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Land — Plains
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Mistveil Plains enters the battlefield tapped.
, : Put target card in your graveyard on the bottom of your library. Play this ability only if you control two or more white permanents.
Mistveil Plains Discussion
1 week ago
IMO, Weathered Wayfarer is extremely solid vs Tron (fetching Ghost Quarter and Field of Ruin for days) and Control (fetching my singleton Cavern of Souls ). I find it kinda meh against other decks though ... I mean, fetching Mistveil Plains is fine, but any White fetchland works too, and filtering Flagstones of Trokair out of the deck is fine, but that's not really worth a card slot alone.
2 weeks ago
Styms - I’m glad you like the deck and I hope you have as much fun with it as I do! Thanks for the typo tip also, I’ll fix that.
proterran98 - Thanks for the compliment! I think you’d have to rebuild the deck in one of two ways for Sunbird’s, but I love the idea. You could either make the deck entirely (or a huge majority) one cmc, so that every spell is bound to hit something unless it’s a land revealed, or build your deck with a Birthing Pod type of curve with more lean into the lower cmc spells. You could definitely make it work I think, and it’d be fun as hell if nothing else.
Matticusrex - Sunforger has a place, but it is highly mana intensive and you need to build around it heavily. One card you would require for a Sunforger package is Magnetic Theft . Some other possible additions are Auriok Windwalker , Brass Squire , and maybe even Puresteel Paladin to cheat the equip cost. You also need tutors for Sunforger, of which there are four or five reasonable ones. Other cards that I think make Sunforger better are Mistveil Plains , Canal Dredger , Epitaph Golem , Junktroller , and Reito Lantern so you can reuse spells you get that would go to the graveyard. Another notable inclusion is Settle the Wreckage as a tutorable one sided board wipe.
I originally had it in the deck, and considered adding it back in recently, but the slot efficiency is poor for the value you gain. Why it’s in such a high percentage of those decks is likely because the top decks on here have or had Sunforger for a long time, and it feels like a natural conclusion, even though it isn’t upon inspection.
If the package itself weren’t so expensive (tutors alone likely costing $30-$70 for maximum efficiency) I would say try it and see for yourself. A problem I often ran into with Sunforger was that it took way more resources to get and hold up Sunforger that could have been spent progressing my board or doing something worthwhile. It is a powerful card, but not one that I think truly fits here, even in a storm build.
For example: if you can manage to get all 3 instant speed equip cards, 3 graveyard to bottom of library cards, and hold up the mana to do all this, you could theoretically Settle the Wreckage on each players turn in a pod, rendering you unattackable. However, Intimidation Bolt has a roughly similar effect for about a dozen less card slots and costing around the same mana to hold up for three turns in a row.
TLDR; wouldn’t advise Sunforger, but if you want to include it certainly can be played well If built around properly
As an aside, if you’re just using it as a tutor, and not trying to build around abusing it, it might be reasonable there just to find Teferi’s Protection, Boros Charm, or Angel’s Grace in a pinch. Even then, you’re investing 8 mana to cast one spell from your deck, and a further 5 for each other spell you get with it. Hope this answer is in-depth enough to help with your decision making.
1 month ago
Sunforger is so strong with Gwyn that I'd build more heavily around it. Stuff like Tithe to grab Mistveil Plains , Lapse of Certainty , Crackling Doom , Fork , and Chance for Glory come to mind. Toss in a Deserted Temple (to untap Mistveil) and Angel's Grace and you can take infinite turns by looping Grace and Glory. You'd need to fix mana first, but that's easy when you can loop Tithe to grab Sacred Foundry and Godless Shrine.
1 month ago
Mistveil Plains can be a surprisingly useful utility land in this deck. This is because why trying to abuse sunforger it can return angels grace to your deck to re cast it :).
I would also recomend Helm of the Host even though it costs 9!! mana to play and equip combine it does allow you to take unlimited amount of combat steps in a turn with your commander.
