Hymn to Tourach
Target player discards two cards at random.
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Hymn to Tourach Discussion
1 week ago
Apollo_Paladin, I appreciate the suggestions, though there are a few problems with them.
Unstable Frontier is, honestly, nothing more than a meme. Yes, it makes the third mode of Funeral Charm better, but just that. The last mode is nothing more than an added bonus. Giving swampwalk is just a cute trick that can help close a game. If I wanted to go down this route, I'd just run more copies of Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth .
Witch's Vengeance can be kinda useful. Still, it's a bit too situation. If I were to swap my boardwipes, I'd just run Damnation , as it's more effective. The ability to leave my creatures intact is a decent upside, I just don't know if I'd rather have a boardwipe, in the sideboard, that's good against any board or that's good against some decks.
Inscription of Ruin is completely off the table. While it's technically correct to say all of its modes are useful, at 3 CMC they aren't good enough. Making an opponent discard two cards of their choice for three mana isn't good, hence why something like Mind Rot has basically never seen play and Hymn to Tourach is an insanely powerful card. The Unearth "effect" also isn't good. It does seem nice to reanimate some of the cheap creatures but this list has only eight targets that cost two mana. Honestly, I don't want to spend three mana for a two mana creature. The last mode is just a worse Fatal Push or Bloodchief's Thirst . On the other hand, Collective Brutality gives me knowledge about my opponent's hand while also allowing me to pick the card, which could, and probably will, be a removal spell, thus being better than an effect similar to Unearth . It's decent removal that bypasses indestructibility and regeneration. And last, but not least, the drain mode can actually help against burn/aggro matchups and minimises the the lifeloss from Castle Locthwain and Thoughtseize . The cherry on top of all of that is I don't need to pay extra mana for extra modes, which is great considering this deck caps out at four mana.
Call of the Death-Dweller is basically in the same spot as the Inscription, so I'll just talk about what's unique to it. Giving menace and deathtouch isn't really worth the cost. I could just run another equipment that gives something similar.
There are quite a few reasons why Fatal Push is better than Bloodchief's Thirst . Chief among those is the fact it's an instant. Aside from Thoughtseize and the singleton Raven's Crime , the deck has no true turn one play. Funeral Charm is something that can be played turn one but isn't really wanted. Fatal Push allows for a better use of my mana on the first turn, whereas the Thirst forces me to wait until turn two unless I'm on the draw. That being said, I'm actually considering swapping one copy of Yahenni's Expertise for one Thirst.
Sorry I took so long to reply and my reply seems like I shitting over your suggestions. I do appreciate the time and effort you took to comment.
1 month ago
DreadKhan Thy for your insights. Necrogen Mists seems to be good to have a copy in it, more as a cheap Liliana of the Veil replacement. But Hymn to Tourach is the card i want to play, besides Sinkhole . So that brings me to keep it in the Main. But i have to playtest the Deck, if possible in the next month. Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage is in my Maybe Board alreay as a 9th Rack.
1 month ago
1 month ago
Love the deck but Hymn to Tourach, Vindicate, andSkullclamp are all from pre modern sets or are banned and so you may want to A, change the format (probably vintage) or B, switch the cards out for some other cards, some you would maybe like Basilica Bell-Haunt, Mortify as an alternate to vindicate and also I maybe would consider the new card Firja, Judge of Valor, she gives lifegain and evasion, along with ways to get gravecrawler into yout graveyard and other cards into your hand, If you did that I would recommend Ornithopter. You also need a wincon so maybe something like Massacre Wurm to help with your Blood Artist triggers.
1 month ago
When it comes to EDH, I like to use a 5-point building strategy. This includes
Ramp(the higher power stuff)
Every card in your deck should be in one of those 5 slots. Additionally, I consider cards like Fellwar Stone, Signets, Talismans and Arcane Signet to fit largely in the 'land' slot. They're there for ramp, yes, but they're also largely there for color fixing.
Also, your win condition should be fairly compact. You can take a combo route, or you can have a couple specific cards that can win the game on their own or with a little support.
In discard themes . . . you don't get all that much. All the discard payoffs that help in other formats are too slow in EDH.
So I'd take the Pox plan -- use Smallpox, Pox, Hymn to Tourach, Wrench Mind and Vicious Rumors to throttle your opponent's hands. Use spells like Deafening Silence, Rule of Law, Spirit of the Labyrinth, Leonin Arbiter and Aven Mindcensor to prevent your opponents from getting back on their feet. Then, hit them with some win con of your choice. Make it quick, though, because they will eventually get out of your lock and come for your throat.
2 months ago
FSims81, Hymn to Tourach is a fantastic card for this thread! Very ominous, makes reference to an (at that point) largely-undefined world, and the old art (both/all of them) are clear but still mysterious. Everything I loved about magic back then, wrapped up in a badass BB casting cost!! VERY good pick!!
2 months ago
Other cards have inspired infatuation but none will ever knock Hymn to Tourach from the top place in my heart. So strong a card back in the infancy of my Magic playing days that my decidedly kitchen table group suddenly decided to started enforcing the restricted rule to keep me from playing 4 of
3 months ago
Aaah MAN I can NOT beLIEVE I forgot about Hymn to Tourach, I'm so disappointed in myself.
The comment about the interaction is totally true, I really wanted to try out the strategy of suicide black and didn't really think about interaction too much. I'll probably take your advice and add in some Dismember and some Inquisition of Kozilek, those are both pretty good and well within budget range for me.
Cling to Dust is pretty good, I'll try it out in place of Cremate, the reason I have those (and Aphotic Wisps) is because I just really love cantrip effects; mostly irrational, but I like them nonetheless.
Rouse is really fun as a combat trick with a Death's Shadow, but you might be right about it not having high enough impact on the game; maybe I'll try out Cruel Bargain instead. But, only a couple, I want to keep the CMC down, the other slots will likely be for interaction.
I really enjoy playing Village Rites just as a card, especially post combat with it being the only card in my hand, but yes, it is a really really bad topdeck. I might cut some number for other card draw, but if I ever do end up with Unearth in the main I will likely bump the number up again.
Speaking of Unearth, yes, the sideboard is more of a maybeboard; it's filled mostly with cards I enjoy playing in this strategy, or just don't have room for.
For more removal, I'll mix it up with an assortment of some of the cards you suggested.
Thanks so much for the suggestions Draly, I have virtually no experience with the legacy format so it's nice to have someone with insight to offer.