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Each opponent loses X life. You gain life equal to the life lost this way.
2 days ago
Reasons for the two questions above:
If you are winning 1/4 games, you are on par with the rest of the decks in your meta :). Either way though, tuning our decks is part of the fun and will make our playgroup improve as well.
As for the other question, for me the cards that "aren't bad", but aren't great most of time, are the signals for weak links. Either I take those out in favour of cards that synergize, increase card advantage or make a pathway to, and support, my win condition... Or, if they are cards I want to focus on, I keep them in and remove others in place of cards that'll make the "aren't bad" cards great.. Of course it all depends :).
I admit, I do not have much experience with STAXish or Control, and I'm still low on the learning curve. I do have some thoughts to share that I think can help :). I like to find a balance between flavour and function, cards that synergize and have the same "feel" while helping achieve more focus. The focus is a big step for a deck to take to get more wins. Coming up with some clear pathways to your wincons is important.
If you don't have the $ to pickup the Demonic Tutor , Idyllic Tutor and Enlightened Tutor s, there are options like Insidious Dreams . I always look at scryfall.com for transmute cards that could work as well. I just saw Brainspoil , it would be cheaper to activate than Diabolic Tutor . You would pay 3, discard it and go for any card that's 5 cmc, with special thought to either piece of your wincon. It'd also offer another removal in a pinch, or if your wincon is in hand.
If the Blood-Bond combo is your win-con right now, I'd recommend adding in recursion to get them back if they're destroyed. Argivian Find for example. Monk Idealist is a good option if you want to be more creature based. Tragic Poet is slightly slower but lower cmc. Dawn to Dusk costs a little more but pulls double duty as enchantment removal. Open the Vaults could get them both on the battlefield if each are in the yard, and for cheaper than casting both from your hand - you could make getting them from your library to your yard and casting this one pathway to your wincon. I've heard of someone using Insidious Dreams to put combo cards on top of their library, then using something to mill themselves (blue is good at this) and casting an Open the Vaults type spell. Either way you want to go, it'd be worth having at least two recursion spells to support your win-con.
If you add that enchantment recursion, a Sunbond might work to good effect, synergizing with both your lifegain and counters, but also allowing you to beef up a creature for a big strike. Spirit Loop is fantastic on big strikers, if you find your getting one in 75-80% of games. It doubles up with lifelink. Underworld Coinsmith could be a nice flavour/function addition if you start leaning into the enchantment side a little more. Basilisk Collar is a great value card giving some big creature deathtouch as one more disincentive for attacking you, while giving you another tool for lifegain when it's time to go on the attack. Imagine these on Defiant Bloodlord ?!
Worn Powerstone could be a good addition to your mana-base, something the deck might need to be able to keep responding. Smothering Tithe is one that’s off flavour but could be what you need to help ramp.
As Kaigz recommended, Dawn of Hope would go well and give you good card draw.
Krav, the Unredeemed and Regna, the Redeemer could be a nice little combo in this deck - but they both do great as solo includes. I have Krav in a deck that has the colours for Regna, but I already make plenty of tokens. In this deck, you don't have as many creatures to sacrifice to Krav, and if Regna was removed he'd be less useful for you. However, I'd say Regna might be useful? If you had a few more token generators, they'd be a great addition. Casting a creature and getting another to your hand is pretty big value in itself, but with tokens Krav is fantastic value while also making a big creature. I have him in my life leaching Ghave deck
Purity seems sweet. Do you have much red in your meta, enough to make this worth the slot and cmc? if so... Auriok Champion could swapped in for Soul's Attendant , 1 more, it has protection from red making it not just immune to red spells, but an invincible blocker against any creatures (meta dependent).
Imp's Mischief is a powerful little "counterspell" that isn't a counterspell and it goes into the bucket of cards the teach people not to target you... This style of deck is a good place to take that strategy that punishes people for coming at you. Deathtouch and instant speed removals help with that as well.
Batwing Brume is a cheap$ fog for your colours that also fits the flavour.
Here's some thoughts on cards to take out - of course this is from online review and opinion, I don't have the gameplay experience you have.
Do you regularly have plenty of cards in hand to make the of Venser's Journal worth it?
Pontiff of Blight I don't think there's good value between his cost and what he offers you. There's cards that'd do far more for you.
