could even be tier 2.5, but the commander would be all but a major part of the deck.
If you want a real enchantment-based build, use Earthcraft and Squirrel Nest, drop the Enchanted Evening/Aura Thief, Starfield of Nyx, Sigil of the Empty Throne, and Solemnity/Phyrexian Unlife/Solemnity/Decree of Silence. You should run Altar of the Brood as support for both the earthcraft combo and Opalescence/Parallax Wave.
The other drops you should have are cards like Cultivate and Kodama's Reach, because they are bad cards and shouldn't be run in any non-landfall deck, Cleansing Meditation because it is bad, and Skyshroud Claim. Pendrell Mists is too much mana for this deck to handle, as is Omniscience, despite its power in some decks.
Leyline of Anticipation is weak for its mana cost, and is abd draw, only semi useful when in openning hand, but even then it isn't great.
Land Tax is a bad card, honestly unless you are monowhite or in a deck that benefits from discarding cards, it isn't worth it. The thinning is the best it does, and a card in your deck that thins only is trash. If it is used to help you hit land drops, your deck is either A: Not in need of land, or B: Awfully built or was mulliganned poorly.
Now the next part is on what to add. I talked about dropping around 27 cards, so there is some room. I would drop around 3 lands at least as well, which leaves us with a clean 30 cards to add.
Now, we'll add the cards I previously talked about, Altar of the Brood, Earthcraft, and Squirrel Nest. These help you win the game after we dropped a lot of your previous wincons. Greater Auramancy is also a card I prior suggested, and helps stop a Nature's Claim kill you. 26 cards left to go.
The next is to replace the lands we dropped. You want mana fast, so you can empty your hand, and use Tuvasa to draw more cards, aiming to hit a real enchantress or tutor for one. This means two things, more tutors, and more ramp.
Wild Growth, Utopia Sprawl, Overgrowth, and Fertile Ground help benefit Earthcraft when used to make more mana on combo turn, especially with an Opalescence out. Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Sol Ring, Chrome Mox, Mox Diamond, and Lotus Petal allow the deck to get more mana faster as well. This leaves 16 cards.
Teferi's Protection, Swan Song, Flusterstorm, Seal Away, Ravages of War, Force of Will, Nature's Claim, Armageddon, and Cast Out are efficient pieces of interaction I would suggest. This leaves 4 cards.
Nature's Chosen is a card I have found success in, and suggest you try it too. Enchanting a Tuvasa makes it another land in essence, and can untap a Serra's Sanctum, it is under the radar, so pick it up before all of the Emmara, Soul of the Accord players find out about it. That is it!
After looking through, the following lands are must drops, as they aren't good in nearly any deck:
They don't have a place in this deck.
Similarly, you should optimize your deck to get your colors more on curve, fetchlands being a major part of that. Wooded Foothills, Flooded Strand, Polluted Delta, Misty Rainforest, Scalding Tarn, Verdant Catacombs, Arid Mesa, and Marsh Flats are the missing ones in your colors. You can use them to fetch the shock/dual lands for colors, or basics for Back to Basics/Earthcraft.
Wooded Bastion, Flooded Grove, and Yavimaya Hollow should be dropped as well to fit them, as well as Brushland for Razorverge Thicket, Adarkar Wastes for City of Brass, Hinterland Harbor for Mana Confluence, Glacial Fortress for Exotic Orchard, and one of each basic because you have too many lands.
That's it. That would actually be a tier 3 enchantress deck, and doesn't stoop to just playing Tuvasa for colors for a stax-combo deck, running no enchantments.
3 weeks ago
Is Peat Bog there with any specific intent in mind or is it there as your "best land available at last" type of deal? I'm asking this question because there are certain lands that I'd use over it and Lake of the Dead, like the somewhat new Luxury Suite and even cards like Exotic Orchard and Reflecting Pool.
I do have some issues with the filler Artifacts that you are using, though I have yet to do my own research to see if there are any superior options.
Great list nonetheless!
1 month ago
Consider dropping the following:
Derevi, Empyrial Tactician - not a Warrior
Boros Signet, Selesnya Signet & Gruul Signet - weak color fixing and better use of sleeves.
Bident of Thassa - not sure, seems kinda weak but it may be better in your deck.
Bear Umbra - cute aura, but aura's are weak in multipler unless your playing aura voltron.
Sosuke, Son of Seshiro - you aren't making snakes. I know that the destroy a creature is nice, but deathtouch does effectively the same thing.
Warriors to consider:
Mardu Woe-Reaper, Skarrgan Pit-Skulk, Wild Nacatl, Blood-Chin Fanatic, Ogre Marauder, Brutal Hordechief, Drumhunter, Wolfir Silverheart
Glistener Elf - for those times when you really HAVE to but don't want to.....
Patriarch's Bidding - the best tribal recursion spell
Bloodsoaked Champion & Reassembling Skeleton - skullclamp or chump block all day long.
Surrak Dragonclaw & Yasova Dragonclaw - Because why not?
Imperious Perfect & Nacatl War-Pride - tokens!
Brion Stoutarm - fling!
Cliffhaven Vampire - this could be a combo piece....
Herald of Secret Streams - ahahahahahahaha Bramblewood Paragon has a best friend
There are more Warriors to consider, but I wanted to focus on some utility that you may have overlooked.
Here are some lands you may have overlooked: Unclaimed Territory, Opal Palace, Reflecting Pool
1 month ago
Really impressive deck, kudos for all the well earned recognition. I have only two cards I would bring up, as you said this is a 75% deck, so I won't haggle over only slight upgrades.
One card I would question is Myriad Landscape. You have a low basic land count, and this also happens to be the only land you have the comes in tapped. You could go for broke and add something like Mana Confluence or Reflecting Pool. If you're okay with one tapped land, then why landscape over Krosan Verge? I even like Path of Ancestry quite a lot. Herald and E-wit are both shamans.
The other card I'm not big on is Mana Bloom. The crushing wording in the text pushes this card to just mediocre I feel. Even with Cloudstone Curio out, this is a lot of hoops to jump through for that Enchantress effect. Flickering ward just does it so much better.
The card I would recommend in its stead is Search for Azcanta Flip. This seems like a slam dunk for this deck. Get it to flip, which should be relatively easy, and it turns into a powerhouse that digs for your win-con. Takes at least one turn to flip, but seems like much better upside than bloom.
1 month ago
Here's something to consider, instead of Glorious Anthem effects what about more tools to make the deck more aggressive. Yes, +1/+1 for your creatures does help with the combat phase, but consider that you only need to attack for 10 points of 'damage'.
Here's some thing to look at:
Another attack vector:
Crucible of Worlds
Pretty expensive but worth it:
Survival of the Fittest
1 month ago
I don't think Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx is going to be a very good inclusion. They are mainstays in mono-colored decks, but in a deck like this, you'll probably not reap much mana at any given time with it. Replace it with something like City of Brass, and see if you can add something like Reflecting Pool as well. That will help smooth out the mana base. Any of the other Vivid lands would help, but look into any of the dual-colored pain lands, too.