Crucible of Worlds
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Crucible of Worlds Discussion
18 hours ago
Thanks for the comments, guys! I didn't expect any so soon, so you guys rock! Its still in the early stages of being put together, and I'll have to make some orders to get things in, but I had a handful of things to start with.
Snacrifice, I had Grasslands written down on my list, I just forgot to get it on here. Thanks for mentioning it. Doubling Season and Crucible of Worlds are out; not paying $120 for two cards right now. Maybe later....much later. But, what is the name of this new card from Hour of Devastation???? I may need to jump on one of those early.
Now, for the really big question I'm needing answered: what should my land ratio be? I'm thinking with Titania, Protector of Argoth's abilities, it has to be on the higher than normal side, with enough lands that can get rid of themselves and then basics to use the other ETB effects. What do you guys think? With the way it sits now, I've probably only got 8 slots left to fill.
1 day ago
Crucible of Worlds is in now way budget, but it's amazing. THere's a new card in hour of Devastation that's a creature and green but does the same thing :P
Some land suggestions, some better than others:Blighted WoodlandWintermoon MesaCentaur GardenCradle of the AccursedDust BowlEncroaching WastesFoundry of the ConsulsGargoyle CastleGhost QuarterGrasping DunesHaunted FengrafHavenwood BattlegroundHickory Woodlot Petrified Field Spawning Bed Tectonic Edge Terminal MoraineThrone of the High CityTimberland RuinsWarped LandscapeDryad Arbor
Looks like a great deck :D
1 day ago
Why don't you play any Crucible of Worlds? I would definitely use that as a main piece in any pox deck
2 days ago
How do you find Quicksilver Amulet and Belbe's Portal work for you? I recently added Extraplanar Lens, Gauntlet of Power, Caged Sun, and Crucible of Worlds route and have been pretty happy with it. I was thinking they may be a little slow actually.
In my experimenting with Marshal's Anthem in the past it always ends up a dead card in hand for me. Does it work for you? Have you tried Emeria Shepherd, Reya Dawnbringer, or Dawnbreak Reclaimer? Emeria is incredible with fetch lands. Yet I frequently find that there isn't anything yet in my yard to recover... and a beater that utilizes Aurelia's ability might be better.
I was thinking of going more towards the lines of Adriana, Captain of the Guard, Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas, Tajic, Blade of the Legion, Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder, Serra Ascendant, Galepowder Mage, Iroas, God of Victory, maybe even Hellrider.
You are absolutely right about Mask of Memory! I think I will replace some of the other high cost card draw with it, Rogue's Gloves and Sword of Fire and Ice . I might even add Markov Blademaster, Mirran Crusader and Oketra the True to double the triggers.
I totally will be getting a copy of Odric, Lunarch Marshal. I was just looking at him actually. I just had had a chance to check out SteveSketches recommendation of Concerted Effort which was totally awesome! Thank you SteveSketches! Indestructible Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, and a flying Iroas, God of Victory were rather awesome. excepts I was still obliterated that game. So I think the similar effect from Odric, Lunarch Marshal is going to be awesome as well.
I keep on wanting to add Karmic Guide but it is such a combo piece. I want to do it justice with more combo pieces but I usually find myself avoiding combos... usually ;)
I was recently looking at Crown of Doom, do you have any experience with it? I think it might be great with the double attack phases!
Thanks for the commenting! :D
2 days ago
Ramunap Excavator (from HoD) would also be a nice addition to any EDH deck running Green. A 2/3 (2)(G) creature that has the same ability as Crucible of Worlds?? Hell yeah! It makes using Sylvan Safekeeper less painful as well.
I built a deck under her last year. I got all the low-CMC Blue legendary creatures, every Blue or Colorless token generator and every creature-stealing ability I could get my hands on, and sacrificed them into Eldrazi or Krakens...when it worked, it was glorious! Sacrificing a 1/1 token to flip into It That Betrays was amazing!
