Finale of Devastation

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Finale of Devastation

Sorcery

Search your library and/or graveyard for a creature card with converted mana cost X or less and put it onto the battlefield. If you search your library this way, shuffle it. If X is 10 or more, creatures you control get +X/+X and gain haste until end of turn.

Catpocolypse on The Island Awakened

3 days ago

Alright @Profet93, I'm home and ready to take a deeper dive into this.

Abundance + Sylvan Library is something I will have to test out, Abundance is always a card I keep coming back to when I'm building in green. I'll see about testing it out, my group of friends is fine with proxies so I can have a chat with them about it.

If I include Yavimaya Hollow as well as making half my forests snow covered, that brings me to 10 land cards with different names. I'm not sure I can be consistent enough with Field of the Dead for it to be worth including. Though in the future, if I slot in more land cards it is definitely worth considering.

My other explanation wasn't exactly to the point lol, so I'm gonna try to clear this up. The reason my playgroup is fine with Triumph of the Hordes is because they understand that when that card comes out, it is with the intention to end the game this turn, no waiting around, either respond or lose. Finale of Devastation doesn't have that same power in this deck simply because there isn't anything I can go and find that has the same presence or intent that Triumph of the Hordes does.

Skullclamp is definitely something I considered, though not towards my one drops. Most of them are very reliable ramp/landfall shenanigans, Llanowar Elves being the only exception, using Skullclamp on the one drops doesn't seem like the correct play to me. Using it on the elemental tokens however, I am heavily considering, as we have already discussed how good of a sac option they make for cards like Greater Good.

Burgeoning is an interesting case because sometimes it feels kind of useless, but it has also had it's moments where it becomes one of the most powerful cards in my deck. It's a risky card, but there will always be risky cards. The real reason I'm not really considering taking it out however is because my LGS only had one copy and I will honestly feel bad if I tossed $20 at a card that high in demand just to swap it out a week later.

I haven't had a chance to playtest with Greater Good yet, but I have high hopes for it, as it is significantly more reliable than Jaheira's Respite

Those are my thoughts, though unfortunately I haven't been able to back any of them up with testing yet. Interested to see what you think of my logic behind certain choices.

Catpocolypse on The Island Awakened

3 days ago

@Profet93

Super glad for such a detailed list of suggestions, I'll try my best to go down each one and give you my thoughts on them.

Abundance/Sylvan Library: Between the two, I'm leaning more towards Sylvan Library due to the synergies you outlined, but I am seriously considering both of them. From what playtesting I have done, I have more than enough ramp effects, but I lack in card draw in order to power how many cards the deck can churn through. What do you think about replacing Lotus Cobra with Sylvan Library and Colossal Majesty with Abundance? Sylvan Library makes a better 2 drop than Lotus Cobra considering how much ramp I have and you already outlined the problems with Colossal Majesty.

Field of the Dead was not included because I don't think I have enough variety in my landbase to reliably activate it. Even if I change half my forests to snow covered, I only have 9 different lands, that's including Field of the Dead. I just have way too many fetches meant to get double landfall triggers for it to be reliable IMO. Unless I'm leaving fetches uncracked on the battlefield, I don't think I'm going to reliably be able to get much value out of it. I'm excited to hear your thoughts on that because I don't think it is entirely out of the question yet.

Castle Garenbrig: I already outlined out I have enough ramp and am thinking about cutting some for card draw, plus pretty much all of my lands are playing around a landfall trigger system where I am consistently saccing them and playing them out of my graveyard one way or another. Castle Garenbrig doesn't play into that strategy at all and I don't believe I need the ramp, I have a fairly low curve as it is.

Yavimaya Hollow: Definitely a card I was considering, but I ended up keeping it off the list not because of anything game mechanic wise, but just price. I already feel like this deck is quite possibly my most powerful deck and my playgroup is very casual, and relatively budgeted. As time goes on, this is absolutely be included as new cards come out and I keep this updated, but as of right now, I think I would feel bad showing up with a deck worth of 1k and playing against my friend who consistently makes decks worth less than $100.

Finale of Devastation: I honestly prefer Triumph of the Hordes in this deck, I don't usually need to make my creatures all that much bigger to win, I need the damage they deal to do more for me. Trample is something I prioritize in other decks for the finishing power and Triumph of the Hordes is no different, as well as the Infect making it a clear finishing card. I'm not entirely sure what I would even find with Finale of Devastation. Cultivator Colossus and Ancient Greenwarden/Rampaging Baloths are my highest CMC cards and none of them are real game closers, just big hitters that have powerful synergistic effects with my game plan.

I'm actually going to touch on Greater Good and Jaheira's Respite together: Jaheira's Respite is a risk vs reward card in my eyes, as it swings from being a dead card to pulling out 5, 8, 10+ lands in a single turn. This is one of the cards that I already own, so no need to buy it somewhere and I plan on doing some playtesting with it in a live environment. If it doesn't give enough reward for the risks it poses, it is going to be swapped out for Greater Good. I don't have all that many creatures I want to sac to Greater Good but you're correct, the elemental tokens fill a perfect role in that.

Hope this explains some of my positions on your suggestions and I'm looking forward to your own thoughts on my reasoning for the choices

Profet93 on The Island Awakened

4 days ago

+1 Be sure to let me know what you think of each suggestion, seems like a pretty cool synergistic deck.

AbundanceSylvan Library > Collasal Majesty. Honestly, most cards over majesty. Despite the royal name, the card only triggers once, on upekeep. So best case you maybe ramp into it, play a creature with high power, draw a card or 2 before it dies. Abundance allows you to filter your draws and is synergy with Cultivator Colossus (lol, Collasal Majesty, Cultivator Collusus, anyways....). IF you were to find a slot for sylvan library, abundance would synergize extremely well (I forgot the way the synergy works at the moment, something about drawing cards of your choice without paying the life). Speaking of sylvan library....

