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Target player reveals his or her hand. You choose a nonland card from it. That player discards that card. You lose 2 life.
1 day ago
Hey man !!
I would suggest 24 lands cause of you have a lot of drop 4+ and you are using Marsh Flats .......so......
You are running 4x Serra the Benevolent , in this case i don't think that you really need Gideon, Ally of Zendikar and Sorin, Solemn Visitor (I know that they are very good but Serra the Benevolent is the best by far). Sorin, Solemn Visitor is good because the +1 lifelink but if you use Vault of the Archangel .......is the same idea.
Finally, I would like to say that BW tokens is an amazzing deck because of Thoughtseize and Inquisition of Kozilek on early game. If you don't wanna use this 2 cards, run to mono white tokens (Cheaper and more aggressive.
Mana base: 4x Marsh Flats
Sorry for my English, I'm from Brazil kkkkkkk
Espero ter ajudado ^^
2 days ago
eatmygender thanks for the suggestions! Sadly I really lack on experience in competitive mtg but I see why you don't like Modern meta right now. I was thinking about Thoughtseize or Inquisition of Kozilek for decks like Archlight Izzet, you know something that could work well together with Surgical Extraction or Slaughter Games . Anyway, I don't have the budget to afford a really good deck to approach tournaments so I guess I'll stick with matches with locals/friends for a while. Thanks again!
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3 days ago
So I finally got around to suggestions :P
4 days ago
I will preface this by saying black and zombies are my favorite color and tribe respectively but I have not played very much modern.
Vampire Sovereign is not a zombie, and the deck has enough endurance and recursion to not really need flyers or direct damage, and the sovereign is a bit expensive. Cryptbreaker results in more zombies and more cards in the graveyard, which is also more zombies, and will refill your hand if the game goes late or you are playing defensively. Alternatively, if you do want the lifesteal instead of being more focused on aggro, raydenkiller's suggestion of Gray Merchant of Asphodel (Gary for short) is good for the reasons he stated.
Foul-Tongue Shriek is cheaper than Sovereign's Bite and will often be better for closing out a game. The big downside is it is more restrictive in that it can only be cast effectively when you are attacking with multiple creatures.
Playing only Go for the Throat is risky if you end up playing against an artifact deck, so it could be wise to hedge into the other similar cards like Cast Down and Doom Blade . A great place for these kinds of cards is the sideboard, running 2x of Go for the Throat and Doom Blade in the both the mainboard and sideboard is an easy distribution which would be hard to go wrong with.
I don't know much about burn or how to fight it but in my experience control is beaten through hand attack and playing more aggressively. In deckbuilding you'd want to include cards like Duress in the sideboard (or Thoughtseize if you're made of money) and to make your mana curve lower. Zombies should have a better match against control than a lot of aggro/midrange decks because the creatures recurring from the graveyard makes their counters much worse.
Liliana, Untouched By Death is not the best option for a zombies deck. It isn't necessarily bad, it just isn't very impactful for its mana cost. A more focused effect like a creature or Liliana's Mastery is probably better.
I'd recommend doing some research into zombie decks in modern, seeing what cards they play and seeing if and how they fit into your deck.
I hope you do well with zombies!
6 days ago
Thank you for the kind words, it's much appreciated. Off the top of my head, the best tip I can give you for learning to play the deck is to not get frustrated. Ad Nauseam is a deck that rewards patience and the ability to move seamlessly from game to game without getting rattled. The most common mistake I see players picking up the deck make is giving up after losing game one and counting themselves out; or yelling when their Spoils of the Vault exiles Lightning Storm and Laboratory Maniac . Like most combo decks the list is made to be consistent but every once and awhile it just doesn't work. You really need to learn to accept this fact and focus on the games ahead.
Another tip I can give you, which I allude to in the primer, is to begin evaluating decks not on what they are, but rather on how they can interact with us. Honestly at this point when I face jund I don't actually write down jund when recording my matchup at a tournament, I usually just write "Discard/life." Evaluating decks in this way makes sideboarding easier, and gives you a better idea of when it is possible to go off. Traditionally, a deck will attack us in 3 ways, via discard, via pressuring our life total, or via counterspells (there are others but these are the most common). The worst matchups are the ones that can attack us on multiple angles, hence why Grixis Death's Shadow, which attacks us on all 3, is a bad matchup, whereas burn, life total, is a good matchup. The deck takes more meta knowledge than most would assume as you really have to know how your opponent is going to interact and beat you.
