Hymn to Tourach
Target player discards two cards at random.
|Have (3)||rockleemyhero , sonnet666 , jpv|
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|Eternal Masters (EMA)||Uncommon|
|Vintage Masters (VMA)||Uncommon|
|From the Vault: Twenty (V13)||Mythic Rare|
|Masters Edition (MED)||Common|
|Fallen Empires (FEM)||Common|
|Promo Set (000)||Common|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Hymn to Tourach occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.7%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%
Hymn to Tourach Discussion
4 days ago
1 week ago
Since this is a DCM deck, here are a couple staples to consider:
Demonic Tutor is a no brainer.
Liliana of the Veil is another staple.
You need some more worthy reanimation target, one of my favorite being Sire Of Insanity .
1 month ago
Hey, most of my suggestions were for multiplayer Commander where opponent disruption is very powerful since you have minimum three opponents. In 1v1 Commander especially if you're mostly just against your wife then I don't think more disruption is the direction to go. Making it so your wife can't play cards, use her cards or interact with you will not be fun for her.
I think aristocrats and life drain are the best causal directions to go with Orzhov because Orzhov colors have the most cards that have synergy with these themes. I however don't think Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts is a good General for aristocrats. Not when there's better Orzhov options such as Teysa, Orzhov Scion and Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim . Both creatures who are sac outlets and in the maybeboard. Aristocrats need two main things a sac outlet and reanimated/recurable creatures. You want your General to be able to do one of these two things which Teysa can't do. Other than Blood Artist the aristocrat theme is more your creatures dying not your opponents. Teysa's ability and the main theme of your deck is to kill your opponents creatures not your own.
As a General for a Voltron theme Teysa is unrealistic as the primary creature to equip to. Which in my opinion means that Voltron is not a good strategy with Teysa since you want to be equipping your General to do Commander damage. If you're just using Teysa as a win condition and equipping her with a single equipment then that's fine, but that's not Voltron.
In my comment I said other than Lashwrithe . Lashwrithe can be a win condition when equipped to Teysa which can equip for free (4 life). It's an equipment that doesn't require a creature to be good because it creates a creature when it ETB. In Commander, decks spots are few, taking up spots with equipment when you're only wanting to equip to a seven mana creature is not helping your deck. Instead use the spots with cards that work better with your overall deck's strategy.
If you play an aristocrat theme then Teysa shouldn't be the win condition of your deck instead it should be a combo with an aristocrat to drain your opponents. For this reason Teysa is not needed as a General because she's not going to be part of any aristocrat combo you use. When playing combos you want to use your General as part of a combo which helps with consistency of being able to assemble the combo (one less card you have to find).
If you're playing 1v1 Commander not multiplayer Commander then single discard that only affects one opponent are good. Hymn to Tourach can be powerful in 1v1. If you're choosing to change your deck into aristocrats then don't play Hushbringer :) It's hate against aristocrat strategies since it shuts down dies effects and ETB effects. Not to give her any ideas ;), but Hushbringer is a card your wife should play against you since it will demand an answer from you.
1 month ago
3 months ago
Some Shrieking Affliction or even The Rack would probably fit in this deck, as you've got a heap of discard effects in it. Hymn to Tourach is maybe not casual friendly, but it's really nasty, nasty enough to win the odd game by itself nearly. I think Appetite is an odd card to use if you are running 4 of a card to animate from the opponent's graveyard, and I would sub something else in for it probably. A few Dark Ritual wouldn't hurt, and they are pretty budget.
4 months ago
Must say, surprised at how devastating The Rack and Bottomless Pit are together, even in a deck lacking the great Hymn to Tourach , a card that I should think you'd consider running maybe. As you're in Vintage, why not at least 2 Mind Twist ? they can end a game on turn two with a Dark Ritual.
4 months ago
ewok2000 Chaos Warp is a card i really like to move in the mainboard because i can deal with any pice of hate which can prevent the combo going off, Vandalblast too is a really nice card to run for the same motivation, the other 2 enchantments are really good especially the curse but you will 90% of the time have to discard them with Anje Falkenrath just for cycling purposes, Bone Miser can go infinite value but his 5 cmc without madness discount make him too slow, same for Solemn Simulacrum K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth considering that the deck need to combo off at turn 3, max turn 4, i really haven't time to play those dudes even if they are really strong, maybe they can be played in a more thematic/casual build but too clunky for cEDH (edit: that's true even for Perpetual Timepiece and for Grimoire of the Dead ). Blasphemous Act is a card i totally forgot about and can be very effective resetting the board state if we have to wipe out 5/6 creatures, i don't like effects like Dark Deal , Wheel of Fortune , Gamble etc. i feel those cards too random in their effect so i decided to cut them entirely, i don't even play Hymn to Tourach so i can't consider to play those cards but is only a gamestyle issue, otherwise they can fit really well in this strategy but i don't feel lucky enough to play them xd. ty for the ideas i really appreciate it :D
4 months ago
Thanks again Massacar,
I had Dark Deal in an early version, but dont love that it hits me for minus one draw as well. and the one time use for Hymn to Tourach was what kept me from picking it. But that being said, i really like Arterial Flow .... 3 mana for opponents only to discard 2 each.. beautiful - and chances are i will have a vamp in play as well. That one is definitely going on my buy list.
I have played this a couple times, and I find it super fun but have absolutely no win condition on it (which is fine for now as long as we have fun playing), but not sure about creatures yet. Of the 3, i like Liliana's Specter only because its an ETB and not a hit the opponent ability. Will know more after more playtesting