It sounds like we'd get along IRL, at least at the MtG table...haha
4 days ago
I like your list. Basically i like everything that spins around zombies. I made my own list
Commander / EDH*
and that's how i stumbled on yours.
I am playing more lands than you, the reason being that they get punished a lot on my playgroup ( Terastodons with emphasis on plural). Just in case you go up against something similar you could try sqeezing a Crucible of Worlds. Perhaps you could also benefit from a Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx.
Decree of Pain is another card i can recommend. You get to replenish your hand and as you already said so yourself about board wipes, with Vengeful Dead and Plague Belcher it hurts them more than you.
Finally since you rely on a couple of counters to protect your important assets, a decent solution is Mystical Teachings to help you tutor them in instant speed. or it can fetch Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir if you finally decide to include him.
4 days ago
This looks like a really fun deck! Definitely a different take on my main squeeze Alesha, Who Smiles at Death, and I love it! I play her as well if you couldn't tell Alesha, Who is Unfinished. Mine is definitely different from yours, I play this iron maiden in a very control-type fashion, but I really enjoy discussing the finer points of an Alesha deck. I am curious how well the deck performs with such a low mana count, even with your 0 drops, I don't see you having enough.... Alesha is a mana hungry lady in my experience.
I have a few cards that I would suggest for your consideration; Sanctum Gargoyle for that artifact recursion on a stick, Grenzo, Dungeon Warden since you have a nice shiny Crucible of Worlds, maybe Nahiri, the Lithomancer? it feels like a huge mana sink, and Treasure Keeper because well..... Treasure Keeper. I feel like your list is pretty tight, but I also see that Wizards have pissed in your cheerios and banned some solid cards. Don't know how your meta feels about the ban list, but I think these would be some value cards to replace.
5 days ago
Thanks for stopping by, CastleSiege.
I can understand where you are coming from with the Panorama lands as I don't particularly like the concept of paying out to sac either. Strangely enough, in real-world, this has not been an issue (yet).
I do like your inclusion of Buried Ruin and Inventors' Fair to tutor for Crucible of Worlds. I am considering those adds, but as you have also mentioned, the "Magus of the Crucible" (Ramunap Excavator), has me considering alternative strategy (or just including in addition to).
Now, as far as the Food Chain combo goes, while it does always generate above the casting cost of Titania, Protector of Argoth, the combo itself is geared towards the generation of 5/3 Green Elemental tokens ad infinitum -- not infinite creature mana. That said, it has proven to be a rather gnarly combo.
I went back and forth on Concordant Crossroads -- I am not the biggest fan of the symmetrical effect, but it is a one-drop. I own Akroma's Memorial, but its high-cost originally held me back from adding it to this deck. I am likely going to add at both, but now it is about finding out what to cut.
I actually just scored a foil Nissa, Vital Force earlier this week and was looking to incorporate her. Garruk Wildspeaker looks to be capable of some rather absurd stuff in this deck, which makes it hard to pass up. I plan to add both, but it all boils down on what I should cut to replace them.
Speaking of cutting, I am planning on taking out Birthing Pod and possible some other creature-based tutors, being that, short of winning conditions, I do not really have that many creatures I normally tutor for. I plan on keeping Tooth and Nail, Green Sun's Zenith, and Chord of Calling though, possibly Worldly Tutor as well (though 'reveals' tend to hurt me late-game).
You have brought up a god point about Primal Vigor being symmetrical in effect radius; I honestly overlooked that piece and thought it was a Doubling Season clone. Knowing that, I am more than inclined to agree with you -- does not merit an inclusion.
When it comes to Three Visits and Nature's Lore over Cultivate and Kodama's Reach, I think the trade-off would be worth it, but may require some real-world experimentation on your end. The fact that it does not come into play tapped means a fair amount to me -- I am not fond of losing my momentum.
I would agree that Natural Affinity is likely niche in terms of when it is going to be actually used. The only reason it is staying around is because my meta is pretty heavy on wrath effects and honestly...because I would like to pull it off at least once. Hahaha