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Finale of Devastation
Search your library and/or graveyard for a creature card with converted mana cost X or less and put it onto the battlefield. If you search your library this way, shuffle it. If X is 10 or more, creatures you control get +X/+X and gain haste until end of turn.
ThuperThlayer on The woods is dead people
4 days ago
There are a lot of cards I ordered on TCGplayer a month or more ago that haven’t arrived yet. Scryb Ranger is one of them. And I have a Nantuko Vigilante lost in the mail somewhere to synergize with Yedora and those rangers. I also have a Japanese Timber Protector that I want to run because with the second iteration of this deck, I plan to have a few cards to turn all my forests into creatures, like Life and Limb, Living Lands, and Thelonite Druid. And yes, if someone exiles all my creatures, there goes my board state, but that’s why I bought a Natural Affinity. It’s a mean reaction spell if they want to exile my land creatures.
And I have a Mycoloth for a potential combo of saccing all the forest creatures while Yedora is out, which will then let me bring them back as forests.
I’ve had really good success with the deck so far. All the trample and cards that let me pump my creatures due to how many forests I control, Finale of Devastation, Nissa, Ascended Animist and Conduit of Worlds letting me cast them multiple times, it’s all very fun.
Oh I forgot. I’d been thinking of running stuff like Cankerbloom as well because having a creature that can kill artifacts and enchantments is better than instant spells sometimes due to the commander interaction.
Most of the cards you mentioned I haven’t heard, I’ll definitely check them out.
I haven’t considered a sac outlet, even though I see how it is useful. I guess I’d rather leave the creatures as blockers and let them die from another source.
nbarry223 on Test of Talents vs. Hallowed …
1 month ago
Oh, this question was strictly aimed at them being sideboard options. Both options are a little too narrow for me to be considered for the main (nothing feels worse than drawing a dead card).
Of all the "meta decks" in modern, Test of Talents is good against:
Cascade like Living End
most reanimation strategies
while being relevant as a hate card against their instant/sorcery sideboard options or playsets of just general problem instant/sorceries (mill, conterspell decks, etc.)
On the other hand, Hallowed Moonlight is good against:
Cascade like Living End since they all cheat in creatures as an end result
most reanimation strategies
any creature "tutor" cards like Finale of Devastation, Chord of Calling, Eldritch Evolution, Collected Company
any "infinite" creature combos for the turn at least
so, as you can see, there's quite a bit of overlap between the two cards. It almost comes down to if you want the tempo of the cantrip or want to fully remove their threat. Hallowed Moonlight's replacement effect of exiling also neuters any kind of setup which is worth mentioning as well, since that can often buy enough time to win that they don't get to cast a second copy anyway.
There's a few pros and cons to each option, and I am really struggling to determine which is "better" in a vacuum.
Profet93 on Azusa, Lost but Seeking Cthulu [Primer]
1 month ago
Gaea's Cradle or for more casual metas, Itlimoc, Cradle of the Sun as it is similar but more tame, albeit, untutorable.
Tooth and Nail > Shared Summons, as Spells stated. It's a MUCH higher ceiling and a slightly worse floor. The potential is just too high to ignore.
Ancient Greenwarden > Perennial Behemoth - Costs 1 more, can't be unearthed, but doubling land triggers is huge. I would much rather pay 1 more mana, have it tutorable by a Fierce Empath. Also note, Empath and Woodland Bellower tutor for each other. Woodland --> Fierce --> Eldrazi.
- Harrow/Kodama's Reach/Springbloom Druid - Bad for Azusa given that Azusa herself allows for multiple land drops per turn, so rather than bringing them to field, it's better to put them to hand, unless you're specifically tutoring for mass lands (boundless realms, scapeshift) or specific lands (hour of promise, crop rotation)
- Time of Need - Not bad, not good. I would much rather run a Green Sun's Zenith or a Finale of Devastation as a tutor, albeit, not for Eldrazi. The goal of Azusa typically is to ramp and draw into everything you need, making tutors less important. Not a strong cut, but worth considering IMO.
