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1v1 Commander | Legal |
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Canadian Highlander | Legal |
Casual | Legal |
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Jeweled Lotus
Artifact
Sacrifice Jeweled Lotus: Add three mana of any one colour. Spend this mana only to cast your commander.
Profet93 on Azami, Lady of Sudden Victory
1 month ago
Sadly, cEDH is not my scene. From what little I know, Concentrate is not good for cEDH given you're paying 4 mana to draw 3 cards when your commander already draws cards at instant speed rather than sorcery speed.
Ancient Tomb > Temple of false
Fierce Guardianship/Force of Will/Misdirection - Free counterspell
Mana Crypt/Jeweled Lotus - Ramp
What is the purpose of Perpetual Timepiece?
Counterspell, Arcane Denial, Mana Drain > Desertion
Mind Stone > Chromatic lantern. Lantern's benefit is for multi-color decks, not mono. Coalition Relic also fits the 3cmc slot and is colored mana if you really want something similar yet better. But mindstone comes down more quickly and can be draw when you don't need it so it usually sees more play
Your avg cmc is relatively high for cEDH. Might want to bring it closer to 3.20. I can give you ideas for more cuts should you wish.
phatkattz7 on Xenegos, God of Revels 2000 …
3 months ago
So I was playing Xenagos, God of Revels the other day, when things got out of hand VERY VERY fast. I am interested to hear any experiences others may have had with a non Cedh, power 9/10 deck without an infinite loop, that got out of hand quickly. Secondly, if I am wrong about my damage somewhere, let me know, I am doing this off the top of my head and during the game, I was shaking with excitement and was struggling to think lol.
T1) Mana Crypt, Taiga, Combat Celebrant.
T2) Mountain, Jeweled Lotus, Sneak Attack.
T3) Mountain, Sacrifice Jeweled Lotus, Cast Xenagos, God of Revels, Leaving Mana Crypt and a Mountain untapped to cast Wheel of Fortune.
T4) Play Kessig Wolf Run.
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Sneak Attack in Worldspine Wurm, Pathbreaker Ibex, and Old Gnawbone.
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Trigger Xenagos, God of Revels on Worldspine Wurm making it 30/30 trample.
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Move to combat Exerting Combat Celebrant for double combat, and Triggering Pathbreaker Ibex to give everyone +30/+30.
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Worldspine Wurm hits (60), Old Gnawbone hits (37), Combat Celebrant hits (34) Pathbreaker Ibex hits (33).
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Old Gnawbone creates 164 Treasure tokens. I Sacrifice 164 Treasure tokens to Kessig Wolf Run, to give Worldspine Wurm +162/+0 making Worldspine Wurm a 222/60.
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Now I untap and move to a second combat phase because of Combat Celebrant, triggering Xenagos, God of Revels again, to make Worldspine Wurm a 444/120, Pathbreaker Ibex Triggers giving everyone +444/+444.
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Worldspine Wurm hits for 888 damage, Old Gnawbone hits for 481 damage, and Pathbreaker Ibex hits for 477 Damage. Dealing 2010 damage this turn 4.
Niko9 on The best card game system, …
4 months ago
And yep, Jeweled Lotus is crazy. I haven't run into it in the wild just because of price probably, which may be the worst game balancing ever : ) but in watching cEDH it's just so crazy with partner commanders. I'm just going to continue to believe it doesn't exist until it destroys me.
Tsukimi on Alela's Huge Goads
6 months ago
LynxGoddess First off thank you so much for all of this! My friends and I play with proxies, so price is not an issue for us. You caught me right before I printed the final deck and I am glad I can make some of these edits in time!
Yea can you tell I don't build blue black often? I'll swap one of the diamonds for Dimir Signet, any thoughts on other cheap mana rocks I may have missed? Yes we proxy but I try to avoid crazy expensive/competitive cards like Jeweled Lotus. I have somehow never seen Tolaria West before, excellent suggestion. I don't play black often so it seemed like Cabal/Urborg would be fun if I could get it off, but not necessary for the deck. Appreciate the land suggestions as well, never thought of using all those fetches for UB mana correction, gonna make those changes now.
The mana curve is a lil too high for sure, was definitely just excited to build typal faeries haha. Nymris is an easy cut, and I'll work on lowering the mana curve so there's more room for shenanigans. Cards like Hullbreaker Horror, Kindred Dominance, Tegwyll's Scouring etc are mainly fun pet cards that I'm going to try out, but are first on my to cut list since they're so high CMC wise. My playgroup decided to work away from every deck having power cards like Cyclonic Rift or Toxic Deluge in every deck with those colors, so I've been trying to find fun (if not less efficient) alternatives like Raise the Palisade.
