Stoneforge Mystic

Stoneforge Mystic

Creature — Kor Artificer

When Stoneforge Mystic enters the battlefield, you may search your library for an Equipment card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle your library.

, : You may put an Equipment card from your hand onto the battlefield.

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Stoneforge Mystic Discussion

VietMoneys on ErTaiChi, Ultimate Master

2 weeks ago

Big changes by the standards of this old deck! Incorporating some fun new cards and moving in a more enchantmentcheavy direction now that Golos el Goloso scratches my ETB creature itch so effectively.

OUT:

Sword of Feast and Famine

Sword of Fire and Ice

Stoneforge Mystic

Baleful Strix

Karmic Guide

Reveillark

Recruiter of the Guard

IN

Mana Vault

Alela, Artful Provocateur

Arcane Signet

Demonic Lore

Kaya's Wrath

Ghostly Flicker

Renounce

I'm splitting the cut cards between Hazezon Muad'Dib: DUNE-Inspired EDH and my aforementioned Golos deck. Of the new additions, Alela seems the most questionable, but I had one laying around and I like that the deck now has THREE alternate commanders hiding in the 99.

JW398 on It'll be hatebears. Eventually

2 weeks ago

meME12

  • Stoneforge Mystic - Might have been a typo, but I already run 4?

  • Aether Vial - Ngl, I've never seen this ran at anything other than a 0 or 4 in terms of copies. The whole point of running low CMC creatures is to abuse Vial. Also it allows me to "flash" in Skyclave and Quelller (On the off chance I didnt leave mana open).

  • Confounding Conundrum - It's still new but being able to slow down opposing fetches is huge when you're a fair deck. Also Ghost Quarter/Field of Ruin, after they play their land drop for the turn, will essentially turn them into a Wasteland. Sure they might get a basic bounced back to the hand - but so what? It blew up a (probably) dual land and gave them something inferior.

  • Giver of Runes - I agree. Trimming one off wouldn't hurt.

EDIT: Thanks for the input!

meME12 on It'll be hatebears. Eventually

2 weeks ago

I would recommend using 4 Stoneforge Mystics. Its good and all but you have 3 equipments so it doesn't do a ton. I would also recommend not using 4 copies of Aether Vial, it is also good but you are running very low CMC creatures so I would put two in. One more thing is that Confounding Conundrum is good against landfall and Uro decks which are in the meta but 4 copies is suicide even with the draw it does little against aggro or any other strategy besides lands.

Apollo_Paladin on indestructible Knight

3 weeks ago

Looks like a solid build +1

The only thing I might suggest is that with a relatively low mana curve like you've got, that you might look into adding some Card Draw like from Bazaar of Baghdad, Revitalize, or something along those lines.

You might also get away with less than 24 lands given this deck's low curve; you could even supplement it with Land Tutoring available from cards like Knight of the White Orchid, Tithe, and/or Gift of Estates.

Also, while I acknowledge that he's a little pricey to order singles of, Stoneforge Mystic is hugely beneficial to decks relying on Equipment conditions as a primary Win.

Balaam__ on Warrior

3 weeks ago

It’s costly, but Stoneforge Mystic would really pull it’s weight here.

Oloro_Magic on [Primer] - Ad Nauseam Combo [[Procellam Legit]]

1 month ago

Pandora314:

Firstly, thank you for the compliments, they are much appreciated, getting to your questions though, I will preface with saying that at this point I have played a lot more WITH the new additions to taxes than against it on Ad Naus meaning I do not have a ton of concrete data to back up my points.