The final tip I can think of off the top of my head is to be conscious of your sideboard, this is a deck that is very easy to overboard with. Remember we are a combo deck, so our 60 is engineered to be as consistent at possible at getting that combo, introducing new cards compromises that consistency somewhat in order to remove angles of attack that will beat us before we have a chance to win. I still need to find the time to type up my sideboard guide on here for your use but keep that in mind. Sometimes a card like Echoing Truth may look fine in a matchup such as tron, but in reality, is this really better than any other card in our deck? Especially considering we are cutting our worst card in Phyrexian Unlife for the 2 Thoughtseize ? The answer is no, and getting yourself to the point of evaluating what is coming out is key for playing Ad Nauseam.
Of course if you have any more questions or more specific questions about anything from sequencing to Pentad Prism math, I am more than happy to answer, just leave a comment on this page.
As for your budget concerns, can I ask what budget you are working with? My list due to the foils doesn't really accurately depict the price of the deck, with no foils I believe it is about $450-$500 making it one of the cheapest competitive modern decks. If that is still too high I would say the first thing I would do is cut Gemstone Mine for a Dreadship Reef and a basic, you lose some consistency but if you are looking to get in on a budget that would be a start, though in the long term you should invest in those. Leyline of Sanctity is a must in my opinion but if you are dying to play the deck it is one of the most expensive cards, and you can choose a variety of options from my list above, again though I must stress that I would not recommend any of this unless there really is no choice, both "cuts" are really must-haves for the deck. Everything else really is necessary unfortunately or you risk just not having the mana to support what you are doing. I also think Peer Through Depths is cheaper than Spoils of the Vault so you could run that version of the deck. Otherwise, talk to your local meta and ask about maybe proxying a few cards while you learn, tell your opponents they can have the match win if they are strict but get in the game time.
Finally, sorry for the novel, my attitude towards new standard sets like War of the Spark is always to approach it optimistically but, as history holds, we don't get many new toys from these sets, so I'm excited by the potential, but I'm not holding my breath for anything particularly special. Modern Horizons on the other hand is both very exciting, and incredibly scary. To start with the positive side, it's impossible to speculate on what new-designed cards could be in the set so I'll stay away from those, but in terms of reprints, I would love to see Flusterstorm reprinted, I think it would be a consideration for the sideboard as it is in legacy ANT, I also think it would be cool to see cards like Pulverize (a fun toy that could be cool to build with) or especially Xantid Swarm , though both seem unlikely. Flusterstorm I think has a chance so that is what I am holding out hope for, though buying judge foils will suck a little bit. In short, there is a ton of potential for reprints or even new cards that could add to the deck which makes me very excited moving forward. The other edge of the sword with this is that, like most modern decks, there is the risk that the set makes the deck virtually unplayable, that it gets pushed out. I see the chances of this happening being low but the possibility is scary and definitely something to be aware of, if nothing else I am assuming I will have some new hate cards that I have to learn to deal with.
If you made it this far, thank you, I hope that answers your questions, and if you have any more questions let me know as I'm more than happy to answer.
6 days ago
I am a huge fan of
I would suggest Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth in place of Stirring Wildwood . Also, 24 lands seems appropriate. (9 4cmc cards with no ramp). Mutagenic Growth seems unnecessary. Kambal, Consul of Allocation should be in the SB. Swap it for a Thoughtseize .
Also, if you're gonna run green, run Assassin's Trophy . If you're gonna run white, run Path to Exile .
6 days ago
First thing I would do is invest in fetches and shocks for the UB version, this will make it much faster, allowing a turn 2 tas. Then I would get Thoughtseize .
This is by no means an optimal version of the budget version but it would be my starting point if I was to play the deck! You'll also need a side but that will be based on your metta. Good luck!!
1 week ago
Thoughtseize occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%
All decks: 0.69%
All decks: 1.7%