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Avacyn, Angel of Hope Discussion
2 hours ago
Severein What do you think of running Planar Cleansing in both the B/Ws? I was thinking of burying Avacyn, Angel of Hope with something like Buried Alive or Entomb to make it more viable to bring her back the turn I want to use Planar Cleansing. I also had an idea of running Angel of Serenity as well for some more recursion things and dumping her into Vish to bring back 3 things from other people's GY or my own.
15 hours ago
the truth is...kaalia is one of a few commanders that makes others at the table uneasy...yes she is killed / countered by anything known to man...but that does not stop the fact that the kaalia player will have crosshairs on them from the get go. I used to have a kaalia deck that I used to a 50/50 success rate. there were times where I would cast her and nobody would have an answer in hand, and then came out the big beats. Her price tag is similar to Avacyn, Angel of Hope, which I have yet to see being hard casted, but guess what? lil sister hovers close to the $30 price tag as well.
in short, her price tag is higher because she is an immediate threat that must be removed the turn she comes out, or more than likely that player will win within the next 4-5 turns....that is why I would consider her top tier. "dies to removal / can be countered" is about as good of an argument as saying the sky is blue...yes the statement is true, but you better have the counter / removal in hand, or its hayday for you
20 hours ago
From those I have to say Advent of the Wurm
1 day ago
I dig for my exile spells whenever someone in my group has white in their deck so I can deal with their eventual Avacyn, Angel of Hope. Riku of Two Reflections is counter or kill immediately or suffer the copy shenanigans of Terastodon, Phyrexian Ingester, Glen Elendra Archmage, and other nasties.
1 day ago
Metasyntactic Thank you, and yes your right, and in the next week or so you will see a new deck I make with Kaalia of the Vast as my commander, or Aurelia, the Warleader but yes your right those two definitely will make me a better commander deck then this by far, I have a red/black deck that I definitely plan to mix with this deck when my Kaalia of the Vast arrives. But you are right there have been games where I dont get Avacyn, Angel of Hope out for awhile seeing most angels are stupid expensive! I am pretty stoked to get my Kaalia of the Vast if only the post office was quicker at delivering :( My next deck with Kaalia of the Vast will be much better then this deck, it will probably be the last deck I make for awhile seeing it will be pretty disgusting strong.
1 day ago
almalong: I love Conspiracy! It gives you access to some of the best cards in EDH, including Avacyn, Angel of Hope and others. My personal favorite was to swing with Conspiracy out, opponent doesn't declare blockers, then proceed to transform Scion into Blightsteel Colossus or Phage the Untouchable. Instant death.
That being said, keeping Conspiracy in play was a real chore. Play groups will immediately gang up on you if they see that card cast. If you do run it, I suggest running Privileged Position, Sterling Grove, or something similar that gives your enchantments Hexproof/ Shroud.
I ultimately took out the Conspiracy and most of the non-Dragon creatures. I felt the deck was trying to do too much, so I streamlined the deck to make it more efficient. I wish you the best of luck building your brother's deck. Scion has always been my favorite EDH general. I'm sure your brother will like him too.
1 day ago
Severein There are some good ones as well like Bloodghast/Gravecrawler etc, I had thoughts on putting the new FTF Mardu Strike Leader in there as well. Bloodsoaked Champion as well because you can just keep bringing them back that Mardu card could be really nasty for this it's almost constant tokens if I play it right.
With the Grand Abolisher thing yea definitely a lot better to get it countered I think I'm more worried about getting cards Exiled during my turn like for example I play Avacyn, Angel of Hope with a decent amount of creatures on the board but there's some creatures my opponents have ready to block or something that are a lot tougher than mine if someone plays an Exile on Avacyn then Avacyn's ability is gone but then again that's something that could kinda be covered under the protections thing with Sword of Light and Shadow or Lightning Greaves. So there are some situations that it could be handy but yea generally not so yea now I've thought about you're definitely right about it.
1 day ago
Severein Ah so I read it wrong lol that would be horrible if it worked that way though, but irregardless doesn't seem too bad.
