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Fist of Suns
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Fist of Suns Discussion
1 week ago
Don't forget that you need the gauntlet ie. Fist of Suns. I have been wondering if it was possible to build a concept like this.
2 weeks ago
yup cdkime is correct.
Jodah and Fist of Suns do not alter the card in any way. They change what you have to pay for it. An Etched Oracle would work with them, because it cares what is PAYED for it and not what color it is. But Ramos only cares about the cards colors
2 weeks ago
So Jodah, Archmage Eternal and Fist of Suns have the exact same rules text as far as casting spells with the 5 colors. Does this mean that they have the same effect on Ramos, Dragon Engine? There seems to be a disagreement in our playgroup over this and given they are worded the exact same i don't see why they both would not work the same for Ramos' +1/+1 ability. I know that the counters are dependent on the spells CMC but they should work the same.
3 weeks ago
This is fantastic. I'm so happy you made this. I also have some suggestions for good 3+ color spells:
- Crackling Doom
- Knotvine Mystic
- Fiery Justice
- Guided Passage
- Trap Essence
- Violent Ultimatum
- Punish Ignorance
- Siege Rhino
- Giltspire Avenger
- Skyward Eye Prophets
- Jodah, Archmage Eternal (in place of Fist of Suns)
and finally, Urza, Academy Headmaster. :)
You have a great deck here. I'll probably make some minor changes and pick it up for myself.
1 month ago
anyways, I doubt Apex of Power is going to see competitive play to be frank. Wildfire Eternal, Jodah, Archmage Eternal and Fist of Suns decks might find some uses for it. But as far as competitive standard or modern, nah, I don't think so.
The only modern deck that really wants this card is Red Deck Wins, but they won't get that kind of mana to ever play it.
1 month ago
You can use double square brackets around a card's name to create a pop-up. It's the easiest way to make sure everyone understands what's going on with your question. Fist of Suns, Ramos, Dragon Engine
They don't have any special interaction. The colors of a spell just depend on the mana symbols printed in its cost, plus any other effects that specifically change its colors (Purelace, the Devoid ability, etc.). The mana you spend to cast the spell doesn't matter. A Llanowar Elves cast with through Fist of Suns will still only be Green, and Ramos will only get one +1/+1 counter.
1 month ago
If you want to add green so you can have access to more broken and protective things, I would suggest a commander that has all 5 colors in its color identity. With the release of the Dominaria set, the obvious choice is Jodah, Archmage Eternal because he's basically Fist of Suns on a stick. Since planeswalkers are legendary now and governed only by the 'legendary rule' at this time, another few cards you might want to make room for might be Captain Sisay, Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain, and Thran Temporal Gateway. If you're going to use The Chain Veil to abuse planeswalker abilities, you should also consider Teferi, Temporal Archmage. The one card that's going to become your worst nightmare against this deck will be The Immortal Sun, so watch out for that. If you want to shut down token decks, the best (and funniest) way to do it is with Leyline of Singularity.
@CivilisedSin is right about Oaths. The newest ones, Oath of Teferi and Oath of Ajani is REALLY good, and so are proliferate effects. Things that move counters around are always fun too, especially if you plan to put Sagas from the new Dominaria set in your deck. You also need more global creature destruction in order to keep your walkers alive longer. I hope I've given you enough pointers to get you started on thinking where you actually want to go with this deck. The only other thing I would say is keep both Narsets, but less creature stuff and more noncreature stuff. Not only will this help you stay more stabilized in the face of board wipes, including your own, but it also gives you room for more of the things your deck wants to play with, as well as give you more ridiculous turns from swinging at people with your Narset, Enlightened Master.
Beyond that, just make the deck your own. Shape it to a feel that best suits the way you like to play it.
1 month ago
your lowest cost green creature for Green Sun's Zenith is your Maelstrom Archangel. certainly a good target, but unfortunately it'll likely be the "only" target. also curious why you didn't include Bringer of the Black Dawn or Fist of Suns.