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Exile a creature you control: Add X mana of any one color to your mana pool, where X is the exiled creature's converted mana cost plus one. Spend this mana only to cast creature spells.
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Food Chain Discussion
2 days ago
Tainted Pact is a card that first seems like an obvious pick for a deck that wants to rush into its "one-card" combo (Gitrog + Dakmor Salvage) as soon as possible, but unfortunately it really isn't that great here as the combo has so many moving parts in it. The deck also relies heavily on these moving parts, which is why exiling combo pieces can be a real pain if not a complete blowout.
Flipping a Kozilek is the main deal breaker as you never want to exile him, and to add he's more or less a completely dead draw. Furthermore, assuming we hit Dakmor it's another must-keep, even though it has at least some use outside of the combo. And finally, if we have any part of the combo in exile (which almost certainly will happen when we dig more than a dozen cards with Pact), we never ever want to exile our one-of Riftsweeper as then we lose access to the pieces permanently.
I will admit that I haven't counted the numbers on the odds of flipping these pieces, but seeing as there are potentially several cards that you will almost never want to flip off of Pact, it really has some bad blood with this sort of deck to be a viable tutor candidate (unlike in a deck that dives to their combo piece head-first or has several one-card wincons like Food Chain Prossh or Doomsday/Shimmer Myr Zur respectively).
Thanks for the recommendation though, it's not something that has been asked before so it's a good card to be discussed about.
3 days ago
1 week ago
slim_chanc3 - I can definitely give it a go, the cost reduction seems legit too in the event that Animar is taxed into oblivion. I have a very very hard time finding cuts anymore, I may try dropping Food Chain to test it out. Do you (or anyone really) have any other suggestions on cuts?
1 week ago
i think that norin does it better :/ and yea krenko has very little recursion and norin, slobad and daretti usually play with chaos better, it certainly makes it harder for you to burn out to run chaos but i already have a nekusar and norin chaos deck and i just wanted more colors, this deck has the advantage of Regrowth spells, token doublers and insane mana like Food Chain, plus its more versatile with spells such as Heroic Intervention
i played a 1v1 game recently where i played my entire deck by casting a conspired Genesis Wave for 9, getting more than 10 permanents and putting a Past in Flames in graveyard, I then conspired Tooth and Nail to get the 4 6-7 cmc creatures into play with 8x tokens with all 3 token doublers out, i then saced protean hulk to tutor for Craterhoof Behemoth with Coat of Arms out and a total of 380 tokens for 760 power and toughness,
i then sacced around 20 tokens for mana, drew all 20 cards left in my deck with Fecundity, then used the mana to cast past in flames and conspire/Mirari every spell in my deck as well as having all of my creatures etb with purphoros and 8x tokens, come to think of it i could have easily have won with Altar of the Brood for 380 tokens plus the 22 creatures and wort
its more resilient and even faster than krenko in that it has green protectiom and conspired ramp spells, it is a hybrid deck that plays partially like krenko and partially like a storm deck, for example krenko cant cast Empty the Warrens for absurd amounts of mana and double the tokens and mana with green
2 weeks ago
I have a Food Chain (not listed in my online trade lists). Most interested in Grim Monolith. My binder on here is out dated, but my deckbox tradelist is mostly current (i build and edit decks without editing trade lists).
Interested in other cards, but need the grim for new colorless edh deck i'm building.
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
I have not playtested the deck quite yet, but I feel like the ramp package is a little bit light? I mean, most of 4c decks run most of the Talismans and Signets they can, and it really helps getting more explosive/faster plays, especially when you have access to all the draw/tutor UB can provide.
I don't quite like Wood Elves and Elvish Spirit Guide. Sure, it is Food Chainfodder, but still, it costs 3 mana, a little bit high for Ad Nauseamcompared to the utility they can give. I think you would be better running all the 1cmc dorks (I can see Arbor Elf, Boreal Druid are missing). I know maybe it is a budget concern, but I also see that ABUR Duals have been left out, but they are really important to help fixing the mana base, especially in a 4c deck like this, and they are really great with Arbor Elf.
TL;DR The ramp package is what I like the less here; Cut Elvish Spirit Guide and Wood Elves for Arbor Elfand Boreal Druid. Add the signets and talismans available in your colors. Fix your mana base by adding ABUR duals. You are in the right path with this deck, it simply misses some little things I have mentionned to be truly optimized IMO.