Vampiric Tutor

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Highlander Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Vampiric Tutor

Instant

Search your library for a card, then shuffle your library and put that card on top of it. You lose 2 life.

Profet93 on Mind-Gnawer

1 day ago

Cabal Coffers/Cabal Stronghold - Ramp

Deserted Temple - Untap the above / politics

Thespian's Stage/Vesuva - Copy cabal

Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth - Color fixing, not needed but nice to have if you include coffers.

Mind Twist - Random discard, super effective ramped into and as counterspell bait

Imp's Mischief - "Counter" counterspells and redirect targeted removal, draw and extra turns. Given your deck is extremely reliant on your commander, having some protection/bluff ability/utility is very valuable.

Bubbling Muck - Ramp

Feed the Swarm - Enchantment removal

Syphon Mind - Draw 3, each opponent discard 1

Vampiric Tutor - Tutor

DoctorMunchiesPHD on A Pimp Named Sliver Overlord

3 days ago

haki2022 Funnily enough I used to run a more Zur-Heavy list. In my experience he seemed to end up less useful as I bought more cards like Vampiric Tutor, just seemed more consistent and less-likely to get pathed the second it hit the board. Also I get why people run graveyard recursion style Overlord decks for sure they make for very explosive plays, but I'm going for a more control-heavy deck myself to better protect my combos and win-cons. It's been nasty in playtesting so far, current list is 4-1. Also Intruder Alarm is definitely in my deck, I use it to lock people out of games with Telekinetic Sliver lmao people do NOT like that interaction.

Profet93 on Visions of Erebos

1 month ago

Sheoldred, the Apocalypse - Offsets commander lifeloss, great against blue/draw decks. Deathtouch is nice. Synergy with Peer into the Abyss (which also goes well with underworld dreams).

MAYBE Heartstone? - I'm unsure if this works with your commander only if he's a creature or even if he's just an enchantment.

Cabal Coffers - Ramp. Cabal Stronghold is more budget.

Deserted Temple - Untap coffers + politics

MAYBE Rings of Brighthearth - Copy commander ability without paying life. Also Coffers + Deserted temple + rings = . Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth - Makes you need less swamps but is not budget (or needed, but helpful).

Imp's Mischief - "Counter" counterspells while redirecting targeted removal, extra turns and draw.

Necropotence - Draw

I am unsure what your wincon is, beatdown? You lose a lot of life with your commander's ability. Perhaps a The Meathook Massacre could help as a wipe + lifegain effect?

Diabolic Tutor/Beseech the Queen/Beseech the Mirror. Tutors are black's biggest strength, utilize it for consistency.

Alhammarret's Archive - Extra draw

Black's 3rd biggest strength is massive mana. Aside from coffers, Crypt Ghast, Nirkana Revenant, Caged Sun, Gauntlet of Power

Once you determine your wincon, you can start to mold the deck to achieving that goal.

EDIT: Removed the non-budget options

Azoth2099 on Nekusar Control/Wheels v4

1 month ago

The story behind this deck is so cute, I love it. Let's get to it.

The first thing I noticed when evaluating the potential consistency of this list is that you need to trim some fat from your gameplan. Personally, I'd cut down to 30 lands, include a list of mana rocks & mana rituals, dial into the key pieces that are actually going to win you the game like Windfall & Ojer Axonil, Deepest Might  Flip by cutting stuff like Omniscience & Price of Knowledge for tutors like Mystical Tutor & Vampiric Tutor.

If you'd like, we can strip the list down and rebuild it from scratch together, I love Nekusar lol.

legendofa on Rat Colony hub

2 months ago

sergiodelrio I'm also avoiding loose and vague hubs names. They get used incorrectly or are broad to the point of all-inclusive.

Vague hub names have caused problems in the past. One hub in particular (Team America, now inactive) was being used for the wrong decks entirely. It's a Legacy tempo shell from 2008-2009, but was being treated as a synonym for any Jeskai deck, which is about as far away from the intended definition as you can get. I understand the source of the confusion, but a confusing hub is not a good hub, in my opinion. If it can't be understood at a glance, it's going to get reworked.

"Reduced variance" or "low variance" also already exists, kind of, as the "competitive" hub. The whole intent of competitive decks is to reduce variance as much as possible, so that the deck is as streamlined and consistent as possible. This is achieved through tutors, redundancy, deck manipulation, using playsets of cards, and so on. So what would be the criteria for inclusion in a "low variance" hub? I expect that a "low variance" hub would be highly subjective, used for any deck that its creator thinks is unusually consistent, whether or not it actually is.