I THINK cards like Night Terrors are better for much faster and competitive metas where you will know who is going to most likely be able to stop you from comboing off. Or in 1v1 games. I haven't found a place for those cards in semi-competitive group metas yet, and definitely wouldn't guess to see it fulfilling the cardslot's deserved value. It's a 1for1 trade off leaving you and the person you targeted one step behind your other opponents in card advantage. I DO see the times it could be fantastic, but it's one of those corner-case cards in the multiplayer slower style of EDH.
I feel like with the slow lifegain you have, I'd take Aetherflux Reservoir out until you consistently, after many, many games, find yourself getting to 90-100 life. I understand it to be mainly good in Storm or in a deck with more explosive life gain, like Firesong and Sunspeaker , or one that uses lifelink or Spirit Loop on a giant voltron commander. I might, if this were my deck, take it out for cards that make your deck tick a little more, just for now. Then, if you are gaining plenty of life (multiples of 50) over many games or created strong pathways to get Exquisite Blood onto the battlefield, you will by then see what is worth taking out for this. Exquisite Blood and the Reservoir are pretty their own Blood-Bond combo, but you need to make sure you have that 55 or more life consistently.
Felidar Sovereign ... Personal opinion alert .... When I first got back into magic I was so excited to pull this in a booster pack... I personally dont enjoy these alternate wincons and feel there's cards that could fill this slot that'd synergize with other cards for more diverse interactions and make the deck far more interesting. But that's just me :)
1 week ago
I don't know if you can justify the slot, but when I was playing this version of my Kess deck, that I was netting big amounts of black mana and couldn't turn it to red for Comet Storm , so I also ran Exsanguinate in my build as well. So like, once Kess is in play, and TYS hits the field, you can play multiple copies of Dark Ritual, Cabal Ritual, and Dark Petition for lethal copies of exsanguinate.
2 weeks ago
Hey, River of Sacrifice is a great deck name, nice one. Do you have the cards in the maybeboard? There's several very good cards there (Demonic, Reanimate, Will, Vindicate, Koilos, Confluence, Heath, Godless, Dreams) if you have them put them into the main deck :)
I agree with bradtheimpaler13, Razaketh, the Foulblooded is the upgrade to consider, he's good enough to build around. Ways to get him into your graveyard and reanimate him help to get him onto the battlefield faster.
Other cards to consider adding, most are to strengthen the aristocrat theme:
- Command Tower
- Caves of Koilos
- Fetid Heath
- Mana Confluence
- Tainted Field
- Viscera Seer
- Carrion Feeder
- Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim
- Blood Artist
- Sidisi, Undead Vizier
- Remorseful Cleric
- Selfless Spirit
- Day of Judgment
- Wrath of God
- Anguished Unmaking
- Swords to Plowshares
Cards to consider cutting:
- Forsaken Sanctuary
- Orzhov Guildgate
- Vivid Marsh
- Orzhov Basilica
- Barrier of Bones
- Bloodmist Infiltrator
- Carrier Thrall
- Dread Shade
- Knight of the Last Breath
- Martyred Rusalka
- Priest of Forgotten Gods
- Pitiless Pontiff
- Scholar of Athreos
- Resolute Watchdog
- Twilight Panther
- Necromantic Selection
- Tragic Slip
- Revival / Revenge
- Macabre Waltz
- Bankrupt in Blood
- Sorin, Grim Nemesis
Good luck with your deck.
2 weeks ago
I also have a mono-black edh deck that aims to win via Liliana's Contract if you want to check it out. My deck:
Commander / EDH
3 VIEWS | IN 1 FOLDER
3 weeks ago
- Eternity vessel
- Crackling Perimeter
- Massass manipulation
- Gatekeeperatekeeper gargoyle
- hydroid krasis
- ethereal absolution
- Holdold the gates
- Sunbird's invocation
- Sanguine Sacrament -> Exsanguinate
- Negate -> Mana Drain
- Expansion / Explosion
- Crushing Canopy -> Mortify
- Chemister's Insight -> Read the Bones
- Blunt the Assault
- Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar: This is only good if you commit to a lands matters playstyle which I think you should do.
For moving more towards a Lands Matters theme, which like I said is where I think you wanna be...
