Artifact Creature — Shapeshifter
Changeling (This card is every creature type.)
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Universal Automaton Discussion
1 day ago
It seems like many Yuriko lists have moved to labfish combos, which I'm not a big fan of. For this build my goal is to continue using more of a burn strategy with a subtheme of turns. That being said, it could easily be updated to support the newer combo based wincons.
Removed: Countersquall, Curfew, Dark Ritual, Darkness, Far / Away, Memory Lapse, Mission Briefing, Treasure Cruise, Fallen Shinobi, Mist-Syndicate Naga, Sakashima the Impostor, Spectral Sailor, Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive, Bitterblossom, Smoke Shroud, Bojuka Bog, Castle Vantress, Mystic Sanctuary, Grafdigger's Cage
Added: Arcane Signet, Bloodstained Mire, Chrome Mox, Damping Sphere, Exotic Orchard, Force of Despair, Frantic Search, Gitaxian Probe, Mausoleum Wanderer, Plaguecrafter, Snap, Spell Snare, Temporal Mastery, Universal Automaton
4 days ago
MadCatMax I gave a very clear reasoning. You are able to hit your infinite turns combo much faster if you are able to pay the mana reliably.
Your combo costs
- for the Oboro activation
- Play a land and have at least 3 other islands in play
- Cast Time Warp for
- Total cost is
- 3 Islands + Mystic provides
- There is still required every execution of your turns loop
- You run 3 rock accelerators in a 99 card deck, and also Dark Ritual which is not effective for the loop
- Even utilizing the untap effect from Oboro on one of your own lands, the earliest you can rip this combo is turn 6 without accelerators.
- This is assuming you hit a land drop every turn for 6 turns. 29 lands, probably not.
You have colorless mana costs in Intuition Oboro Breezecaller Commandeer Force of Negation Misdirection Spellstutter Sprite Tale's End Gingerbrute Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive Fallen Shinobi Ingenious Infiltrator Mist-Syndicate Naga Mistblade Shinobi Sakashima's Student Skullsnatcher Universal Automaton Brazen Borrower Contagion Cyclonic Rift Snuff Out Submerge Whiplash Trap Back to Basics Chains of Mephistopheles Cursed Totem Grafdigger's Cage Scroll Rack Temporal Manipulation Temporal Mastery Temporal Trespass Time Warp Demonic Tutor Diabolic Intent Hope of Ghirapur and Snapcaster Mage. That's 35 cards, literally exactly half of your non-land cards. Of course you can argue that a handful of these have alternate costs that don't include colorless mana, such as the pitch-to-play and some of the ninjutsu, which removes 10 cards from the "uses colorless mana" list. Either way, a quarter of the actual cards you draw and a third of the non-land cards you draw use colorless mana, and the alternate cost cards you will undoubtedly sometimes pay full price for when games go long and resources are available. I didn't even count your two burn cards.
I know you're trying to be clever by cutting slots, and I know this deck doesn't have the explosive plays of hitting Sol ring into mana rocks. Don't try to reinvent the wheel and get clever by cutting mana positive rocks in a deck that uses mana.
My comment is more directed at your friend, who I wrote a very elaborate response to as for inclusions for Sensei's Top in his Doomsday list, and how being reliant on your commander and creatures entirely for card advantage as well as pile cracking is setting him up for failure. Rather than respond, he chose to delete and block me. These decks have a bigger overall problem of being decent competitive decks against most match ups, but absolutely entirely worthless against certain match ups that completely hose the strategy because of how reliant on the commander these decks are. Nevermore on your commander either causes you to scoop or pray for amazing top deck. Repeated Pyroclasm effects resolving cause scoops. Choosing to run Misdirection over Swan Song means if you're counting on Misdirection to stop Pyroclasm you're scooping, or if you're counting on it to stop Demonic Consultation or Flash or Tainted Pact you're scooping. Yes I know it makes a bird token for blocking, but slotting bad cards is your biggest problem.
No I'm not joining your discord. You two are clowns, enjoy brewing your mediocre deck on your own. I'll enjoy the free wins if I ever end up in a pod against someone playing one of these decks.
6 days ago
Just thought about this Universal Automaton would be a good back up for the ashnods combo other than Jousting Idiot.
