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Omniscience Discussion

psionictemplar on The Suspense is Killing You

4 days ago

Here is the more combo like version. I will say it's a pretty rough draft, but this is just to give you an idea of what I was considering . You'll want to customize it to best suit you and your meta.

4x Jhoira of the Ghitu

1x Blightsteel Colossus

3x Emrakul, the Aeons Torn

1x Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur

1x Stormtide Leviathan

1x Tidespout Tyrant

4x Talisman of Creativity

4x Pentad Prism

4x Izzet Signet

3x Flood of Tears

3x Omniscience

4x Lightning Bolt

4x Serum Visions

4x Steam Vents

4 Sulfur Falls

12x Island


glintzy on Draw cards, make +1+1 counters, feed Ezuri

1 week ago

Here's a list to consider. Some are expensive, some will make you lose friends, and some are just jank.

In terms of extra mana production, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger and Mana Reflection are always fun.

If you want to draw cards, Alhammarret's Archive is vital if you pair it with draw engines like Finale of Revelation or Pull from Tomorrow.

Some board control can come in the form of Cyclonic Rift

Some other funny creatures to include might be Archetype of Endurance, Protean Hulk, Progenitor Mimic, Beguiler of Wills (as long as you have enough creatures), and Seedborn Muse (there's more that's just a few)

If you're needing more token generation, Avenger of Zendikar can provide that (however brief), and it has a similar effect to Mycoloth (which you have already), and that gets plain dumb when you pair it with ETB-affected cards like Kapsho Kitefins (and it buffs Ezuri when you have token doublers on field). Also Ezuri gets really happy when you Clone Legion someone with a bunch of tiny tokens on their field

Also if you want to Omniscience and Planar Bridge are kind of unfair (but that's a good thing)

and finally, one of my favourite combos to this day...

Stormtide Leviathan and Archetype of Imagination (together they lock opponents out of attacking)

gavriel1136 on Brian Stacks' Over 1,700 Infinite Combos (EDH)

1 week ago

Maybe I'm missing something, but some of these combos don't seem to work. What does Intruder Alarm, Presence of Gond, and Sliver Queen do? Neither the Elf token nor the Queen share a creature type.

Or what about Omniscience, Dream Stalker, and Sprouting Vines? How does that accomplish anything? Stalker bounces something back to your own hand, then you search for a land?

There are others, but I'm really scratching my head here.

Omniscience_is_life on Uses for Tapped Out.

2 weeks ago

I joined T/O originally for the sole purpose of building a Tezzeret brawl deck that wanted to fetch Omniscience with his Ultimate ability (hence my name). Now I use the site to see what people are up to in the MTG community, and to build a lot of random EDH decks with silly names. It's a lot of fun.

defamagraphy1 on How Much Does the 2ndAry …

3 weeks ago

Omniscience Haha oh yeah man, there's a ton of money from this going around. MtG is worldwide. I have a friend in Japan that showed me what the room for the Pro Tour was like and what some of the card shops over there have. It was crazy!

No. Wizards is not losing money and the same time they are. This is why they keep making so much product. Printing one single card costs wizards .10 cents Now, each sheet has 121 cards printed on it. This roughly comes out to $12 dollars per sheet. Now factor in the cards in a box. 32 boosters x 15 that's 480 cards so roughly 4 sheets at cost of 48 dollars per box. Wholesale purchase from Wizards is a little over $90 so they're ONLY doubling their money on each box sold. If they sell for higher to retailers, retailers increase price, then players lose interest and it will literally cost Wizards money as they will lose demand on sealed product.

Now consider this. Not everyone plays Standard. Not every player will buy cards from a new set. This means that Wizards has already lost money on a box they've printed, and the more interest players put into older cards through eternal formats and modern, the more money they lose on new sets printed.

Now consider the secondary market. People who look to profit off Magic as they do will only buy so much to net money off of and then stop selling. This stops purchases on sealed product. Not everyone has an indispensable budget to use on Magic. So more players will literally buy only singles through that secondary market rather than directly from Wizards. Some players will not play the expensive high demand decks due to budget concerns, which will slow the secondary market demand, which slows the demand for buying sealed product. Most players will literally build only one or two decks, and a handful of boosters during standard due to cost and that's it. Slowing secondary market. Slowing the need to purchase sealed product.

When players in eternal formats or older formats need only one or two cards printed from a set and don't play standard this stops card demand which stops the secondary market which stops the need to buy sealed product. This is also why standard is seeing more insane cards being printed, more players have left standard due to the expensive cost to keep up with rotation and moved over to pioneer or modern, or commander, so to keep interest in purchasing new sealed product, the have to print higher power levels of cards to work in those formats to keep sealed product being purchased. Because some players in older formats will stick with the same deck for a long long time and make very little changes to it. This stops the secondary market, which stops sealed product purchases.

