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Demonic Tutor Discussion
1 day ago
Hey So I am constantly trying to make this better or more consistent, I'm actually headed to pickup a Keranos, God of Storms to finish out my god collection. If nothing else the deck is fun to play cause you can use all the best cards from every color, ie, Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Time Walk, Time Warp, Birds of Paradise, Regrowth, etc. I never seem to have mana troubles so that part is never a problem, however, living long enough to turn all the god's into creatures has been a challenge. I see you built your deck with more of an enchantress style, which is cool, and I have considered it, except for the fact my other favorite deck is my enchantress deck, and all my good enchantresses are in that one, lol. You have some nice cards that I don't have. How well does your deck work, is it Consistent?
1 day ago
Some really good cards for Oloro are Test of Endurance and Felidar Sovereign since Oloro just kinda sits his lazy ass in the command zone forever, you'll be gaining a heap of life and these cards make you win if you have a certain amount of life, a combo that is good for any life gain oriented decks is the Exquisite Blood and Sanguine Bond combo as all it takes to trigger is your gain 2 life at upkeep trigger and you win.
Not got enough card draw? fret not as cards like Greed and Necropotence can provide you with it at a cheap one life per card. if your creatures are killed, use Phyrexian Reclamation. Want even more life? try Paradox Haze to give you not one upkeep, BUT TWO.
I would also recommend a few tutors as black is by far the strongest colour for tutors. I would recommend Vampiric Tutor, Demonic Tutor, Diabolic Tutor, Diabolic Revelation, Increasing Ambition, Lim-Dul's Vault and anything else.
The usual win condition I see with Oloro decks is they combo off and win that way, some combos that work well with Oloro other than the Exquisite/bond combo is probably the following Reveillark/Karmic Guide+ any sac outlet and something dumb like Blood Artist or Zulaport Cutthroat
create infinite mana somehow and then play Debt to the Deathless to drain everyone to death.
overall I would say this deserves an upvote because as much as I hate Oloro decks, I'll admit they are effective at what they do.
2 days ago
On the "Constructed Criticism" note, it could simply be that he is pointing out that it may not be worth the effort to do this overall and to maybe not waste your time. If that is the case sure you don't have to agree with his point but I would say it is an attempt to help with at the vary least to not waste your time.
I however see it as even if most games you don't have the right card to go grab from outside the game at least it's a Demonic Tutor for +2 mana and that's not that bad.
This all being said even if you don't agree with what he says you don't need to jump all over him and be rude yourself when alias42 wasn't rude to start or in response to your response to him.
2 days ago
Some additional cards I would suggest would be Bitterblossom as that is a lock down with Contamination. Beseech the Queen is also a cheap tutor if Demonic Tutor and Vampiric Tutor is out of the budget.
Hope that helps!
3 days ago
For a deck like this, I could imagine you can drop the normal mill theme, blue, and that whole part, and go straight combo on a reasonable budget, tossing in Dark Ritual, Sign in Blood (can start the loop if you target your opponent!), Necropotence, Demonic Tutor, Cabal Ritual, or whatever other cards you think work to get you to it with speed and efficiency!
1 week ago
Hey Aaerys, I used to run a Sen Triplets EDH deck also back in the day. Here is some insight which I hope you will find hopeful.
A couple questions, what is the budget are you working with? What is your main goal when you play with this deck? (Is it to control the game, deny resources, or stall until you combo?) What is the your playgroup level like?
Based on what you said your issues were while playing the deck, off the top of my head is to run more tutors, i.e. Demonic Tutor, Beseech the Queen, Vampiric Tutor (As you listed in your side board), Imperial Seal. You are in Esper colors which allows for optimal control of the boardstate.
To also answer your question you posted in your deck description, I would agree in turning it to a more control piece shell with more interaction. Cut out all unnecessary dead cards and add in cards such as Path to Exile, Delay, Mana Drain, Flusterstorm, Silence, Pact of Negation, Force of Will, Chain of Vapor, Mental Misstep, Swan Song. Ramp package is also quite vital for a control Sen Triplet shell, you should run almost all efficient 2 cmc and less rocks.
Some cards for ramp, Dimir Signet, Orzhov Signet, Azorius Signet, Mana Vault, Mana Crypt, Lotus Petal, Fellwar Stone, Mind Stone, Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Progress, if you have the budget Mox Diamond, Mox Opal, or Grim Monolith.
If you have any other questions to help refining deck, I'll be happy to help!
1 week ago
I'll check it out! Olivia does seem to have a lot of synergy with graveyard retrieval so I'll probably add more synergy with her ability for sure.
I'm also heavily considering adding the wombo combo of: Sanguine Bond and Exquisite Blood for the quad kill possibilities. I'll take a closer look at your deck when I get off of work, definitely rethinking decent amounts of my decks structure.
Cards definitely getting thrown in no matter what are: Olivia Voldaren (who thinking about it also makes creatures vampires lol)
Cards possibly going in: Aggravated Assault, Anger, Anowon, the Ruin Sage, Crypt Ghast, Dark Ritual, Diabolic Tutor, Demonic Tutor, Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief, Nirkana Revenant, Rakdos Charm, Shred Memory, Sol Ring, Squee, Goblin Nabob, Insurrection
1 week ago
Now, there are several options for that:
- Find a list online (cube tutor is great) and acquire those cards.
- See the latest WOTC list on the FOTM MTGO cube.
But to do that, you must first determine what kind of cube you want:
- Common cube is cheap but lacks a lot of things.
- Common/uncommon cube is a good balance of everything.
- Rare level of cards - most number of possiblities, but also expensive.
- Legacy/vintage level cube - print out all the cards on a nice sturdy paper (300g), with the best color printer you can find and proxy them. Much cheaper than actually buying a single ABUR dual.