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Herald of War
Creature — Angel
Flying When Herald of War attacks, put a +1/+1 counter on it. Angel spells and Human spells you cast cost 1 less for each +1/+1 counter on Herald of War.
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Herald of War Discussion
2 weeks ago
I would probably run Austere Command in place of Akroma's Blessing as it is very versatile. Herald of War is a good angel to run in tribal as it makes your angels cost less so you can play more. Mind's Eye is a really good card draw engine for anything outside of blue, would recommend it.
Overall, this gets a definite upvote for the creative use of some not very often seen cards like Belbe's Portal (even though it should always be a necessity for all high cmc tribal decks.
1 month ago
Herald of War Is a pretty solid card for the angel/human tribe
1 month ago
Creatures I would recommend for this deck would include Sigarda, Host of Herons, Linvala, Keeper of Silence, Herald of War and a couple of value angels like Baneslayer Angel or Archangel of Tithes. Angel of Jubilation shuts down a lot of decks that are black or sacrifice intensive.
Instants and sorceries I would include if you want to consistently get Avacyn out include Worldly Tutor, Eladamri's Call, possibly Traverse the Ulvenwald, Green Sun's Zenith and any other similar creature tutors.
Removal in white is really good so things such as Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile are staples in white for commander, if you plan to run Avacyn then some more board wipes would be a good idea (i.e. Hour of Revelation, Austere Command). Decree of Justice while ok is a bit costly in terms of mana. A strictly better card would be Entreat the Angels for the cost of 6 mana into decree you only get 1 angel, for the cost of 5 you get one angel with entreat, and for 6 with miracle you get 4 angels with entreat.
cards to take out include Blessed Light (simply better removal out there), Mirror Gallery (the lack of copy creature spells make this one obsolete in this deck), Untamed Kavu (not enough versatility or utility), Evra, Halcyon Witness (doesn't quite fit into this deck unless there is a combo I am unaware of), Divine Reckoning (better board wipes out there), Marwyn, the Nurturer (not enough elves to fully utilise the ability), Daring Archaeologist (you most likely won't be able to cast enough historic spells to make this guy big enough), Steel Leaf Champion (good beatstick, only problem is the extremely intensive green cost) and at least one land (preferably a land that just enters tapped and does nothing else).
some recommended staples for angel theme would be Grand Abolisher that way people cannot immediately counter or remove your spells, Urza's Incubator, Angels usually have very high mana costs so them costing 2 less is very beneficial. If you are unable to shut down the board entirely with Avacyn and Shalai, there is another solution but I warn you, people who run mono colour will hate it: Iona, Shield of Emeria. A card so obnoxious even I wonder why it hasn't been banned in EDH yet. it is basically night night for mono colour decks and if you can find a way to copy it (Cough Cough Helm of the Host Cough Cough) then your opponents had better pray they have colourless removal or run a colourless deck.
Also needs some card draw too, cards such as Howling Mine or Font of Mythos can help, if you're feeling nice. However if you want to be terrifyingly evil, then use something like Mind's Eye. some card draw spells I would recommend are Harmonize, Greater Good, Rishkar's Expertise and Abundance.
Overall this does seem like it could be potentially the meanest deck at any EDH table, any game featuring angels and/or Avacyn are bound to be very slow and oppressive, the one thing angels are famous for is being oppressive as hell (for reference look at Iona or Linvala). A good number of creatures for angel tribal is 26-29 creatures with about 3 of them being supporting creatures (case example being grand abolisher or eternal witness, maybe an Aven Mindcensor to be even more oppressive) of course the mana dorks can also help as well, in this deck I would say a good number is about 32 creatures with a maximum of 7 supporting units. I am curious as to how oppressive this deck can potentially get in a game. Good Luck finishing this. I can guarantee angel tribal is a very fun thing to do.
2 months ago
For starters, this looks like a fun deck to play. Swarming the board with tokens is always an exciting strategy. I find myself agreeing with ZendikariWol though about swapping commanders. This kind of deck would probably prefer a commander that costs less than 7 because that's a lot.
Also, your mana curve is rather high. Lowering it means you'll have more to play on earlier turns more often.
Here are some cards I might recommend adding:
- Conqueror's Pledge - I heard you liked soldiers
- Captain's Call or Cenn's Enlistment - similar effects, one has more upfront tokens but the other you can cast repeatedly.