The secondary market directly affects Wizards, and since more players have moved to those older formats, the older out of print cards start to go in much higher demand, and driving up the prices. Without them being in print, Wizards isn't selling sealed product. All of it equals money loss. This is why the Modern Masters sets have been printed. Sealed product goes out to meet player demand through the Secondary Market.

The thing missing here is outside of draft play the majority of sales that Wizards makes is through secondary market resale. At $90 ish per box, with a printed cost of $48 per box.

For Wizards to continue being a business, they HAVE to make money, especially with Hasbro at the helm. If they don't net profit Wizards shuts down, and bye bye MTG

Value of cards is speculated through buzz going around about the card and will flucate through set demand. People want to make money off the cards, and sometimes will set prices crazily because of greed, but whole sets do not sell, so at some point secondary sellers will stop purchasing sealed product, due to lack of demand. At some point Wizards has to stop printing a set due to this low demand. Theros Beyond Death is a good example, outside of a small handful of cards, the set was not in high demand, and did poorly. Due to less sales Wizards of course stops printing, this allows the secondary markets to take advantage of the small amount of better cards circulating. If a card with an outrageous power level is being outwardly complained about enough, Wizards will start considering bans once they've reached their quota. Lets say they produce 1000 boxes, the set does bad and only 200 boxes go out into circulation. Another 100 get sat on allowing for zero need to purchase. At a cost of $48 dollars per box, they spent 48,000 to produce the batch and selling only 300 with no additional sales at $90 per box they got back 27,000 dollars in sales which means they eat a production loss of 21,000 dollars.

That is Wizards lirerally losing money.

Now, this is where printing insane cards come in, if they continue to make really really good cards, people will continue to be interested and then there's product flow. BUT, if s format truly becomes warped, players quit then there's no product flow. If the set sucks overall like THB, sales stop, no product flow. So they have to maintain balance.

I once again have to iterate that Wizards is not a company throwing away money just to make players happy. They have to make money, to keep getting paid, so they can eat and have lives like everyone else and their stock holders lose interest, no more Magic.

Hasbro bought Wizards in order for the toy company to stay afloat in changing times, it was a smart move as selling toys has died out. Look at Toy's R Us closing down. So this is why we are at where we're at.

And literally all of this stems directly from the players and deck demands.

Jsu on Abzan Nyx Fit

3 weeks ago

Is Academy Rector the key for Omniscience?

Feiryn on

4 weeks ago

The first thing that comes to mind reading through this list are your lands. I'm unsure what your budget is like, but if you wanted to spend a bit I recommend cutting basics for shocks like Steam Vents. You also have tri-lands such as Mystic Monastery when they can be replaced by triomes like Raugrin Triome, though this mainly benefits you if/when you pick up a set of fetches.

I'm unsure about Mana Echoes, Omniscience, and Sunbird's Invocation. Mana Echoes is good for tribal in general but since you're playing Tazri your creature types all over the place, and I'd recommend just running a dork or rock in its place. I assume you plan on cheating Omniscience and Sunbird's Invocation out via Zur, but without targeted tutors you'll most likely not draw into him consistently so those cards will be dead in your hand.

With how much graveyard recursion you have why not add Entomb, Buried Alive, or even Jarad's Orders? They could help with consistency quite a bit. At the very least you should replace Mythos of Brokkos with one as UBGG is far too rigid for its effect.

Since you don't have non-basic fetchlands and your only landfall is Moraug, Fury of Akoum, I recommend cutting Ramunap Excavator and replacing them with a dork instead.

I don't think Ramos, Dragon Engine fits very well into the deck either. While WUBRG helps with his effect, you have a very high CMC and don't have counter manipulation so I feel he'd be better off being replaced with something else.

Hopefully those give you a few ideas. I haven't played Tazri before so I don't know a lot about what her decklists often look like, but after a brief lookthrough with her general idea in mind those are my thoughts!

Matrixxx999 on Somebody Stop Me! v. 2.0

4 weeks ago


Hi! And thanks for the advice!

I will definitely consider your suggestions. One thing you are right, relying on only Omniscience and shenanigans with it is too risky. So, that's why I'm always on the lookout for good backup plans. Especially considering that Flash was banned. Right now I am considering using Bolas's Citadel as another winning condition wtih cards like Sensei's Divining Top, Necropotence and Etherium Sculptor and I have one idea in mind with Bolas's Citadel, but first, beforehand, it needs to be tested. As soon as I'm ready, I'll add it to the description. Moreover, the deck needs updating for a long time.

As for the Blood Moon, I have to agree that this card does a lot of damage to this deck, but I have been playing against those who use the Blood Moon for a long time and have learned to bypass its bloody influence.

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