Thoughtseize

Legality

Format Legality
Noble Legal
Hero Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Casual Legal
MTGO Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Masterpiece Series: Amonkhet Invocations (AKHMPS) None
Theros (THS) Rare
Lorwyn (LRW) Rare

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Thoughtseize

Sorcery

Target player reveals his or her hand. You choose a nonland card from it. That player discards that card. You lose 2 life.

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Thoughtseize Discussion

sylvannos on To be aggro or not ...

55 minutes ago

Aggro, hands down. You aren't going to out midrange traditional Rock variants...you're just playing a worse version of the deck at that point.

Build around Collected Company. Flipping over Captivating Vampire, Stromkirk Captain, Drana, Liberator of Malakir, or Olivia, Mobilized for War is scary. Even flipping over Blood Artists can represent lethal.

One of my buddies at my LGS plays CoCo Vampires (hilariously dubbed "Count Chocula") and has a lot of success with it. Bloodghasts are really hard to get rid of, while Collected Company floods the board. It makes it really hard for your opponent to boardwipe. I think he's strictly in due to budget, however.

I'm not sure on his exact list. I think it's something like:

4x Bloodstained Mire
2x Cavern of Souls
1x Dryad Arbor
1x Forest
4x Mutavault
2x Overgrown Tomb
3x Swamp
1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4x Verdant Catacombs
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22 Lands

4x Blood Artist
4x Bloodghast
2x Captivating Vampire
1x Drana, Liberator of Malakir
2x Gatekeeper of Malakir
4x Gifted Aetherborn
2x Guul Draz Vampire
4x Kalastria Highborn
1x Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
4x Vampire Lacerator
2x Vampire Nighthawk
2x Viscera Seer
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32 Creatures

4x Collected Company
2x Fatal Push
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6 Other Spells

3x Abrupt Decay
1x Choke
2x Fatal Push
2x Fulminator Mage
2x Gatekeeper of Malakir
2x Liliana of the Veil
1x Maelstrom Pulse
2x Thoughtseize
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15 Sideboard Cards

I'm not 100% sure this is his exact list, only from what I can recall playing against it.

JoshFox on Abzan Beatdown

3 hours ago

phdaemon thanks again for turning me on to Untap! It is fun to play test and I'm learning a lot. First thing I learned, Memphismaymagic5, is Mana Tithe is out. Also, going to 3X Thoughtseize and 3X Inquisition of Kozilek to preserve life.

No decision yet on if I can live without Lingering Souls and Noble Hierarch yet. And no decision on Gavony Township versus Stirring Wildwood. Both come in handy. If I go back to Noble and Souls I think Gavony gets the nod, but if I press forward with the current build Wildwood really helps with board wipes.

JoshFox on MB Discard Control

1 day ago

The only place Ravenous Rats hurts you is against a jerk like me who plays with Loxodon Smiter and Wilt-Leaf Liege. Looks like you've got a play set of Inquisition of Kozilek. You could bump up the Duress like solarPULSAR recommends or you could spring for the extra $$$ and get the big daddy Thoughtseize.

SoakingDrop52 on Improving my black devotion

1 day ago

Dear community,

I'm building a personal black devotion deck Black Merchant of Devotion. It's a personal building, no pre-constructed list used. I'm bit concerned against decks like affinity and combos.

-I use Black Knight due to the increase of white removal and Lightning Greaves to defend for a cheap cost my Phyrexian Obliterator.

Any suggestion about speeding up the deck and make it a good all'around competitive? The aim is to stay under 300 dollars.

Thanks for your help

phdaemon on Abzan Beatdown

1 day ago

I'm playing midrange abzan and even I don't play 4x Thoughtseize :)

JoshFox on The Struggle of Life

2 days ago

christ4like2l0ve great deck! I also built an alternate Abzan strategy and love to see you break the mold. For land I would love to see you get to 23. I would play a few different times with different Utility lands and move forward with one 3X or two 2X. Great options for you are Gavony Township, Vault of the Archangel, Ghost Quarter, and Shambling Vent.

In the MB Birds of Paradise could become Noble Hierarch, Assualt Formation could become Thoughtseize. And in the SB I prefer Thrun, the Last Troll over Sigarda.

I hope this helps a little. The good and bad of Junk is you can tweak it indefinitely and its never "right". I would love another set of eyes on my attempt at a planeswalkerless Abzan if you have time: Abzan Beatdown. Good luck at the table!

christ4like2l0ve on The Struggle of Life

2 days ago

@zephyr_chang

Assuming we did remove those six, I would almost certainly add another Scavenging Ooze and another Lingering Souls. As far as discard spells go, is Thoughtseize my only viable option at this point? I have not played with any of the creatures you mentioned above but I like them all and could see each fitting some way into the deck. What would you say to something like +1Tireless Tracker +1Anafenza, the Foremost and +2 Courser of Kruphix? Am I stretching myself too thin with something like that or am I arming myself with valuable tools?

I greatly appreciate all of your input. This deck has been lots of fun to build and to play.

Hunson_Abadeer on UB Faeries

3 days ago

I'm a fan of the faerie play style, it is a lot of fun

Oboro, Palace in the Clouds works well to revolt Fatal Push.

Also I would recommend some turn one discard spells. Ideally Thoughtseize and Inquisition of Kozilek, maybe a total of 4-6 I would say.

Hope this helps! Best of luck

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