- Planar Bridge - Way too much to cast and activate, doesn't give you eldrazi cast triggers. At least tooth and nail is only 9 instead of 16 mana.
- Eldrazi Monument - Works best in token swarm decks, you don't go nearly wide enough for this to be effective. Imagine having to sac an eldrazi because they cleared your field with a wipe.
- Desolation Twin - 2x 10/10's for 10 mana. No abilities, just big bodies. I get it's an Eldrazi but why not add more ramp and draw (or even tutors for that matter) to maximize the use of your more efficient eldrazi rather than adding in a card simply because it's eldrazi.
Profet93 on Kura Tron Beatdown
2 months ago
Ancient Tomb/Castle Garenbrig/Eldrazi Temple/Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx - Ramp
Boseiju, Who Endures - Removal
Cavern of Souls - Anti blue for commander or Eldrazi
Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth - Utility, make eye of ugin + nonbasics tap for green
Yavimaya Hollow - Protection
Fetchlands - For recursion effects
Kozilek, the Great Distortion - Draw, interaction. Overall solid card with built in evasion to boot.
Scapeshift - Land tutor, finds field and make all the zombie tokens simultaneously. Even better with ancient greenwarden to double triggers
Harmonize - Decent draw spell, worth looking into
Finale of Devastation - Tutor, recursion and wincon all in 1
Green Sun's Zenith - Similar to above
enpc on Elven Kingdom
3 months ago
With elves, the big selling point is how much mana the deck can produce, which in turn allows you to run less lands. But to make this work, you should be running basically every 1 drop elf dork, i.e. Elvish Mystic, Fyndhorn Elves, Arbor Elf, hell, even Boreal Druid (since your land base is almost entirely green). Running a bunch of 3 mana ramp spells over the 1 drop mana dorks (who all progress the elf theme) seems counter productive. If you are going to run any land fetch, cards like Harvest Season which take advantage of your dork heavy build are goingto be much better since they will potentially pull 6-8 lands from the deck in one go.
Green Sun's Zenith and Chord of Calling are a bit expensive, but are definitiely worth slots in the deck if you can get a copy of them. I agree with multimedia, you don't need that many overrun effects, especially if you are running Ezuri. However if you wanted to add a card (which albeit is expensive), Finale of Devastation pulls double duty for the deck.
Yisan, the Wanderer Bard is also a nice card for elf decks as he just becomes rolling advantage.
Tur on Hidden Power - Crop Rotation
3 months ago
Hello everyone! This will be a trial forum post for a "Commander - Hidden Power" series. My goal is to show relatively inexpensive cards which are often overlooked by commander players in semi-competitive and casual play. (This post is not designed for competitive play.) If you enjoy the topic, please provide positive feedback and I will consider creating similar posts.
The powerful card I plan on discussing here is Crop Rotation.
This card under five dollars and is one of the most powerful mono-green tutors. Period. Yes, I'm counting all mono-green tutors. This includes: Worldly Tutor, Finale of Devastation, Green Sun's Zenith, Survival of the Fittest, Chord of Calling, Natural Order, Tooth and Nail, Sylvan Tutor, Time of Need, Scapeshift, Hour of Promise, Tempt with Discovery, Reshape the Earth, Boundless Realms, Traverse the Outlands, Rampant Growth, Harrow, Cultivate, Harvest Season, Explosive Vegetation, etc.
It's one color, one mana, instant, searches for any land, you can sacrifice a tapped land, and puts the land onto the battlefield untapped (unless otherwise specified).