Thing with Grand Abolisher though is that it can be such a great utility card so no one can do anything to you in your turn but yea he is easily removed with a simple Exile lol or Destroy Creature card or minus counters. The reason I liked him though was because I couldn't get countered bringing in ETB effect creatures or creatures in general like Ashen Rider or Angel of Despair, Avacyn, Angel of Hope or even Grave Titan as examples. Even protects me against Exiles in my turn. But yea if you think I should get rid of him I'll definitely do it.
I think even having something like Mogis's Marauder in here to give haste/intimidate could potentially help with the win con of tokens/creatures if Vish fails what do you think?
That's the only one I question I agree with everything else you said.
With the recursion thing I feel it could be a necessity though if I'm running Token generators that are specifically creatures if I lose the big ones like Bloodline Keeper Flip/Grave Titan etc from board wipes then I have nothing to sac towards Vish. Tokens are gone forever but those creatures can keep coming back with GY play. The way I saw the recursion kinda stuff in here as well was I can sac creatures like Ashen Rider/Angel of Despair/Grave Titan for counters to Vish and keep bringing them back for their ETB effects. If I bury them as well with various means I can bring them back for free too with recursion cards like Debtors' Knell/Sheoldred, Whispering One etc so stuff like Buried Alive/Entomb/Beacon of Unrest that you run in your B/W aren't too bad. Sheoldred, Whispering One is one of the sorta constant recursion cards in here her sac ability won't really do much with Dictate of Erebos and Grave Pact. That's just my thought on it. Like I'm not disagreeing with you but yea I kinda screw myself over if I don't have some recursion because Vish won't have anything to bolster himself with. There's a lot of decent token generators but they're mainly creatures. If I get board wiped I lose the ability to give him anything to chow down on. I like the GY play because it's very befitting for the whole Sorin theme.
I'm listening to what you're saying btw but yea the recursion thing just sounds odd to remove especially with the only token generators in here being creatures. Can you explain what you mean?
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- Armageddon + Avacyn, Angel of Hope
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Obliterate
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Novablast Wurm
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Magus of the Disk
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Nevinyrral's Disk
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- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Blasphemous Act + Repercussion
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- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Sigarda, Host of Herons
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Eldrazi Conscription
- Ajani, Caller of the Pride + Avacyn, Angel of Hope
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Enchanted Evening + Serenity
- Akroma's Vengeance + Avacyn, Angel of Hope
- Akroma's Vengeance + Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Harvester of Souls
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Spirit en-Dal
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Riding Red Hare
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Phyrexian Rebirth
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Fated Retribution
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Palisade Giant
- Archetype of Endurance + Avacyn, Angel of Hope
- Asceticism + Avacyn, Angel of Hope
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Iona, Shield of Emeria
- Archetype of Endurance + Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Sigarda, Host of Herons
- Angel of Finality + Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Worldslayer
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Planar Cleansing
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Day of Judgment
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts
- Asceticism + Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Champion of Stray Souls
- Armageddon + Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Worldslayer
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Rout
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Privileged Position
- Aerie Mystics + Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Sigarda, Host of Herons
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Wrath of God
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Defense of the Heart + Worldspine Wurm
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Empyrial Archangel + Vigor
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Rite of Replication
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Putrid Imp + Reanimate
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Ink-Treader Nephilim + Polymorph
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Cleansing Meditation + Enchanted Evening
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Platinum Angel
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Duneblast
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Martial Coup
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Elvish Piper
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Empyrial Archangel
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Mirror Gallery
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Bearer of the Heavens + Defense of the Heart
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Planar Collapse
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + End Hostilities
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Hundred-Handed One
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Weathered Bodyguards
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Veteran Bodyguard
- Aegis of the Gods + Archetype of Endurance + Avacyn, Angel of Hope
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Mageta the Lion
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Oblivion Stone
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Platinum Emperion
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Kira, Great Glass-Spinner
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Minion of the Wastes + Phyrexian Processor
- Alesha, Who Smiles at Death + Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Kaalia of the Vast