Rotting Rats

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Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Casual Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Planechase (HOP) Common
Conflux (CON) Common

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Rotting Rats

Creature — Zombie Rat

When Rotting Rats enters the battlefield, each player discards a card.

Unearth {{1,B}} ({{1,B}}: Return this card from your graveyard to the battlefield. It gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step or if it would leave the battlefield. Unearth only as a sorcery.)

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Rotting Rats Discussion

MindAblaze on Discard in edh/multiplayer

19 hours ago

Ok Machiavelli...

On topic...discard in multiplayer can be done, but beware of a couple things. People get annoyed when their resources are whittled away, so prepare to get hit a lot. I have a multiplayer discard deck that uses Recurring Nightmare to bring back stuff like Liliana's Specter, Thoughtrender Lamia and Rotting Rats. I’ve learned that you have to have a plan for the stuff that sticks, and you have to plan for the deck that can out draw your discard plan. Otherwise, like other posters have said, 1:1 discard is pure card disadvantage, so stuff like Skull Rend are pretty threatening. I once had an opponent Force of Will my Skull Rend because of the potential damage it could cause.

Silverdrake on #ggg (golgari graveyard goodness)

1 month ago

Nemesis of Mortals doesn't play into your gameplan at all, I'd cut it if I were you. Vengevine probably deserves a spot here. Rotting Rats is nice discard that can work from the grave and puts a card in your yard. Gurmag Angler and Tasigur, the Golden Fang can put lands and non-creatures that you've dumped to some use by using them as a part of the cost. Gravecrawler can keep coming back, though the 9 zombies you have right now might not be enough to support that. Maelstrom Pulse is a powerful spell you could run 1-2 of. Liliana of the Veil would fit beautifully in here if you can afford her. That's all I can think of...

EDIT: Hah, I don't play this color combination often so I didn't realize the price on most of these cards... sorry for the not-so-budget suggestions. I still think Rotting Rats, Gurmag, and Gravecrawler deserve spots though if you can fit them.

Whatever you decide to do, good luck and have fun!

ParadoxRift on Budget 8-Rack

1 month ago

I played 8 rack for a couple of years and the deck is both quite budget friendly and a bunch of fun! I found that running 7-8 "racks" made the deck the most consistent (as the name 8-rack implies), so I would recommend putting in 3-4 Shrieking Affliction. Playing 24 lands with 4 Raven's Crime also adds a lot of consistency (it's actually a really good card), especially when running a couple of Dakmor Salvage for recursion.

In my experience, effects that trigger when an opponent discards a card are risky to run, because the aim of the deck is usually to get your opponent empty handed ASAP and they are difficult to trigger after that. If you want to play Liliana's Caress I would say play it with in a red/black deck focused around that sort of effect with cards like Burning Inquiry, Reforge the Soul and Waste Not (see this deck: https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/waste-not-storm-combo/).

Some sideboard options to consider: Throne of Geth against Chalice of the Void on 1 - this is something we see a bit of at the moment in legacy. Throne can sacrifice itself to add a counter to chalice and let you resolve your spells again. Asylum Visitor gives you card draw against decks that can't easily refill their hand and a creature to sideboard in to beat down through Leyline of Sanctity.

Finally, a few of the brewier pieces I used to run were Smallpox and Rotting Rats. Smallpox is something that doesn't hurt us as much as most decks and can mana screw people as well as kill a creature. It's good with Lingering Souls if you have enough ways to discard the souls, so you don't have to play white. Rotting Rats does a bit of a Liliana of the Veil impression by making multiple discard triggers go off, and the unearth can't be countered. APPLE01DOJ above mentioned Necrogen Mists which might actually be better than the rats.

Anyway good to see the deck still has some interest, have fun making opponents sad ;)

champloo08 on Mardu Zombies

1 month ago

Thanks Silverdrake, I have been thinking a lot about wich color would be the most usefull to add and I was thinking just about what you were talking about.

What I like about Lightning Bolt is, that it can also target the opponent, but most important it is cheaper than Fatal Push on paper. But you are probably right. The main reason for red is Faithless Looting, wich just works amazing with graveyard strategies. Rotting Rats looks also super functional and cheap. I was thinking about a blue splash instead, which could be similar to this: zombies copy

I really love Prized Amalgam, but I didn't want to play it without the ablilty to hardcast it.

I am also not sure what to think about Dread Wanderer. I am playing Zombies a lot in Standard and Dread Wanderer just feels a bit slow.

What do you think about the white cards, like Lingering Souls?

Silverdrake on Mardu Zombies

1 month ago

Not often you see a red zombie deck. Is it worth it? Faithless Looting is nice to fill the graveyard I suppose, but you can accomplish the same with Rotting Rats which also gives you discard for the opponent + a zombie to recur Gravecrawler with. If you cut those, all that's left is Lightning Bolt, which can easily be replaced with Fatal Push. Going in on the fill-the-yard-then-bring-em-back strategy, you could run Dread Wanderer, which combined with Gravecrawler gives you enough natural recursion to be able to run Prized Amalgam without the need for blue mana.

