Thoughtseize

Legality

Format Legality
Arena [BETA] Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Hero Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
MTGO Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Iconic Masters (IMA) Rare
Masterpiece Series: Amonkhet Invocations (AKHMPS) None
Theros (THS) Rare
Lorwyn (LRW) Rare

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Thoughtseize

Sorcery

Target player reveals his or her hand. You choose a nonland card from it. That player discards that card. You lose 2 life.

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Thoughtseize Discussion

ToolmasterOfBrainerd on Nyx Midrange

4 hours ago

3 out of 10? I don't want to come across as harsh, but this won't fare well in competitive modern. It looks like a blast to play in casual and has the right idea, however most games of modern are over in 4-6 turns.

Remove all 6 and 7 drops and most 3, 4, and 5 drops. Add more one drops like Fatal Push, Thoughtseize, and Inquisition of Kozilek. Bontu's Last Reckoning is a powerful way to keep aggro decks in check, but best off on the sideboard.

Tron is a painful deck. Frankly I don't have good advice on how to approach them. Thoughtseize into Liliana of the Veil is miserable for them, but then you have to own Liliana and even then it doesn't always work.

Silverdrake on esper controll

17 hours ago

Hey there, I've been playing Esper control on and off for the past couple years (playing Azorius when I get tired of Esper) and I've got a couple suggestions.

For counterspells, Remand is a great card and at first it feels like an awesome control card, but in practice it plays as much more of a tempo piece than an actual control spell. You may be better off running something that actually deals with the threat (putting it in the graveyard) rather than just delaying the inevitable, like Spell Snare. Supreme Will is another option you might want to try 1-2 of. Not playing any double blue does shut you out of some of the most powerful countermagic like Disallow, Cryptic Command, and Logic Knot, so I'd recommend you reconsider that bit of your gameplan, but know that you do have better options than Remand even if you decide to stick with only single blue cards. In terms of number, I'd say 5-10 is the range you should shoot for, but the actual sweet spot is up to you to determine.

For card advantage, I'd agree that a second Search for Azcanta  Flip is the right choice. Note that even if you draw both, the flip ability is a 'may' effect, so you can flip one, then play the second and not flip it so you can keep the effects of both. I'd also suggest trading the Serum Visions for Opts. Serum Visions is similar to Remand in that it's a very powerful card, but it fits best in a different kind of deck - you don't need to fix your draws for a combo piece nearly so much as you need to hold up mana for counters and removal, so the instant speed part of Opt becomes relevant. Lastly, as I already mentioned, Supreme Will is an often overlooked modal spell that does excellent work digging for an answer or win condition when you need one.

Now for my personal thoughts - 9 Planeswalkers + 4 Lingering Souls + 2 Monastery Mentor = 15 non-control cards. Admittedly they do have some control elements to them, but even so dedicating a quarter of your deck to what is essentially just win conditions is something you're likely going to struggle with in a control deck. You're going to find too often you have a handful of cards that can help win the game once your in control, but no cards to stop your opponent from completely taking over. I'd recommend you cut to at most 7 Planeswalkers + 4 Lingering Souls. Monastery Mentor fits in the same category as Remand and Serum Visions in that it's powerful, but a control deck isn't necessarily the right home for it. It fits much cleaner in a straight tempo deck.


Now, keep in mind this is all just my opinions and you're free to build your deck however you like. They are, however, well informed and experienced opinions.If I had to make a loose recommendation I'd say you should cut 3x Remand, 4x Serum Visions, 1x Liliana of the Veil, 1x Jace, Vryn's Prodigy  Flip, and 2x Monastery Mentor to replace them with 2x Spell Snare, 2x Supreme Will, 4x Opt, 2x Damnation, and 1x Thoughtseize.

Sideboard is, as you said, very meta dependant. If you let me know what your meta is like I can help with that too

ArchonBlue on 8 rack

1 day ago

blueisnofun update your decklist, also I'd suggest you look into Hero's Downfall and bringing Funeral Charm up to a 4 of on the budget side. If you're willing to spend a little more money, I think 3x Thoughtseize and 4x Polluted Delta could go a long way towards making the deck more competitive.

If you want to splash a little white to deal with Leyline of Sanctity, I can help you do that in a budget friendly way. Just let me know!

JoeNathan37 on Say My Name

1 day ago

Thoughtseize fits your deck perfectly, and is basically a better version of Duress and especially Divest. It’s significantly more expensive but if you ever feel like upgrading your deck I’d start here

EBTDizzle on The Horde

2 days ago

At first glance, it looks like this deck may be a little light on mana, especially considering it averages about 2.5 mana per spell. I think Seal Away may be a fair cut to get more consistency. I also think Anguished Unmaking is a bit expensive. Why not turn those into Thoughtseize or Inquisition of Kozilek? Those cards would be able to do similar things with much less investment. And they'd allow you to glimpse your opponent's hand, which is very valuable on its own.

Good deck and fun concept!

cplvela0811 on FirePox

4 days ago

redbird97:

Hey again. Unfortunately, at - I strongly feel that Fulminator Mage x Blood Moon take priority with the game plan. However, if I were playing Burn, I would accept that suggestion. Thank you again.

Prehcise:

Thank you. I have been tempted, for Faithless Looting. I really agree with the idea of -4 Faithless Looting -2 Tormenting Voice, for +4 Thoughtseize + 2 Grim Discovery. TS is just greater against Tron.

Prehcise on FirePox

5 days ago

Having 4x Inquisition of Kozilek would probably be a good move considering they shouldn't have access to a lot of mana. Maybe a couple Thoughtseize.

cplvela0811 on One Maralen, One Orb, and none shall play.

1 week ago

Nice! When I was playing with the deck - Dark Confidant and Anticipate were my go to cards. The reason being was that they get you more cards without "drawing" them.

The typical dream play;

Turn 1 Inquisition of Kozilek/Thoughtseize.

Turn 2 Dark Confidant

Turn 3 Maralen of the Mornsong

Turn 4 Mindlock Orb

+1 by the way!

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