Is Field of the Dead not in here because it comes in tapped, doesnt make elemtenals or both? It seems very much on theme with landfall and token geeration nevertheless and is extremely powerful. Can help make tokens when your commander becomes unavailable. Swap half of your forests for snow covered if you were to add in field to help reliably activate it. Not to mention that it goes well with Scapeshift, Spelndid Rec, etc.... Seems too good too ignore, your curve doesn't seem low enough to worry about it coming in tapped.

Castle Garenbrig - Ramp

Yavimaya Hollow - Protection

Neither castle nor hollow are high priority given you are limiting nonbasics. But it might be worth considering should you feel lacking on either front, particularly the latter, even though the former could be more helpful.

Finale of Devastation > Triumph of hordes? - Both act as a wincon, although finale has much greater variety and is not a winmore card.

Greater Good - Do you not feel you have enough 4+ power creatures to take advantage of this? I feel the tokens u generate would make this an easy inclusion. Not to mention it prevents theft and exile effects, all while allowing you to fill your grave with more lands if needed. Seems like the best card for your deck out of all of my suggestions, am I missing something?

Potential cut, Jaheira's Respite - You say in your description you dont want myriad landscape or blighted due to mana utilization. Yet you are okay with holding 5 mana back? What if you already have a lot of basics out (given your deck has only half) or they just aren't attacking you. Too situational for too low of a payout IMO. How has it played for you?

Looking forward to your response.

aholder7 on Shivan the devastator

3 weeks ago

it looks like the combo here is Devoted Druid equipped with Luxior, Giada's Gift to produce infinite mana then using Shivan Devastator/Crater's Claws or anything else as an outlet to kill with it.

The main issue I see with the deck is finding the druid or gift. the only way i see you finding them short of mulling aggressively is with Genesis Hydra thats not exactly an efficient way to look for them. fetching the druid can be done with anything similar to Finale of Devastation. but getting gift is a bit tricker and you may just need to dig hard with cards like Cathartic Reunion.

Profet93 on Infinite Mana, Infinite Creatures

3 weeks ago

While not all of these are necessary, some of these will help.

Yeva, Nature's Herald - Prevents you from overextending into a boardwipe and allowing you to play reactively. Probably the best out of all of these recommendations.

Eternal Witness - Recursion

Titania, Protector of Argoth - Creates tokens upon creature death with commander out

Greater Good - Greens best draw, although it might not be needed given the creature power and all the other draw in the deck. Nevertheless, worth mentioning.

Sylvan Library - Nice to have to set up draws early game, provide gas in a pinch and synergy with topdeck shenanigans.

Green Sun's Zenith/Finale of Devastation - Helps you find what you need, when you need it. Finale also acts as an alt wincon (would serve better than ur other x spells) and provides the potential for recursion.

Rishkar's Expertise - Similar to Greater good, not needed but nice. It appears you are a fan of steady card draw over burst. Why is that?

Rude Awakening - Nice to untap everything, albeit unneeded.

Tooth and Nail - Nice to have as another wincon. Can also synergise with eternal witness for re-use during the late game in case you run out of draw

Skullclamp - Extra draw in a "pinch"

Profet93 on Azusa, lost but seeking

1 month ago

Boseiju, Who Endures - Removal

Castle Garenbrig - Ramp, not necessary given your 1 drops, lower amount of creatures. But its floor is slightly lower and ceiling is slightly higher than average, so I believe it is a worthy inclusion

Field of the Dead - Free zombies! Such a good inclusion, don't sleep on it. Imagine with boundless realms, scapeshift, etc....

Misty Rainforest/similar lands/ETB Tapped Fetchlands - Too much value with crucible to ignore. Not to mention it allows you to shuffle if you have a top deck utilization such as Oracle of Mul Daya, top, etc....

Sanctum of Ugin - Nice tutor effect, not necessary but I've found it extremely helpful. Given in Azusa we run out of cards quickly, this allows you to tutor for either Kozilek to refill your hand.

Yavimaya Hollow - Protection, not needed but nice to have. Also, politics.

Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth - Not needed but allows you to tap maze for green mana, ancient tomb, etc...

Fierce Empath - Tutor for ulamog or kozilek for draw or removal. Or just any higher CMC creature you need really. Not necessary but I've always enjoyed him

Lotus Cobra - Ramp! Much better with fetches. Speaking of fetches....

Ramunap Excavator - Redundancy for crucible of worlds. More easily recurabble as well.

Regal Force - Tooth and nail into avenger + regal.

Scute Swarm - MASSIVE token generation, even better with regal

Tireless Tracker - Draw, slow, better with Lotus cobra. Not necessary, but if you find yourself running out of gas consistently, this might be worth considering.

All Is Dust - Wipe (over Spine of Ish Shah for Sure) that synergizes with Sanctum of Ugin. I've done this more times than I can count

Finale of Devastation - Like an additional G-Sun Zenith but with a higher ceiling. Also, a wincon

Rishkar's Expertise - While not optimal for your build per say, it has a high ceiling. Thought it was worth mentioning.

Scapeshift - Tutor, landfall trigger, trigger field of the dead. Synergy with land recursion such as crucible or ramunap. Should you ever wish to consider a token landfall package given your lack of creatures, this would supplement that. Not needed but nice to have

Given the amount of suggestions, you can either tell me what you like/want to include and I can provide suggestions for cuts based on that, or I can just go through your list right now and provide you my thoughts. Lmk what you think!

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