- Hero of Bladehold - not a soldier herself but brings friends and buffs all attackers
- Teferi's Protection - token decks are weak to boardwipes. This phases you and all your permanents out of existence letting your token army dodge the removal. Obviously this is expensive, so I think it would depend on your meta
- Sergeant-at-Arms - Makes one soldier early game. Makes 3 soldiers late game
- Daru Warchief - buffs and discounts
- Field Marshal - buffs and first strike
- Veteran's Armaments - essentially a 0 equip cost
Here are some cards I might recommend removing:
- Planar Portal - wow, 12 mana tutor. That's a lot of mana. And you do have Citanul Flute which is similar
- Angelic Arbiter - this prevents you from casting something like Mobilization and then capitalizing on it
- Herald of War - not a soldier, doesn't buff all your non-human soldiers
- Mikaeus, the Lunarch - lots of mana, $5
- Requiem Angel - also not a soldier. Though the tokens are nice, they aren't soldiers, to be fair
- Weathered Wayfarer - I know white doesn't have tons of options for this kind of thing, but this is $14 and seems rather out of place.
2 months ago
I like the deck over all. I think it's pretty neat that your deck has an underlying "angel tribal" sub-theme to it. If you would like to expand that theme a bit then you could focus on more tribal synergies as well, like adding Bruna, the Fading Light and Herald of War. Also in your cat deck you have Herald's Horn and Urza's Incubator which I believe are better suited for this deck.
The big problem I am seeing with this deck overall is that your instants and sorcerys are a bit lacking, especially for red white, and your creature mana curve is really high. Some of the mana problems go away with the amount of rocks you run and if you switch to tribal angels you can use the artifacts and Herald of War to alleviate that a bit. Another problem is that most of your lands enter tapped.
To fix these things you could do as such (if you have the money or desire to):
-Desolation Giant (you're better off with a normal wrath)
-Jareth, Leonine Titan (doesn't have flying or reach which makes him worse)
-Kalemne's Captain (to much mana. If you have enough to monstrous, play an angel)
-Ancient Amphitheater (you wont be running enough giants for this to be worth it)
-Comeuppance (4 drop instant is a lot in this deck)
-Manabarbs (I like the idea, but you will need to tap many more lands than anyone else)
-Loxodon Warhammer (Great card, but not really useful in this high cost deck)
-Tamiyo's Journal (Too slow for this deck)
-Whispersilk Cloak (Most of your creatures already have flying)
+Seraph Sanctuary (life gain is nice & angel synergy)
+Defy Death (5 mana for an angel)
+Marshal's Anthem (anthems and brings back a bunch of creatures)
Other cards you might want to think about:There are plenty of other possible angels to add. The list is to big to add here, so look online if you are interested.
Path to Exile is great if you have a spare.
Wear is good, but it's a couple bucks.
Chaos Warp would be a must add if it wasn't $3.
Wraths are good at slowing down the game for you to catch up. Cards like Hour of Revelation, Day of Judgment, Blasphemous Act, Descend upon the Sinful, Rout, and Fumigate are all pretty good examples.
Vandalblast is a good artifact wrath.
Kindred Boon might be a sweet enchantment to check out.
Gratuitous Violence is right up this decks ally.
Berserkers' Onslaught is pretty cool as well.
Hope this helped.
3 months ago
So, speaking as an Angel fanatic who refuses to give up on the idea of a Modern-competitive Angel-themed deck, there are a few things you have to consider. One is that your CMC is far too high. You'll be killed while having a hand full of cards you're still turns away from casting. You don't have near enough removal, or things you can do early in the game.
First thing you'll probably have to do is come to terms with having some non-Angels in there. I had to, but it doesn't have to break the theme. Thalia, Guardian of Thraben is a servant of the church of Avacyn, and in general a holy warrior, and fits the theme. She's great for slowing up decks, trades well early on, and helps buy you time to bring out the big guns. Knight of the White Orchid is great, as you've seen, and combos well with Emancipation Angel.
Here are a few general thoughts, and I hope they help.
This needs to be changed a ton. Some are redundant, most are too expensive and don't do enough to compete.