My opinions on the matchup have not changed much, I still believe it to be relatively comfortable though with a strong margin of error dependent on pilot. I will focus here first solely on the mono-white version. Skyclave Apparition is a card I am only worried about inasmuch as they tend to play the playset. Granted they can slow down our development, or worse tag Phyrexian Unlife, but at the end of the day I think we need to evaluate what that line of play translates to for us. If we assume our opponent is playing Skyclave Apparition on turn 3 in an effort to stagger our development. I believe we are fairly safe to assume that Stoneforge Mystic was not the turn 2 play (in most circumstances, perhaps we are on the play and they fear a turn 4 win which is also a possible scenario). With this in mind we need to consider what this means for our opponents clock. The other 2 drops in their deck (pre-board) are Leonin Arbiter and Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, if they are playing Skyclave Apparition turn 3 then we can also assume healthily that the latter was not the play as in that case scenario they have less to fear as concerns a turn 4 win. So let's assume they have played Leonin Arbiter, they now have 2 damage on board at least, turn 1 could have been Aether Vial in which case we can expect another 2-drop at end of turn, again a 2-drop likely with 1/2 power. Add to this the 2 of the Skyclave Apparition and we are at 5/6 past this turn cycle. Overall I like being in that spot even if we have lost a Pentad Prism, of course scenarios could change if we were reliant on that Pentad Prism but being reliant on 1 rock is already a good way to lose against taxes. I bring this all up because a turn 3 Skyclave Apparition precludes an effective Stoneforge Mystic sequence by at least 1 turn, which is a scenario I am more than willing to accept at the cost of a Pentad Prism. We still go well over D&T's head, so delaying their most effective means of killing us quickly is, in this scenario, what I would consider a net neutral gain. I do not want to come across as dismissive here though, they play a playset of Skyclave Apparition, that is something we have to be aware of, in other words, Lotus Bloom becomes ever more important. Here, Phyrexian Revoker becomes relevant, as having the ability to both shut off and remove or set-up and thus be able to be more selective is an issue we need to address, a point I'll get to shortly.

As regards Archon of Emeria, yes. This card is an issue. I will say it has the distinct advantage for us of not being Deafening Silence which I would argue is far worse for us. I will start by saying if D&T is of great concern to you I would consider a mainboard Echoing Truth solely on account of this card, that said in a wide meta that isn't viable and we then have to be smart about beating it. One such way to beat it would technically be to cast Ad Nauseam on opponent's end step with a Phyrexian Unlife active and leave one card in the deck, we can then win the following turn with Thassa's Oracle, be aware though that the line opens us up to the aforementioned Skyclave Apparition, probably a risk we would have to take in that scenario. Most lists run two Archon of Emeria so there is a decent chance we don't have to deal with it game one but yes it is a card that has the ability to shift the balance in our opponent's favor when it comes down. I also should point out, in case someone else is reading this as well, that the lands entering tapped clause is very relevant and should be considered as it can slow us down considerably.

Moving to sideboarding considerations then, Grand Abolisher is fairly solid yes, as to whether it does enough is a bit of a trickier question. Personally, I think we should not underestimate it's ability versus equipment and Stoneforge Mystic, but yes it is most useful for shutting off vial shenanigans such as end-step Flickerwisp. If D&T is a concern I would likely consider up to 2 Grand Abolisher however Grand Abolisher doesn't exactly solve any problem inasmuch as it nullifies issues while we address the larger problem. In the current meta I think we have to start with upping the amount of removal, 1 Slaughter Pact provides some great utility as a one of, and then 3 Path to Exile should be sufficient here to answer the most problematic creatures whilst maintaining relevance against the others popular decks in the format. Again I also like Echoing Truth and even Abrupt Decay effects I believe have some great utility here.

Addressing a potential rise in metashare, I will preface with saying I don't see that necessarily happening as a long time D&T player myself. The deck is too much of a meta deck really to reach Hogaak levels of play to draw a comparison, that said with the current meta the way it is I wouldn't be surprised if D&T got to 5-15% of the field, at which point your argument for a board wipe could be a consideration. We have to ask ourselves then what is popular if D&T is getting that big. Spirits seems like something that could be considered there, Gruul also seems a safe bet, forgive me for it is late and I can't think of a ton off the top of my head, in the environment that D&T is likely to foster then, board wipes would be a good choice, the question though would be which board wipe? Bontu's Last Reckoning is certainly the most efficient, but it is far from the only option. I have always been a fan of Settle the Wreckage for instance, and Supreme Verdict is also a viable option. In the face of a lot of D&T and the decks that would accompany its rise I would also strongly consider a plan B in the sideboard. Grave Titan has the ability to more or less keep up with D&T, Keranos, God of Storms is also decent there weirdly, Dragonlord Dromoka and similar cards are also viable, as is Inferno Titan as a sort of catch all, being a plan B but also a potential mini-boardwipe. In other words, I don't think fear of D&T should throw you onto a boardwipe by and of itself, but rather D&T and the creature decks that could come behind it if it gets very popular.