Although, Crop Rotation is often overlooked by players because of the very expensive cards it can search and not being "flashy" enough. Yes, Crop Rotation is ideal with any of the following cards: Gaea's Cradle, Mishra's Workshop, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Serra's Sanctum, Bazaar of Baghdad, and Diamond Valley. However, suppose we don't have a one thousand dollar mana base and cannot play the land cards above. Is Crop Rotation worthless? No. It is still one of the best mono-green tutors. There are so many utility and theme lands which are excellent targets. Ramp lands and color-fixing are also viable options. Here are a few categorized ideas:
- Command Beacon / Sanctum of Eternity
- Reliquary Tower
- Scavenger Grounds / Bojuka Bog (B)
- Field of the Dead
- Rogue's Passage / Access Tunnel / Shizo, Death's Storehouse (B)
- War Room / Bonders' Enclave / Castle Locthwain (B)
- Emeria, The Sky Ruin (W) / Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle (R)
- Mystic Sanctuary (U) / Witch's Cottage (B)
- Hall of the Bandit Lord / Flamekin Village (R) / Hanweir Battlements Meld (R) / Slayers' Stronghold (WR)
- Hall of Heliod's Generosity (W) / Academy Ruins (U) / Volrath's Stronghold (B)
- Strip Mine / Wasteland / Dust Bowl / Ghost Quarter
- Maze of Ith / Mystifying Maze / Labyrinth of Skophos / Kor Haven (W) / Glacial Chasm
- High Market / Miren, the Moaning Well / Phyrexian Tower (B)
- Witch's Clinic / Vault of the Archangel (WB)
- Homeward Path
- Cavern of Souls / Boseiju, Who Shelters All
- Thespian's Stage / Vesuva
- Winding Canyons / Emergence Zone / Alchemist's Refuge (UG)
- Mikokoro, Center of the Sea / Geier Reach Sanitarium
- Castle Ardenvale (W) / Kher Keep (R)
- Castle Vantress (U) / Memorial to Genius (U) / Cephalid Coliseum (U)
- Inventors' Fair
- Karn's Bastion
- Dark Depths
- Urza's Power Plant / Urza's Mine / Urza's Tower
- Sunscorched Desert
- Windbrisk Heights (W)
- Idyllic Grange (W)
- Ghost Town / Oboro, Palace in the Clouds (U)
- Riptide Laboratory (U)
- Minamo, School at Water's Edge (U)
- Tomb Fortress (B)
- Den of the Bugbear (R)
- Goblin Burrows (R)
- Castle Embereth (R)
- Wirewood Lodge (G)
- Castle Garenbrig (G)
- Oran-Rief, the Vastwood (G) / Gavony Township (WG)
- Mosswort Bridge (G)
- Kessig Wolf Run (RG)
- Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion (WR)
- Grim Backwoods (BG)
- Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
- Urza's Saga
- Cabal Coffers (B) / Cabal Stronghold (B) / Crypt of Agadeem (B) / Lake of the Dead (B)
- Temple of the False God / Ancient Tomb
- Myriad Landscape
- Blighted Woodland (G) / Krosan Verge (WG)
- Treasure Vault
- Command Tower / Path of Ancestry / Reflecting Pool
- City of Brass / Mana Confluence / Forbidden Orchard
- The World Tree (WUBRG)
- Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth
- Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
There are many more unlisted cards in each category which could fit your specific deck.
Some of the cards listed above have some pretty cool synergies with Crop Rotation here are a few:Urza's Saga, you can let the saga get to chapter III, then with the ability on the stack sacrifice it to Crop Rotation to get both the artifact and land. Field of the Dead is ideal in every two or three color commander deck with a sufficient mana base (in fact some of my win conditions are given by Field of the Dead). You can also use Field of the Dead as a combat trick. Scavenger Grounds and Bojuka Bog are fantastic for graveyard combo disruption. Maze of Ith and Glacial Chasm will hurt your lands, but sometimes it is needed to stay alive.
Simply having the ability to greatly effect the board state using a one-mana instant speed spell is impressive: life gain, damage prevention, removing steal effects, getting around blockers, denying counterspells, combo stoppers, unlimited hand size, sacrifice engines, haste, recursion, ramp, creating token blockers. The list goes on-and-on-and-on. If fact, if you're playing 3-4 of the lands listed above you should really consider Crop Rotation in the ninety-nine.
All in all, I'm always surprised the number of deck lists which do not play Crop Rotation. This is a fantastic card and one of the best mono-green tutors. It has so much hidden power. Ask yourself if there is a nonbasic land which you are playing (or would play) that would do well with Crop Rotation.
lhetrick13 on THe last march of the ents
3 months ago
zigail - Creature cheat is something excels in...casting big stompy creatures for less or for free is a solid plan so your concept is not bad. All wallisface and I are saying is that this deck is not optimized for this strategy specifically for for Modern play because Modern is just such a harsh and angry format.
