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, Pay 1 life, Sacrifice Flooded Strand: Search your library for a Plains or Island card and put it onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library.
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Flooded Strand Discussion
4 days ago
2 weeks ago
I see you've got a Crucible of Worlds handy so you can reuse the lands you sacrifice, like Wasteland and Buried Ruin, but you could add so much more potential to that combo by also throwing in Arid Mesa, Flooded Strand, Marsh Flats, and Windswept Heath. Having these lands (even in a mono-colored deck) is like having four lands that each take up two slots in your library, meaning you'll have a better chance to draw the lands you need when you need them. And here's the best part: If you happen to have your Crucible of Worlds in play by the time any of these bad boys hit the graveyard, you'll have a guaranteed one mana per turn; not having to worry about having enough lands is so worth it.
2 weeks ago
You've got a lot of stuff here helping you pump up your mana base, but have you considered throwing in a Crucible of Worlds?
Right now you've got Arid Mesa, Buried Ruin, Flooded Strand, Ghost Quarter, Inventors' Fair, Kjeldoran Outpost, Marsh Flats, Wasteland, and Windswept Heath. That's nine lands that all have the potential for you to sacrifice them and Crucible would allow you to continually reuse them!
Another suggestion might be Extraplanar Lens, but you've only got 12 Plains to work with, and you run the risk of doubling an opponent's mana more often than your own if they're also running white. The best way to solve this, if you do decide take this route, would be to definitely have Crucible of Worlds so you can reuse your fetch lands to grab those basic Plains wherever they might be in your deck, and also to replace your regular Plains with Snow-Covered Plains so your opponents don't benefit from the mana-doubling effect!
3 weeks ago
also you can change the other fetch woth cheaper alternative fetch..
1 month ago
So, first thoughts: it looks good! Very cohesive, good selection of reanimation, good targets to put in graveyard, etc. This is quite a bit better than my first EDH deck was, so kudos XD
With that being said, there are several places I might tune this deck, sorted into the rough categories below:
Removal/Interaction: Toxic Deluge is an amazing board wipe in EDH, almost unquestionably better than Damnation here (you can tailor it to miss your commander, too!). Beast Within is one of the best removal spells in the format, along with Nature's Claim and Assassin's Trophy: I'd try and include all three. Maybe might run a few counterspells such as Swan Song/Counterspell/Muddle the Mixture, but that's more of a taste thing: do you want your deck to be more slow and grindy and controlling, or more aggressive where it primarily uses its removal to deal with specific problems? You could also add Lightning Greaves, which is an amazing way to give protection and haste to your commander.
Other targets for reanimation: Sewer Nemesis maybe? I might actually NOT run Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger here, I'm not convinced he does enough to warrant being reanimated when you have other targets like Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur laying around. I'd also work on cutting down on SOME of these, since they're pretty much dead in your hand: do you really NEED Ghoultree as a vanilla 10/10 that's only good when exiled by your commander? Et cetera ;)
Other good methods of self-mill: The new set gave us various Surveil cards (particularly Doom Whisperer, run him, he's awesome). Beyond that, Mesmeric Orb (hey, convenient that you have one!), Underrealm Lich, Sidisi, Brood Tyrant, maybe Fraying Sanity? I'd check out the Sidisi list I texted to you, it has some good ones. I'd also use Glimpse the Unthinkable here, probably.
Other great reanimation spells: Exhume, Dance of the Dead, Dread Return, Victimize. Your deck isn't a token deck, so Whisper, Blood Liturgist isn't amazing here, but Hell's Caretaker might do the trick. Final Parting is a MUST, given that you can tutor Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur into GY and Reanimate/Animate Dead into hand.
Landbase tuning: For what it's worth, there's a strong argument for running ZERO basics here (despite increased vulnerability to Blood Moon/Back to Basics/Ruination) for the instant mill combo with Hermit Druid. But if you're gonna do that, or even if you're not, you want less lands that will enter the battlefield tapped (and/or to include Amulet of Vigor). Beyond that, Songs of the Damned is an AWESOME card in this deck, and Ramunap Excavator is silly here obviously. I'd also play the five allied fetchlands (Wooded Foothills, Polluted Delta, Windswept Heath, Flooded Strand, and Bloodstained Mire) and the three appropriate shocklands (Breeding Pool, Watery Grave, and Overgrown Tomb). In a 3-color deck, I'd remove most utility lands (excluding Rogue's Passage and Cephalid Coliseum, maybe one or two more), and primarily work on fixing your colors and having lands come in untapped. The other major lands I'd say you're missing are City of Brass, Reflecting Pool, and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. You can probably cut down to 36 lands, which can open a slot or two.
I'd say that the most natural cuts would be Fleet Swallower, Ghoultree, It That Betrays, Laboratory Maniac, Master Biomancer, Reyhan, Last of the Abzan, Taigam, Sidisi's Hand, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger, Chill of Foreboding, Damnation, Sultai Ascendancy, and two lands. After that point, cutting gets hard.
