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|Shadows over Innistrad (SOI)||Mythic Rare|
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Jace, Unraveler of Secrets
Planeswalker — Jace
+1: Scry 1, then draw a card.
-2: Return target creature to its owner's hand.
-8: You get an emblem with "Whenever an opponent casts his or her first spell each turn, counter that spell."
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Jace, Unraveler of Secrets Discussion
1 day ago
Have you considered adding Jace, Unraveler of Secrets ? It's a really good interaction if you get his ult to go off
1 week ago
In my build, I loaded it with the Enchantment gods for 1. Protection and 2. Utility. I also added more planeswalkers, Jace, Memory Adept Tamiyo, Field Researcher and Jace, Unraveler of Secrets. With the two Jace's, an enchanted chain veil and a couple of enchanted lands you can mill someone completely. With Rest in Peace you exile their entire library, in case someone has a Kozilek. That's my main win con, but also run Walking Ballista. I'm working on making mine a superfriends deck and adding Doubling Season. Hope this helps.
1 week ago
Hey there, coming over to comment here. That other thread was getting foolish.
Cards I love in the deck
Jace, Unraveler of Secrets (I like this card more than most people)
Thoughtseize (Hate the card but I get it)
Cards I think don't quite fit
The main one being
Grim Flayer - Reasoning is simple. Even though you've got planeswalkers, You aren't running Mishra's Bauble or some other random card type to trigger delirium. It's huge to have that piece outside of your Fetches, Dudes, Instants and Sorceries.
Also, Flayer just fizzles Tasigur, the Golden Fang
I would like to see that counter spell suite improved for reals.
I think Mana Leak is such a disappointing card.
In a build like this, as alluded to previously, you can't make Jund that's not Jund. So use more of what Jund doesn't have.
Plus, I think Ashiok just blows (no offense)
BUT, what do I know?
2 weeks ago
Very well. Here goes;
First and foremost, mana is very important. Your calculation is spot on. However, the & need a little bit of tuning. The base could go down slightly, while elevating your sources due to necessity. So, for example - Hinterland Harbor could become Blooming Marsh. Also, for your off color fetchlands (I know that they serve their purpose), if possible, try to make trades for Polluted Delta. It would seriously make all the difference. On another note; man lands are extremely useful in midrange/control shells. I know that Creeping Tar Pit is slightly expensive, but Lumbering Falls is a decent replacement, along with Treetop Village. The choice is yours regarding those two.
Now, as for actual meat & bones, I would start with the creature selection. I know that Snapcaster Mage is expensive, but Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip is a great substitute. the only drawbackis that Jace does not have Flash, however, Jace has reoccurring card selection and may or may not grant better draws.
Also, Scavenging Ooze is a very nice inclusion and gets larger with time, while helping out against weaker matchups, i.e. burn, dredge.
So for creature changes, in my humble opinion - I would do something like this:
4x Grim Flayer
Now, onto non-creature spells. Personally, removing Seasons Past, Disdainful Stroke, Disallow, and other clunkier spells would intensify this decks pressure aspect. I would also work on finding a way to trade or save up for some allotment of Assassin's Trophy. The card does what Abrupt Decay cannot when necessary. Allow me to make a suggestion;
-2x Spell Pierce
-1x Seasons Past
-3x Serum Visions
+1x Cast Down Hits Tron creatures and big bodies that Push cannot.
these two Jaces just do not apply enough pressure/concern for their mana investment.
for any of these as you see fit
+(x) Ob Nixilis Reignited
+(x) Jace Beleren
I hope that this assists you in your journey to build . feel free to pick my brain and pardon me for the late reply friend.
2 weeks ago
There are a few pieces you might be missing here.
First off, the one oath that you're missing: Oath of Jace
And finally, the planeswalkers you may have missed. Sorin, Lord of Innistrad creates tokens with the + and the ultimate is devastating. For the creatures that you have, Ajani, Mentor of Heroes is insane. Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants does the same thing as Mentor of Heroes, but eventually gives you another kind of token. Aminatou, the Fateshifter and Deepglow Skate. Garruk Wildspeaker is some lovely ramp. Jace Beleren is card draw and can gain you some early-game allies. Jace, Architect of Thought is a little protection for the walkers. Jace, Unraveler of Secrets + is an Opt. Kaya, Ghost Assassin is a nice swiss army knife. Teferi, Hero of Dominaria is just the best. Venser, the Sojourner is insane with Deepglow Skate, or if you get Djeru, With Eyes Open it's just the best thing.
PB80 on Surrak test
3 weeks ago
Cultivate gone for a card with lower CMC
Doubling Season Change in strategy
Garruk, Caller of Beasts Change in strategy
Jace, the Mind Sculptor Change in strategy
Jace, Unraveler of Secrets Change in strategy
Kodama's Reach gone for a card with lower CMC
Maelstrom Wanderer It just hits too many cards to be productive
Mirror Image Found it a really nice card but needed the slot
Riku of Two Reflections to mana intensive for current build
Samut, the Tested Change in strategy
Stingscourger Nice card but missing something
Timestream Navigator too slow in this build
Vexing Shusher Change in strategy opens up this slot
Vivien Reid Change in strategy
Amulet of Safekeeping Like the way this tests
Chrome Mox to improve mana
Banefire extra Win con
Etali, Primal Storm heavy hitter and target to force a move
Flash opens up options
Farseek mana improvement
Grinning Ignus combo piece and mana boost
Phyrexian Revoker toolbox
Peregrine Drake combo piece
Protean Hulk combo piece and toolbox
Rampant Growth mana improvement
Trinket Mage tutor
Walking Ballista combo piece
1 month ago
Hello! Nice deck. Some ideas: Jace, Unraveler of Secrets for additional card draw, Entomb and Vampiric Tutor as tutors, Dark Salvation instead of Glimpse the Unthinkable (mill is not your main strategy, am I right?), Damnation and/or Languish (you definitely need board wipes), Scourge of Nel Toth (it's not a problem to sacrifice Gravecrawler and a Zombie token to cast him from your graveyard), Vengeful Pharaoh (nice ability + deathtouch), Grimoire of the Dead and Rite of Replication - just for more fun.
1 month ago
Hello! What do you think about adding Gray Merchant of Asphodel? Mikaeus, the Unhallowed is another nice addition. I also use Gisa and Geralf in my BU Zombie deck. And I can also recommend Sensei's Divining Top and Jace, Unraveler of Secrets - they are very useful for card draw.