2 weeks ago
Ok, so I've been thinking about how to make this deck budget, since I've seen some interest in that, and my maybeboard has my answer. I don't think it's as good as this version, but it might still pull off the strategy.
In place of the Aether Vials, you'd put in Call to the Kindred, which provides both card filtering and a free uncounterable creature every turn. The best target for Call is a changeling, so since you wouldn't need Watcher for Tomorrow's filtering as much, you'd replace him with Universal Automaton. And of course, protecting the enchanted changeling would be high priority, so the Dispel in the sideboard would be mainboarded, replacing Arcane Adaptation.
Since Call doesn't come down until turn 4, you'd be more reliant on having an early Champion of the Parish and some Unsettled Mariners to buff and protect him, so it's not as reliable as the actual build, but it's much cheaper!
3 weeks ago
If you wanted to double down on the Skullclamp combo, Universal Automaton works best, though is useless otherwise. Changeling Outcast has far more utility, being that it can be a big unblockable smacko.
1 month ago
Its cool you like building decks, but this is not really competitive. Its a good deck, and you've certainly got some of the correct tech in here, but it really is a waste of my time and yours when you mislabel shit. Its cool you're building on a budget, but don't tag it as cEDH. Simple as.
Land base is fine for budget. Obviously it extends with fetches and Underground Sea if no budget. Your mana rock base is pretty unfortunate too, as you don't have any of the good 0 or 1 CMC accelerators.
Running Labman + Pact as your wincon in Yuriko seems strange. Yes you're getting additional draws off Yuriko triggers, but why don't you build a different deck if you're interested in a pact combo? Especially since the partner commanders lend themselves so well to this strategy. You could be running Tymna the Weaver + any blue partner and be getting much better draws with better overall card quality. You're missing the Draco + Emrakul package that makes Yuriko an actual competitive deck, and you're missing all the topdeck manipulation pieces that allow you to wipe the board with Yuriko triggers. Your lack of ninjas also means you're failing to get all the Yuriko triggers you would want anyways, and the triggers you do get aren't going to be very effective.
Your creatures are all over the place. Even if you don't have the full ninja suite (they are really not expensive at all), you still need to prioritize evasive creatures to get Yuriko ninjutsu. Benthic Biomancer is a cut. Foulmire Knight is a cut. Universal Automaton is arguably a cut, but it is a ninja. If you aren't going to slot the ninjas, at least get evasive 1 drop creatures for ninjutsu.
You have almost 0 topdeck manipulation. Tutors that go to top are a must for Yuriko triggers. Personal Tutor Mystical Tutor Vampiric Tutor Imperial Seal . Even cantrips or draws that manipulate topdeck are going to be good here. Brainstorm is an absolute must, and its shocking you don't already run. Other topdeck cantrips like Ponder Preordain or Serum Visions can set up big Yuriko triggers, even if you can't afford the MVP Sensei's Top or Scroll Rack.
You run a lot of dead draws, like Arcane Adaptation and Unnatural Selection . If you just ran a ninja in those spots, you wouldn't need those cards. Even spamming your creatures into ninjas, you aren't going to get very good triggers off Yuriko because you run no high CMC bombs to take advantage of the triggers, and no topdeck manipulation. Its easier to kill off of 3 triggers that do 15 damage than it is off of 15 triggers that do 3 damage. You're far more likely to get 3 triggers in than get 15.
This is not a competitive deck mate. It has a long way to go. Thanks for posting, welcome to tappedout, tag your shit appropriately and we'll both have a more pleasant day.
1 month ago
Since $500 isn't reasonable for everyone, I thought it may be good to include some substitutions to allow a lower budget. See below for a few changes to consider that will decrease the cost while maintaining the basic strategy the deck. Please note that prices are current and will likely change.
Remove: (~$38.25) Bitterblossom
These changes will reduce the cost by $200... for deeper cuts, things to look at would be:
Cost with all changes: $230
1 month ago
Looks good to me! You might consider these: Bag of Holding , Memory Jar , Rackling , Painful Quandary , Specter's Shroud , Mask of Memory , Assault Suit , Bloodthirsty Blade , Hoarding Dragon , Inventors' Fair , Dimir House Guard , Universal Automaton , Shared Animosity , Kindred Charge , Dragon Mage , Knollspine Dragon