Essentially your whole deck hinges on your opening hand...you MUST have at least 2-3 lands in your opening hand, hope you draw 1-2 more in the next few turns, and hope you either start with or draw Treefolk Harbinger, Bosk Banneret, and Leaf-Crowned Elder within the first few turns...which wallisface has pointed out even if all that works out, Leaf-Crowned Elder has no built in protection and you have no ability to provide any. So this crucial lynchpin and all the setup can be complete undone by a simple removal spell, likely staling your deck entirely.
I run a deck that is "similar" to this concept of building around a single creature (Beyond the Grave (Abzan)) as it is built around Haakon, Stromgald Scourge's ability to reanimate knight creatures. Excluding the lands, the other creatures, and 4x copies of Haakon, the rest of the cards are usually focused around finding Haakon and getting him into play as soon as possible. This is done via cards like Collected Company, Eldritch Evolution, Finale of Devastation, Pyre of Heroes, Aether Vial, etc...The point I am making is that the deck has so many ways to fetch Haakon or any knight I may need really. Adding additional ways to "force" your strategy will help your deck be much more consistent. As it is right now, the ideal combo you mentioned in your comment will be pretty rare and most times, this deck will struggle to find a board presence.
Other than adding cards to help fetch Leaf-Crowned Elder more consistently, I think adding some ramp to help cast those big treefolk earlier or adding in additional ways to accelerate the deck by lowering the mana cost of those treefolk would go a long ways. An example of accelerating a deck built around big stompy creatures with mild ramp or lowering creature cost that I can provide is my dino themed deck Spared No Expense!!!. 8 cards lower the cost of dinosaurs and then I have 7 others that provide me some ramp making it so I can cast things like Regisaur Alpha or Trapjaw Tyrant on turn 3. This makes it so that despite having a >3.5 CMC, the deck is very consistent and fast. I know you mentioned you want to hit more on the creature cheat ability of Leaf-Crowned Elder but just food for thought on ways I feel the deck could potentially be improved.
Good luck and happy brewing, hope some of the material I mentioned was helpful!
Catpocolypse on The Island Awakened
3 months ago
Alright @Profet93, I'm home and ready to take a deeper dive into this.
Abundance + Sylvan Library is something I will have to test out, Abundance is always a card I keep coming back to when I'm building in green. I'll see about testing it out, my group of friends is fine with proxies so I can have a chat with them about it.
If I include Yavimaya Hollow as well as making half my forests snow covered, that brings me to 10 land cards with different names. I'm not sure I can be consistent enough with Field of the Dead for it to be worth including. Though in the future, if I slot in more land cards it is definitely worth considering.
My other explanation wasn't exactly to the point lol, so I'm gonna try to clear this up. The reason my playgroup is fine with Triumph of the Hordes is because they understand that when that card comes out, it is with the intention to end the game this turn, no waiting around, either respond or lose. Finale of Devastation doesn't have that same power in this deck simply because there isn't anything I can go and find that has the same presence or intent that Triumph of the Hordes does.
Skullclamp is definitely something I considered, though not towards my one drops. Most of them are very reliable ramp/landfall shenanigans, Llanowar Elves being the only exception, using Skullclamp on the one drops doesn't seem like the correct play to me. Using it on the elemental tokens however, I am heavily considering, as we have already discussed how good of a sac option they make for cards like Greater Good.
Burgeoning is an interesting case because sometimes it feels kind of useless, but it has also had it's moments where it becomes one of the most powerful cards in my deck. It's a risky card, but there will always be risky cards. The real reason I'm not really considering taking it out however is because my LGS only had one copy and I will honestly feel bad if I tossed $20 at a card that high in demand just to swap it out a week later.
I haven't had a chance to playtest with Greater Good yet, but I have high hopes for it, as it is significantly more reliable than Jaheira's Respite
Those are my thoughts, though unfortunately I haven't been able to back any of them up with testing yet. Interested to see what you think of my logic behind certain choices.
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