I have also declined to put in a real tutor hub so far for similar reasons. How many tutors do you need to have to be a "tutor" deck? Is four enough, with Imperial Seal, Vampiric Tutor, Diabolic Tutor, and Diabolic Intent? What about Eladamri's Call, Green Sun's Zenith, Natural Order, Buried Alive, Terramorphic Expanse, Misty Rainforest, Mystical Tutor... What would be a short and solid description of a "tutor" deck? "A deck that regularly searches its library" would include landfall decks, almost every competitive EDH deck, "silver bullet" decks, and hatebear decks, all of which already have their own hub, and probably more. "A deck with seven or more card that search its owner's library" is arbitrary, as is any other number for inclusion. "A deck that regularly searches its library for specific cards that help it advance its win condition"--nah, I'm going to search for this useless card that doesn't help me at all.

Incidentally, "scry" is already available as a hub in the keyword/subtype checklist.

If a hub includes a $300 Dragon's Approach Pioneer deck, a $80 Elrond, Master of Healing casual Commander deck, and a $50,000 Vintage Beseech the Mirror deck, that hub becomes even broader than the aggro/combo/control archetypes, and as such becomes almost meaningless. I've added Dragon's Approach, Rat Colony, and Shadowborn Apostle to the short list for consideration, so they might be coming soon; I didn't see as many decks or as much diversity for Persistent Petitioners. And don't worry about a long post, as long as it's meaningful. It shows the idea has people willing to defend it and fight for it, which makes it more likely to be included one way or another.

Azoth2099 on Davros, Dragon's Approach

2 months ago

Ok hear me out!

I feel like a sub theme of reanimator leveraging cards like Scholar of the Ages, Archaeomancer & Snapcaster Mage could take your Dragon's Approach strategy to huge heights, especially if you can reduce the cost of each burn with something like Vadrik, Astral Archmage. Since you're already running Birgi, God of Storytelling  Flip, it would be super easy to go infinite with Scholar of the Ages & Burnt Offering if you tie it all together with a trigger doubler like Harmonic Prodigy or Naban, Dean of Iteration.

This strategy would also help you remove a lot of cards that - while synergistic - should eventually be replaced by things that will drastically increase the core strength & resiliency of your deck like Demonic Tutor & Vampiric Tutor in a new, more powerful form.

TypicalTimmy on Power Level Standards

2 months ago

A good method to gauge "power" is to ask

  • How many LAND tutors are there, such as Evolving Wilds
  • How many NONLAND tutors are there, such as Idyllic Tutor
  • How many TUTORS are there (that can search for land and nonland cards alike) such as Vampiric Tutor
  • How many DISTINCT "combos" are there? Which is different from synergy

There is a big disagreement on what constitutes a combo and what constitutes as synergy. Not all synergistic cards are combos and vice versa. My fundamental philosophy is that a combo RELIES on each individual card to succeed. If you remove one element, they fall flat. For example, KCI requires specific cards. You exile or destroy just one, it falls flat. Meanwhile synergy are booster cards. You don't NEED it to win, but having it will significantly improve your chances. It boosts everything you have. For example, you don't NEED a Dragon Tempest to win, but it makes it so much easier if you have it. Whole synergy cards help you win, combos MAKE you win.

So,

  • How many DISTINCT COMBOS do you have?
  • What is your average mana curve?
  • With an ideal opening hand, how quickly can you theoretically win?

I mean there's probably a dozen more elements we can add but you get the point.

The real issue is that, you can be Top Dog #1 with your little playgroup or small LGS and believe your deck is just the bee's knees, but you take it to even a local championship and you get blown out of the water.

So really, you also have to account for skill and, yes, luck. So, shrug?

Profet93 on Oh you are just the worst kind of person

4 months ago

darksuffrage21 +1

Pretty good list. I'm surprised you don't run more draw. Necropotence is powerful and has amazing synergy with possessed portal because you don't actually draw cards, is that why it isn't in the "Draw" section? Phyrexian Arena > Dark tutelage. Assuming possessed portal isn't in play, this is an upgrade.

I like the use of fetchlands with crucible. It appears there are budget considerations of the deck not mentioned in the description? Assuming I'm wrong, then perhaps consider fetchlands and Cabal Coffers and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth package. Can't forget Chains of Mephistopheles given you're not drawing a bunch and it fits into the discard theme.

Why is Altar of Dementia in the tutor section, am I missing something?

Vampiric Tutor, Grim Tutor and Imperial Seal are all helpful tutors.

Perhaps a Bitterblossom or a Reassembling Skeleton for contamination and to break parity on your control/stax effects.

What is the purpose of Voltaic Key? I am unsure if you run enough artifacts for inspiring statuary, how has that been playing for you?

Looking forward to your response.

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