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Target opponent reveals his or her hand. You choose a creature or planeswalker card from it. That player discards that card.
1 week ago
I recommend running cards like Duress Despise or Inquisition of Kozilek These cards will let you choose what your opponents discard, which is more advantageous than your opponent discarding their least valuable card every turn. Also, if you're going against any blue control decks i just learned about this fun card Dash Hopes for your sideboard.
1 week ago
It might be worth it to splash G and/or B. G gives you access to 2 very powerful cards, those being Birds of Paradise and/or Noble Hierarch . If you are going the Bant version, I'd suggest Noble Hierarch because of the exalted trigger, whereas Birds of Paradise is better for the 4 color because you can get all of your colors including black. Splashing B gives you access to not only a Flashbackable Lingering Souls . It also gives you access to better midrange spells, the being Fatal Push , Duress , Despise , and Inquisition of Kozilek . You also need, Need, NEED to have Path to Exile in any white deck. Its probably the best removal in the game right now and any white deck not running it, is doing something wrong.
2 weeks ago
Thanks for the comments everyone! Blossoming Defense is definitely going in the deck, I haven't been able to find one for some reason, guess I'll have to order it online. As for whether or not the deck can be competitive, I would agree that in a full competitive meta that this deck might have some issues, but so far in local tournaments, Skullbriar has gone undefeated (6-0) so it can at least hold its own against other fairly competitive decks. Now to the card recommendations:
-I definitely prefer Toxic Deluge to the Languish I have in the deck (I'm also working on getting a Damnation ) -I'm not a big fan of putting in Fatal Push (not running sac outlets to trigger Revolt), Beast Within (creates a blocker), or Bane of Progress (mana cost is high) -I wouldn't mind dropping Reclamation Sage for Natural State -I already have a Dismember in the deck (love that card) - Cursed Totem is going in for sure as well as Vendetta - Tangle Wire has actually been one of my favorite cards to play in the deck, I can stack the triggers at the beginning of my upkeep so that I always tap 1 less than my opponents and it can also target itself so i can tap another 1 less. This is really good at stalling the game once I have Skullbriar out so that they can't create blockers while I keep swinging every turn -Finally, while I agree that some of the hand hate and removal spells aren't the greatest, where this deck excels is the quantity of these in the deck to the point where i can consistently have my opponent top-decking and creatureless ( Icy Manipulator , Blackmail , and Despise will all probably come out as I get better cards though)
Thanks again, you guys made some really good points and I'll be buying some of those cards later today!
2 weeks ago
I'm not sure this deck can be cEDH, but here I go. Toxic Deluge , Natural State , Fatal Push , Dismember , Berserk , Beast Within , Bane of Progress . I'd pull Tangle Wire because it doesn't seem to be doing anything in this deck, as you want to cast your commander T2. Icy Manipulator is bad, and so is Mind Rot . I'd also pull Naturalize , Price of Fame , Blackmail , Despise , and Duress . Doom Blade is really awkward sometimes (I prefer Vendetta anyways), and I'd drop the Murder . For slowing down your opponents, I'd add Torpor Orb , Root Maze , Nether Void , No Mercy , Chalice of the Void , Grafdigger's Cage , Leyline of the Void . Maybe even Hum of the Radix . Just a point- Murderous Cut is better the more fetches you run Sorry about the long post, just really want this deck to work!
1 month ago
If you can't afford surgical, Ravenous Trap does a good impression.
There is also an alternative for budget mill- dont' play like a burn deck, play like midrange/control.
Cards like Languish , Mana Leak , Dimir Charm , Memory Plunder etc then try to buy yourself as much time as possible. You will want to plan out your sideboard carefully- 'side 15' works wonders with this, swapping low impact cards for marginally more useful (languish for negates for example) does a lot. If you are also digging for the combo kill, some Despise or Duress should carry the rest through. There are also marginal 'pillow fort' options that are low price because they have to compete with Ensnaring Bridge - Storage Matrix in particular can work well. Haunting Echoes is an interesting option for mill, often killing combo-reliant decks dead.
If that isn't your jam Shriekhorn will help speed things up.
1 month ago
is really mana intensive and probably too slow for the format. 24 lands is where these decks typically want to sit to hit 4 mana by turn 4 consistently. Beyond that, Turn 1 discard is vital to surviving the early turns. Look at
Inquisition of Kozilek
, and more
. Shoot for 6-8 discard spells.
Here are the changes I would make:
-2 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed - Without ramp it's a dead card.
-4 Relentless Dead - Deceivingly mana intensive.
-2 Sheoldred, Whispering One - See Mikaeus .
+2 Thoughtseize - If you can afford it, the 2 life plays well with Death's Shadow .
+2 Duress - Hits Karn Liberated and above all, gives info to plan better in the early game.
+2 Death's Shadow - If on a budget I would go with Nihil Spellbomb . Trust me you'll need it.
+2 Vampire Lacerator - More Suicide = bigger DS.
2 months ago
Placed some updates to the deck. Switched out Vampire Sovereign for Lord of the Accursed . Alos removed one Sovereign's Bite . I plane to remove all of the rest pf the Sovereign's Bite for Gray Merchant of Asphodel . It may hurt my deck but i have to have my lady love Liliana in the deck. I will replace Liliana, Untouched By Death with Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip. I feel there is better synergy and i can still get the famous removal Liliana of the Veil is loved for, But the second ability of this one is better for a creature based beck like this. The ultimate is also amazing if one can manage to get it off. Looking to replace Dark Salvation i love it but i feel something like Duress , Despise , or Thoughtseize . Though i think it is good i have played a few rounds with friends and feel it is more a sideboard card as i was always playing a creature instead of Dark Salvation , or i would play something cheaper like Go for the Throat to cast other cards in my hand.
4 months ago
BW control generally involves discard spells. You can get some good ones with Duress , Despise , and Castigate . If your friends play mostly creatures, then Harsh Scrutiny is good too. Hymn to Tourach is relatively cheap, but it's very very very very strong, play it at your own risk of creating an arms race between you and your playgroup.
Healer's Hawk is definitely more of an aggro card, if you want an effect like that, I would recommend Vampire Nighthawk . Obzedat, Ghost Council is incredibly strong, as is Blood Baron of Vizkopa . Vona, Butcher of Magan is incredible too.
I love merciless eviction, but you should really only run one, I would recommend you play some copies of Day of Judgment , Languish , Wrath of God , and Ritual of Soot to get those wraths earlier and keep the board clear.
I cannot recommend enough some Isolated Chapel s, Temple of Silence , Concealed Courtyard s, Shambling Vent s, and Caves of Koilos . Fetid Heath has recently plummeted in price as well, but I don't know your budget.
You'll definitely want some card draw to refill your hand too. In these colors it comes at the cost of life, for the most part. My personal favorites in casual decks are Twilight Prophet , but she is ridiculously expensive, and Kaya, Ghost Assassin . Arguel's Blood Fast Flip, Phyrexian Arena , Greed , Sign in Blood , Night's Whisper , Damnable Pact , Dark Bargain , Read the Bones , and Midnight Oil .
Hope this was at least a little helpful!
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