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Enchantment — Aura
Enchanted creature gets +2/+2 and has "Whenever this creature attack, untap all lands you control."
Totem armor (If enchanted creature would be destroyed, instead remove all damage from it and destroy this Aura.)
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Bear Umbra Discussion
2 days ago
Thanks a lot for all the suggestions. Glad to hear you like it, and sounds really fun to combine some of your older decks into a new one, for me it is one of the funnier things to do to see some of your cards from older decks in a new theme :)
As you descripe, i do like to go wide with abilities myself, so i would rather not focus on one single theme. +1/+1 counters are nice and can buff my creatures and with Herald of Secret Streams they become unblockable. I do like the untap theme of the deck so i might use more of that if possible.
Steely Resolve/Kira, Great Glass-Spinner: Might be a little longer before i include these, since they are a bit pricy for me at the moment. But might test them out with proxies since my playgroup allow them :)
Aquitect's Will/Spreading Seas/Quicksilver Fountain: Might be something i decide to include, i didn't include them at first until i played the first version of the deck a couple of times since i have played a casual U/W merfolk deck that played with this theme. But it might be good to make the opponents playing non blue get some island to make more merfolk unblockable :)
Sage of Fables/Azami, Lady of Scrolls: Considered them, and decided not to include them, i have a lot of draw power already so i would rather include more merfolks than adding more utility creatures. I will also probably build a heavy control EDH deck at some point and think i would rather use Azami there if possible, but she is very powerful and she may be included at some point. With Sage of Fables i have a lot of draw power already. Paying mana and +1/+1 counters to draw cards seems to expensive, since the counters can be utilized for more damage and unblockable. And for the extra counters then Hardened Scales is just better at doing that for all my creatures getting more counters, since only 13/35 of my merfolks are wizards, and some of the wizards may be cut.
Bear Umbra/Nature's Will: Very good cards and can use them in many of my decks, will definently be looking into getting a copy of them since their price point is just a tad lower than Steely Resolve and Kira, Great Glass-Spinner.
Winter Orb/Meekstone/Back to Basics: I do have a copy of both Winter Orb and Meekstone and i will consider these after some playtesting against my meta and having figured out what cards may underperform :)
Xenograft/Arcane Adaptation: I did consider them, but i decided that without their combo parts they just would do enough of their own. I try to run as few non-merfolks as possible so in that regard they dont really do that much, and when i dont run Sage of Fables or Azami, Lady of Scrolls it would not work that well.
Equilibrium: Dont really see how powerful it is, you need to have a lot of creatures to make that work, and even though the card draw is very strong i think i would run out of gas pretty quickly. But i may just have to see it in action first.
Dramatic Reversal/Turnabout+Sigil Tracer: Well as long as you have the mana rocks for the effect to trigger but with only 4 cards making it possible to get the mana on a nonland untap it seems to need one more card to go infinite like Cryptolith Rite or 2 mana rocks where one has to be the Simic Signet.
I do want to add more counterspells myself, mostly because i want to get better at playing blue and because my meta do use a lot of board wipes :)
Thank you so much for your feedback, i have a lot of cards to consider now, and to make the deck stronger :) If you want some feedback on your decks let me know :)
BTW, with so many suggestions for add cards, do you have any thought on what to might cut? I have considered:
3 days ago
I love both my Sygg, River Guide and my Edric, Spymaster of Trest EDH decks but I will be adjusting the first and disassembling the latter to construct a Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca EDH deck, whilst taking inspiration from both! Kumena will be a Brother-deck to UW Sygg Tribal so they can be played in tandem when playing with a friend.
As far as I can see right now, your options would be to either focus on +1/+1 counters, go wide with tokens, tap/untap shenanigans and/or a Stax strategy. These are all good options in my personal opinion, and might even be combined in the deck. I personally like to build a deck with various options from all categories, so as to not focus to much on a single strategy. Flexibility is key!
I'd advise the following cards:
Steely Resolve/Kira, Great Glass-Spinner: In addition to Kopala, these are nice ways to give all your merfolk protection from targeted removal. Shapers' Sanctuary Isn't protection, but it might deter your opponents from using targeted removal. I'd run a couple of counterspells in addition to these cards to protect against mass removal.
Aquitect's Will/Spreading Seas/Quicksilver Fountain: Lord of Atlantis and Master of the Pearl Trident Offer Islandwalk, why not "help" your opponents enable this ability! the sorceries are cantrips and if Fountain did its job in giving each opponent a flood counter that's good enough in and on itself (and if people want to waste removal on it after that, be my guest!).
Xenograft/Arcane Adaptation: Turn all your non-merfolks into merfolks! Turn al your non-wizards into wizards! Depending on the situation, this is a nice enabler for creatures that are left out due to type restrictions.
1 week ago
1 week ago
1 week ago
Thank you for the feedback.
I like Bear Umbra for this deck, and will give it a playtest. I've had mixed success with Lightmine Field (1/1 tokens + Karona attacking simultaneously can easily kill my commander), but I think I will try it again. Umbra Mystic is also an interesting card, but I am not sure where I have the space for it. Survival has not necessarily been an issue, between Canopy Cover, Shield of the Oversoul, and Gift of Immortality.
Starfield of Nyx is a bit deceptive in its use. On its face, it seems a better card than Opalescence--it only gives you more creatures, and adds graveyard recursion to boot. Well worth the additional mana cost generally. However, one of the key combos in this deck is Enchanted Evening and Calming Verse, which destroys your opponent's boards, while leaving yours untouched. This combo has been incredibly helpful, particularly given how slow this deck is. With Enchanted Evening in play, Starfield of Nyx turns all your lands into 0/0 creatures, preventing you from playing lands for the rest of the game. While Opalescence does the same, it will also turn your opponents lands to 0/0s, stalling the game. It's an evil combo, but it is better than only crippling yourself.
Crab Umbra and Spider Umbra would not be effective in this deck, as Karona rarely is used for blocking (you would have to regain control of her through Homeward Path first). Even with the protection it offers, Drake Umbra is too expensive to cast, and cards like Canopy Cover, Shield of the Oversoul, and Vow of Flight provide the same evasion, but with additional useful effects.
I like Snake Umbra in theory, but am not sure where I would put it. I think this deck currently contains the right number of auras (Bear Umbra might have been one too many, but it seems pretty nifty, so I am going to give it a shot). Any advice you have on what to cut would be appreciated.
1 week ago
Ok. This deck is pretty bad ass. I have a couple comments. Starfield of Nyx and Lightmine Field can be devastating against aggro and Luminarch Ascension is also bad ass with a good pillow fort. Umbra Mystic is fantastic if people keep trying to kill your commander, but even if you aren't worried about that, Indrik Umbra will seriously fuck up the opponent's board, Bear Umbra is ramp everywhere, Crab Umbra is iffy, but maybe in control or against another voltron for surprise blocks, Drake Umbra for flying, Snake Umbra for a little draw and Spider Umbra for some good flying defense.
1 week ago
2 weeks ago
It all makes a lot of sense to me. The only thing I guess I'm hung up on is the Bear Umbra. If it's for the extra buff and for pseudo indestructibility, I'd go with Hyena Umbra, just because it's so much less bulky, and first strike seems to be pretty important for you. Something at 4 mana had better do a whole lot for you. I'm also a little uncertain about the Blackmail still though too. I feel like you're going to want to use your hand disruption more to disrupt their plan on stopping your creatures, and if they have any more than 3 cards in hand, they're not going to show you their trump up their sleeve. It gives them too many options I think.