Open the Armory can fetch either the helm of sunforger depending on which wincon you need
Gideon of the Trials also works to stop you from loosing although watch out for loose kill spells in your end step (i suppose you need to do that anyway with platinum angel)
Isochron Scepter is also a lovely card for this deck either allowing you to put an extra turn or angel's grace under it and cast at will :)
I would also run a little bit more ramp Talisman of Conviction and Fellwar Stone are good cheep ramp mana rocks. Tithe and Gift of Estates are not sticktly ramp cards but in the long run will give you more mana. The added effect of these two is that not only can they search for mistveil plains but they can also be cast by sunforger.
1 month ago
Nice deck, looks fun! I disagree with Wolfpig on the vivid lands. Obviously shock and check-land are the premium. If budget is an issue, you can stick with cards like Sungrass Prairie . Mistveil Plains and other lands that say "plains" or "forests" are great. These lands come in tapped, but are much more useful than vivids (and can be searched with karametra).
1 month ago
This is very rad! You might like these: Nivmagus Elemental , Cephalid Shrine , Spark Double , Distant Melody , Banishing Knack , Renegade Tactics , Sunforger , Arcbond , Radiate , Knowledge Pool (when played after Hive Mind, but before a lose-the-game spell, it protects you from the spell while your opps will still have copies. also has interesting interaction with Zada/Mirrorwing as the originally-casted spell will still be copied for each creature, and potentially the second spell as well), Possibility Storm (works like Knowledge Pool), Dovescape (works like Knowledge Pool), Snap (potential for infinite mana. what makes it really interesting is that it untaps lands, so you can keep storing counters on Magosi and skip your next 1,000,000 turns. Why is this a good thing? Teferi's Protection), Guile (with Cephalid Shrine and your general, this lets you make infinite spirits. not great, but definitely weird!), Kaho, Minamo Historian , Mistveil Plains , Spellbinder
1 month ago
Hey, nice start. Cards to consider cutting to make 99:
- Bond of Discipline
- Campaign of Vengeance
- Venser's Journal
- Stoneforge Masterwork
- Dowsing Dagger
- Belle of the Brawl
- Brimstone Trebuchet
- Burnished Hart
- Icon of Ancestry
- Words of Worship
- Goblin War Drums
- Door of Destinies
- Whispersilk Cloak
I think rather than aggressive overrun the battlefield with Knights instead play ones that are good with equipment who have evasion, more of a midrange strategy. I suggest this because there's a lot of equipment here which is taking the place of Knights and equipment are midrange cards. I think if you want to play an aggressive overrun strategy with Knights that you want to reduce the amount of equipment and increase the amount of low mana cost Knights especially two drops such as Knight of Grace , Knight of Malice , Stormfist Crusader , etc.
Cards within the budget to consider adding:
- Gamble : tutor for any card.
- Open the Armory : tutor for an equipment.
- Silverblade Paladin : double strike is good with equipment.
- Mirran Crusader : double strike.
- Sunforger : one of the best equipment in Commander and being able to consistently reduce the equip cost to 0 is good.
- Gideon, Ally of Zendikar : 0 creates a 2/2 Knight, -4 can be a repeatable anthem. Gideon holds equipment well.
- Gideon Blackblade : nonfoil version is $6, +1 is very good with creature strategies, -6 is exile removal.
- Sun Titan : repeatable reanimation of a Knight or three drop or less equipment/enchantment. Can reanimate History of Benalia or Knights' Charge .
- Mistveil Plains
- Caves of Koilos
- Battlefield Forge
- Exotic Orchard
- Ash Barrens
- Isolated Chapel
- Clifftop Retreat
Cards to consider cutting:
- Temple of the False God
- Terramorphic Expanse
- 5x Plains
- Embereth Shieldbreaker
- Order of Midnight
- Foulmire Knight
- Vanquisher's Banner
- Basilisk Collar
- Cathars' Crusade
- Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Sunforger would be pretty saucy here, especially when it equips for 0! Toss in a Tithe to grab Mistveil Plains and now you're Utter Ending all day every day. Heck throw in a Lapse of Certainty and now you're playing mardu control?! wawooweewa
Mistveil Plains occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%