- Crucible of Worlds
- Tireless Tracker
- Rampaging Baloths
- Lotus Cobra
- Realms Uncharted
- Mina and Denn, Wildborn
- Titania, Protector of Argoth
- Wayward Swordtooth
- Amulet of Vigor This definitely needs to be in there.
- 2 More lands of any kind ( Cabal Coffers , and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth )
Sorry it's just Gates doesn't translate as well to EDH because you can only have the 12 or so gates.
3 weeks ago
I hear you with the budget thing, NothingClever. If you can spare the change now, Diabolic Intent is cheeeeap now compared to what it was and will be, and in Ghave (with the cheap 1/1s) it's pretty much might as well be a Demonic Tutor . Worth the buy at this point in time.
Altars are expensive too, but what diabolic intent is to demonic tutor in Ghave, a Utopia Mycon is to a Phyrexian Altar . It's a couple bucks, yes, but far cheaper than a phyrexian altar, but once you played with it a few times you'll be very very happy you got it. Turning saproling into mana is just what you need. Gyre Sage is also a must include for Ghave - especially if it's out with a Ivy Lane Denizen , a Juniper Order Ranger , Cathars' Crusade , or any other passive counter adder. I like to have it out with some extra mana, pass the turn, then right before my next turn, create a bunch of saprolings to trigger counters onto it for a big next turn (maybe with 10 Geralf's Messenger triggers.
Both Gyre Sage and Utopia Mycon could more justify Exsanguinate in here as well. Also, they both make Mirari's Wake and Zendikar Resurgent that much better as you can take the mana doubling even further, leading into a monster turn.
I personally would remove Scute Mob for Blade of the Bloodchief as the blade can produce more counters with the combos in here for added fuel to Ghave, and it can go on creatures who's abilities use those counters: Hangarback Walker , Champion of Lambholt , Hooded Hydra , Mycoloth , Fertilid , Gyre Sage , etc........ Far more value. It also makes an Elenda, the Dusk Rose go nuts and provides tons of value in a Ghave.
Another very powerful card I've used for Ghave is Glare of Subdual . It has huge interaction potential and controls the board easily with Ghave.
3 weeks ago
I like the shadow born apostle idea. Seeing as how there’ll be an Essence Warden out for all the life triggers, a Wall of Limbs could be added as well. It’s worked great in the current Ghave version and in conjunction with Jared, it becomes far better than its current ability, but at least there's a backup ability if Jared's not on the field.
Going off the Krav and Wall of Limbs idea: I’ve got a Kresh the Bloodbraided deck where I use giant kresh to kill people with Dying Wish and Jarad effects. However, I have another where I turn him into many small creatures (for Impact Tremors effects) which I then sac back into big creatures ( Carrion Feeder or Skullmulcher for Blood Artist effects) something that could be an interesting direction with Carnival and the creature etb triggers for into Exsanguinate or swampy tricks.
Here's the deck for ideas/conversation's sake - you all will be the first to see it. It wasn't ready to go public cause I'm editing up the flavour story still and need to balance it a bit more for consistency... It's got a side mill strategy but mainly kills through ''growth and decay'' (hence the name). I think it could inform a strong take on a Carnival version, related to the style seshiro_of_the_orochi is hinting at. I'd add carnival to it actually, if I didn't have to remove much of the synergy the deck needs for the Essence Warden and other life gain effects.
Commander / EDH*
3 weeks ago
This conversation is great to see. I agree, it’s an untapped card (heh heh) and it was fun playing around with it in the deck Hamroids linked to above. This was more of a janky flavour version I built, but I want to do a cEDH version with the altars and cards like Torment of Hailfire and Exsanguinate . Drain Life is the version I used, a card I found in a free box but which works fantastic in here as a single target removal for both creature or opponent. I did throw in Sanguine Sacrament like Joe_Ken_ mentioned, especially for response to an opponent playing a bunch of tokens, but also Suffer the Past , for the same reason and as a response to graveyard tricks by opponents.
It was great to see your thought process leading to Abzan as the colours. Ghave is the king for breaking Carnival of Souls because he has both sacrifice and creature production built on board, both for the magical cost of one.
How about I get started on the cEDH version of what I did then get you guys on board for focusing it on breaking the carnival?
Exsanguinate occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.06%
W/B (Orzhov): 0.42%