If you ever need any deck suggestions let me know, this was a huge help and I really appreciate the detailed feedback!
ASalesman on Unesh, Ultimate Guide (Tribal)
6 months ago
A controversial substitution perhaps, but deserved
Replacing Omniscience with Moonsilver Key.
Why not Omniscence?
- Omniscence is too mana intensive in this deck. In your opening hand it is completely a dead card 90% of the time. In the 10% you have a line to play it in your opening hand, you are putting all your eggs into 1 basket. Omniscence is too high risk for the reward. If this spell doesn't resolve (and it likely won't at a cEDH table) you lose the game.
- Even the times it does resolve in the early game, your hand doesn't always have enough steam to win outright.
- It is important for all cEDH decks to consider how a card will function in your opening hand as well as later in the game. I'll write more about this topic in the current theory module of the guide. This inconsistency in the opening hand is what makes it bad. It is true that other cards in the deck are similar, but they aren't as mana intensive as omniscience. Omniscence in my opening hand has lost too many games.
- Omniscence is essentially a combo by itself while Unesh is on the field. It is clunky at best because it doesn't always guarantee you get to the bottom of your deck unlike Rite of Replication. Recent powerful revisions of the deck have led to anti-synergy with this card. Example 1, removal of Long-Term Plans. Example 2, the addition of Palinchron makes infinite mana and storm more attainable than with Omniscence due to the reduced mana cost.
Why Moonsilver Key?
- I think this card might be as much of a blindside to you as it was to me. I knew Omniscence had to go, so I started researching what I would replace it with. And I found this card. This card is the most opposite of a clunky opening hand card I could find. Rather than having a dead Omniscence in your hand, you can spend your early turns playing this card and getting an important mana rock like Jeweled Lotus & Mana Crypt or an Island.
- The deck has been short on mana rocks. With a mana rock tutor in this slot combined with Virtue of Knowledge and fetch lands I have noticed a significant uptick in ramp reliability in my opening hands. I have been throwing around ideas like Mox Diamond, Mox Opal, and Mox Amber but none of these cards reliably solve Unesh's problems in the opening hand. I also considered Lion's Eye Diamond which seems a little too high risk IMO, because then your fate relies on the subsequent BFOF from casting Unesh. The runner-up contender was Fellwar Stone, essentially a worse Arcane Signet wouldn't be bad. It is important for Unesh to ramp out ASAP, and having a mana artifact tutor in the early game seems to help with that plan, and it thins the deck.
- Minor point, it enjoys synergy with the adventure mode of Virtue of Knowledge.
What are your thoughts on this sub? Could I be doing better here?
AlpacaTribal on Zoom Zoom
7 months ago
I added in Samut, Vizier of Naktamun as you suggested and removed Mistcutter Hydra. I also removed Inspired Tinkering and added in Mayhem Devil.
I also took out the two pathway lands and added Goldspan Dragon and Chord of Calling into the list.
I'm concerned about if and how I should go about keeping my commander safe, since the treasure ramp would be crucial. I'm also wondering if I should save up some money for a Jeweled Lotus so that I can sometimes turbo out my Ognis, the Dragon's Lash.
Anger and Professional Face-Breaker are in the list, and I'm grateful that you suggested them as it confirms that I should keep them in.
Ogre Battledriver looks like a fun and powerful card to include, but I'm unsure of what card I should cut for it.
Rocketman988 on Demon Till Your Dreams Come True
7 months ago
In addition to the low average CMC of the deck, the deck runs the following 17 non-land cards to satisfy its mana requirements: Jeweled Lotus, Mana Crypt, Sol Ring, Dockside Extortionist, Dream Devourer, Hellcarver Demon, Herald of Slaanesh, Rakdos, Lord of Riots, The Balrog of Moria, Treasonous Ogre, Burnt Offering, Cabal Ritual, Dark Ritual, Sacrifice, Songs of the Damned, Jeska's Will, and Seize the Spotlight.
Because many of the effects are single use or sacrificed to Rakdos, we also run 22 cards that can find or draw the above cards in addition to more lands: Burning-Rune Demon, Doom Whisperer, Immersturm Raider, Rune-Scarred Demon, Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire, Villis, Broker of Blood, Demonic Consultation, Entomb, Thrill of Possibility, Valakut Awakening Flip, Buried Alive, Cathartic Reunion, Demonic Tutor, Doomsday, Faithless Looting, Jeska's Will, Mizzix's Mastery, Reforge the Soul, Seize the Spotlight, Wheel of Fortune, Wheel of Misfortune, and Liliana's Contract.
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