I hope that helps!! :)
1 month ago
@girlyvader If you're having troubles with consistency in your mana-base there are ways too improve it, however it's not always cheap to do so. Having all 3 OG dual lands and shock lands help out a lot, but to complete the package you'll definitely want to include the other 5 fetch-lands: Flooded Strand, Polluted Delta, Scalding Tarn, Windswept Heath and Wooded Foothills, as these can all search for your dual lands and provide greater consistency.
That said they are still rather expensive, but there are some cheaper inclusions that I would argue fit in just as well. Those cards being the match-lands: Isolated Chapel, Dragonskull Summit, and Clifftop Retreat as well as the filter lands: Graven Cairns, Fetid Heath, and Rugged Prairie. These lands are much cheaper and have done an excellent job color fixing my deck as well as reliably entering untapped. Furthermore Ash Barrens plays excellently with getting colored mana the turn you need it and Path of Ancestry while meant to be used in tribal decks reads exactly like a second Nomad Outpost that occasionally might let you scry off your commander. Both those two lands will greatly improve your access to colored mana.
Lastly if indestructible weenies are giving you grief I'd recommend in adding Slaughter the Strong. It won't remove all the creatures but it will remove armies and big creatures as well as by-pass indestructible as this wipe forces the creatures to be sacrificed. Toxic Deluge can also work in the same manner as well.
I normally run into all kinds of problematic situations in the various play-groups I've played in, so if something is giving you problems I might know of a few good solutions for it.
1 month ago
Hey I am sorry for the lack of updates recently but I now put in 4 Flooded Strand, yet I still have the problem that I only have 20 lands in the deck :(
Any suggestions for cards to remove for additional lands?
1 month ago
Really, it would be around tier 4 this build. I imagine a better version going with a more consistent stax plan that happens to run a few key enchantments, instead of this could even be tier 2.5, but the commander would be all but a major part of the deck.
If you want a real enchantment-based build, use Earthcraft and Squirrel Nest, drop the Enchanted Evening/Aura Thief, Starfield of Nyx, Sigil of the Empty Throne, and Solemnity/Phyrexian Unlife/Solemnity/Decree of Silence. You should run Altar of the Brood as support for both the earthcraft combo and Opalescence/Parallax Wave.
The other drops you should have are cards like Cultivate and Kodama's Reach, because they are bad cards and shouldn't be run in any non-landfall deck, Cleansing Meditation because it is bad, and Skyshroud Claim. Pendrell Mists is too much mana for this deck to handle, as is Omniscience, despite its power in some decks.
Leyline of Anticipation is weak for its mana cost, and is abd draw, only semi useful when in openning hand, but even then it isn't great.
Land Tax is a bad card, honestly unless you are monowhite or in a deck that benefits from discarding cards, it isn't worth it. The thinning is the best it does, and a card in your deck that thins only is trash. If it is used to help you hit land drops, your deck is either A: Not in need of land, or B: Awfully built or was mulliganned poorly.
Now the next part is on what to add. I talked about dropping around 27 cards, so there is some room. I would drop around 3 lands at least as well, which leaves us with a clean 30 cards to add.
Now, we'll add the cards I previously talked about, Altar of the Brood, Earthcraft, and Squirrel Nest. These help you win the game after we dropped a lot of your previous wincons. Greater Auramancy is also a card I prior suggested, and helps stop a Nature's Claim kill you. 26 cards left to go.
The next is to replace the lands we dropped. You want mana fast, so you can empty your hand, and use Tuvasa to draw more cards, aiming to hit a real enchantress or tutor for one. This means two things, more tutors, and more ramp.
Wild Growth, Utopia Sprawl, Overgrowth, and Fertile Ground help benefit Earthcraft when used to make more mana on combo turn, especially with an Opalescence out. Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Sol Ring, Chrome Mox, Mox Diamond, and Lotus Petal allow the deck to get more mana faster as well. This leaves 16 cards.
Teferi's Protection, Swan Song, Flusterstorm, Seal Away, Ravages of War, Force of Will, Nature's Claim, Armageddon, and Cast Out are efficient pieces of interaction I would suggest. This leaves 4 cards.
Nature's Chosen is a card I have found success in, and suggest you try it too. Enchanting a Tuvasa makes it another land in essence, and can untap a Serra's Sanctum, it is under the radar, so pick it up before all of the Emmara, Soul of the Accord players find out about it. That is it!
After looking through, the following lands are must drops, as they aren't good in nearly any deck:
They don't have a place in this deck.
Similarly, you should optimize your deck to get your colors more on curve, fetchlands being a major part of that. Wooded Foothills, Flooded Strand, Polluted Delta, Misty Rainforest, Scalding Tarn, Verdant Catacombs, Arid Mesa, and Marsh Flats are the missing ones in your colors. You can use them to fetch the shock/dual lands for colors, or basics for Back to Basics/Earthcraft.
Wooded Bastion, Flooded Grove, and Yavimaya Hollow should be dropped as well to fit them, as well as Brushland for Razorverge Thicket, Adarkar Wastes for City of Brass, Hinterland Harbor for Mana Confluence, Glacial Fortress for Exotic Orchard, and one of each basic because you have too many lands.
That's it. That would actually be a tier 3 enchantress deck, and doesn't stoop to just playing Tuvasa for colors for a stax-combo deck, running no enchantments.