As for Hushbringer, no I don't think it's particularly great even though it's a cool thought. The big issue I have is that we will only have access to it in postboard games, meaning we could be put into a bad situation with a Phyrexian Revoker naming Lightning Storm and us then having a useless card in hand with Hushbringer, even worse is if they are playing straight Pithing Needle which would be a huge blowout naming Lightning Storm. As the deck is currently constructed then its a cool idea but a bit too risky for my liking. If you want to play Hushbringer you do have some options though, siding out all the oracles and playing Jace, Wielder of Mysteries, Laboratory Maniac, or something more obscure such as Conflagrate (which does have some additional utility in this matchup) could make it possible. Then though you would have to be willing to accept the loss of a sideboard slot for an alternate win-con that still needs to function within the combo, I'd argue that is worse than just playing a plan B. A more out there solution would be to run a Gifts Ungiven package in the board with Unburial Rites and Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite. With that you would have a plan B (albeit a card intensive one for your board) and a board wipe that both allows you to play Hushbringer as a piece of hate (Thassa's Oracle would likely be the cut for the package post-board), and play around Archon of Emeria effectively. I won't endorse that as the most competitive solution but I feel it's certainly something to consider if D&T and the decks it brings are very prominent in your local meta. As you rightly state, the manabase we have allows us to really tinker with quite a bit here so we have no shortage of options.

In summation though I still like the matchup, it has gotten a bit closer I will concede, down from 70-30 to probably closer to 55-45 if I am being generous lacking a substantial amount of data. At the end of the day we still go over their head meaning the burden is on them to stop us not so much for us to win, if that makes any sense, I apologize if it doesn't. Archon of Emeria though is a real issue, and one that should be taken seriously, maybe even necessitating an Echoing Truth on main in certain metas. On a much different note, the BW versions are much tougher. Tidehollow Sculler wears equipment well and interacts with us in a meaningful way. There I am more concerned as we are being attacked on two axes, and while we still go over their head, they can slow us down and drain us of resources in a much more meaningful way than the mono-white builds.

Thank you for the comment, I apologize if this is hard to follow, like I have said it is nearly 2 a.m. here and I didn't want to keep you waiting. If you have further questions, or just clarification of my thoughts here, please do let me know. I plan on revisiting this tomorrow (I suppose really later today) and seeing if there is anything else I should say regarding this matchup, if there is I will certainly let you know.

Vale,

Oloro

plakjekaas on The Sun Was Block by His Wing

1 month ago

Stoneforge Mystic and Steelshaper's Gift are probably out of budget, but Relic Seeker, Stonehewer Giant, Taj-Nar Swordsmith and Steelshaper Apprentice are pretty budget ways to make sure you keep finding your important equipment most of your games.

Feiryn on Ojutai Voltron

2 months ago

I spot someone looking to play my favourite dragon!

First off, what's your budget like? You're running cards such as Mana Drain so I'm going to assume a high budget at least for this comment.

Starting with your lands, you generally want to avoid cards that always enter tapped. This especially goes for a more aggressive list like this where you don't want to be waiting until the next turn for your mana. I recommend dropping all of the lands you have that enter tapped including Temple of the False God, and instead look at picking up others like Adarkar Wastes, Prairie Stream, Seachrome Coast, Nimbus Maze, Skycloud Expanse, Port Town, or even just replacing them with basic Islands/Plains. If you have a lot of money to burn there's always cards like Ancient Tomb, Cavern of Souls, and of course fetchlands.

I highly recommend picking up a Stoneforge Mystic and Batterskull if you can afford them, they go extremely well together. Umezawa's Jitte is another really good piece of equipment but also is a bit more on the expensive side. I recommend cutting Whispersilk Cloak as Shroud makes you unable to equip Ojutai with anything, and Swiftfoot Boots is redundant due to Ojutai's natural hexproof. If you want another way to protect him, there's cheap options such as Sword of Vengeance which gives him a tonne of stuff.

For enchantments definitely look at Aqueous Form, cheap and fills the niche you were going for with Whispersilk Cloak. Battle Mastery and Daybreak Coronet are also fairly good Auras.

As for other cards there's Fabricate, Steelshaper's Gift, and Enlightened Tutor if you want to get pricy. I also recommend cutting Karn's Temporal Sundering, Time Warp, and Ojutai, Soul of Winter since they won't help you in your overall gameplan much.

Apologies for the wall of text, but I hope some of this helps!

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