Herald of War: This card doesn't do much, although you'd think it'd be helpful. It's a 5-drop, though, so by the time it comes online, you can already cast all the stuff you'd want it to speed up for you. For the same price you could have out Baneslayer Angel or put out something cheaper but generally more effective, like Angel of Jubilation.
Most of your creatures are too expensive and don't do enough. Even Platinum Angel at most stalls out until it can be removed, which is pretty easy to do. I'd ditch that one, and almost all the others. Even my favorite creature in all of Magic: Avacyn, Angel of Hope.
Start by looking at mana costs. If you don't have a 1 CMC creature, then you need at least 2-drops. So start with probably at least 3 (I run 4) Thalia, Guardian of Thraben. Knight of the White Orchid is also good, and if not that, something that disrupts your opponent like Grand Abolisher. Good blockers like low-cost Knights and Soldiers help hold the line until you need to bring out the big guns.
Angel of Jubilation is pretty amazing. Prevents some strategies while buffing your creatures to win battles. Also, that art is unbelievable.
Linvala, Keeper of Silence is also pretty nice. Good body for the cost and she can also shut down some decks almost completely. My Elves hate her, for instance.
For your top end, don't bother with going past 5 CMC, generally. Baneslayer Angel is pretty strong, but so is Sigarda, Host of Herons. You could also use Sigarda, Heron's Grace if you're going with more Humans for your low-level guys.
These can all go. Most are too expensive to put out and equip, and Angels tend to be pretty strong. They don't need many buffs. Your low-level guys could use them, but you'd be better served by putting out more creatures, or having more removal or defensive spells. Spear of Heliod isn't bad, but it's expensive and requires the creature to have done its job of bringing you closer to loss before you can do anything about it.
If you're intent on equipment, the various Swords work, and I'm a fan of Sword of the Animist, which helps you get lands out. I don't know that I'd bother with most of this, though.
Armored Ascension isn't bad if you can get it off, but I'd probably rather just run more Ghostly Prisons or the like. I'm not a big fan of expensive Auras because you can easily get 2-for-1'd trying to put one on. Brave the Sands isn't bad if you have a lot of cheap creatures, especially if they have first strike. For the same cost, Dawn Charm also has a lot of real useful modes.
You need far more removal. Path to Exile is a must. You could also put in Leonin Arbiter to help stuff their ability to benefit from Path or fetches. I'd run 4 Path, for sure. Any number of defensive spells can be good, like Brave the Elements for blocking or swinging through blockers, or Authority of the Consuls to slow down aggro and get you a fair bit of life.
Board sweeps are nice, and if you go GW, Heroic Intervention can help protect your own creatures from them or turn a combat into a complete rout. Settle the Wreckage has a similar drawback to Path, but a lot of Modern decks run few basics, and even if they get a few lands out of it, an entire attacking force being exiled is absolutely crippling. It also combines well with Leonin Arbiter. They could attack all-in, get exiled, and then be wide open to your counterattack. Do that once or twice and soon your opponents will think twice if you have cards in hand and untapped lands. Wrath of God is also great.
At least in the sideboard, Leyline of Sanctity is also amazing. Great devotion if it starts on the field, and when it's good, there's nothing better. Shuts down a lot of discard, burn has a hell of a time with it (especially if their creatures can't get past yours), even mill and general black staples like Thoughtseize get hosed by it.
Take a look at various Modern lists of what the best white spells are. Consider opening up to white/green, which solves a lot of mono-white's issues. Run more removal. Definitely run more low-cost creatures, and stabilize the higher-level lineup. You want more on the low side to help you buy time to bring out a Baneslayer or Angel of Jubilation to help you land a decisive attack. Some sweeps can help you control the board state.
3 months ago
Hey I want to point something out before you spend your money on this and realize what's wrong with your three card combo. There is a difference between just +1/+1 and +1/+1 counters. Herald of War needs +1/+1 counters not just +1/+1. Just FYI if you still don't get the difference. If I play Armored Ascension on on a Herald of War then she becomes a 5/5 But if someone removes that enchantment then she loses the +1/+1. She now is a 4/4 again. But she still has a +1/+1 counter. The +1/+1 counter is permanent unless someone has a permanent removal spell. All in all to say. Her ability does not work unless the cards say +1/+1 counter. I don't mean to come off rude injustice ant you to see something before you accidentally spend your money then realize that the combo doesn't work.