Whatever you decide to do, good luck and have fun!

lagotripha on Insult to Injury to Death

2 months ago

I'm not a fan of mindcrank without Bloodchief Ascension. It almost never pays off, and so many decks want cards in their graveyard you can get punished pretty hard. Jamming Rakdos Charm maindeck can offset some of that, but giving your opponent card advantage is a real risk. Burning inquiry carries similar problems, and without you running lots of cards that want to be in your graveyard, will likely help your opponent more than you.

I'm guessing this started as a delayed damage Emberwilde Augur Insult Rift Bolt list, possibly including Flame of Keld, which then morphed into a Waste Not variant. Its a fun idea- I've never made it work without it becoming a different deck.

First things first, if you want a damage/discard hybrid deck, you need to decide- how important is the discard? Is the this the rack, or is it a burn deck with blightnings?

If your meta has aggro decks that typically only have 1 card in hand turn four, a lot of discard is wasted. If its all control, then you'll want to be jamming as much as you possibly can just to keep from being locked out of the game. The big thing is that with fifteen cards sideboard, you can pack in 11 copies of duress variants and 4 shrieking afflictions. The sideboard is there to adapt you to your meta- whether that be by jamming silver bullet answers or completely changing your strategy in response. Just by swapping Lightning Bolt alikes for Duress you completely change the pace and playstyle of your deck.

Initial changes? -4 mindcrank, +4 Rakdos Charm. -3 necrogen spellbomb +3 Raven's Crime,-3 Elder Mastery, + Rotting Rats/Sedraxis Specter -3 burning inquiry, +3 Lightning Bolt. It should run smoother.

I have a big list of mono black cards I use for brews here Mono black deckbuilder's toolbox, in particular Sign in Blood and Night's Whisper- both net you more cards in a way that red struggles with, and in a pinch can finish off someone on five life with lighting bolt.

Jamming Call the Bloodline to turn spare lands into lifelinkers can help, and lets you run Asylum Visitor- which can help if you don't feel like Raven's Crime is all that.

Elixir of immortality is cute. Personally, I prefer Sun Droplet or the new Fountain of Renewal, and sometimes Golden Urn. Shuffling the graveyard back in is usually a disadvantage outside of 'draw your deck' combos.

Finally, remember to build something that is fun to play. Its all well and good knowing the 'best' option, but if it ain't fun, it ain't worth it. So always keep that in mind when choosing cards.

(edit- also just maindeck angrath. He locks a player out of the game like lilana and doesn't break the bank)

Vaan on Budget Infinite Rat Deck

2 months ago

I would definitely cut Gutter Skulk for a set of Rotting Rats. Including Chittering Rats and going all in on the hand disruption plan seens like a good idea.

Thornbite Staff seem really out of place and Diabolic Tutor has no payoff on this kind of deck, i would cut both sets and include some combination of Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni, Ogre Slumlord and some kind of removal spell like Doom Blade or Dismember.

I recommend that before doing any changes to the deck you really figure out what your gameplan is, right now the deck is divided between a discard suite and a Pack Rat/Tokens strategy, they're both effective and the rats that force the opponent to discard are good on both deck types but you need to focus on one of them.

Silverdrake on Blightning, specters, and snipes, oh my!

2 months ago

Hey, looks fun! +1 from me!

Depending on how much you're willing to spend there's a bunch of upgrades you can make. Claim//Fame is a budget card that works wonders with Vexing Devil, Black Cat, and your Rakdos cards. Inquisition of Kozilek and Thoughtseize are both incredibly powerful discard spells that let you choose what you're taking to help stop their gameplan. Wrench Mind can be effective at emptying your opponents hand for just 2 mana. Nyxathid is exactly the kind of card you'd like to see in this kind of deck. You might consider Rotting Rats instead of Black Cat. Geier Reach Sanitarium would be nice to run a few copies of as it helps you find the cards you want and, in a roundabout manner, makes your opponents discard to trigger caress and fell specter. Lastly, if you wanted to go absolutely insane with money, you could get 2-4 copies of Big Mama Discard herself, Liliana of the Veil.

If you're planning on bringing the deck to FNM you're definitely going to want a sideboard. You'll want to focus on A) the top decks right now and B) your hardest matchups. Human tribal is a HUGE deck right now, so you'll probably want some boardwipes in the side. Damnation is the best one you have access to in your colors, but to stick to a budget you could go for Anger of the Gods or Drown in Sorrow instead. I'd recommend 2-3 copies of whichever one you choose because of how popular the deck is. Tron and Storm are also wildly popular right now, so you should consider some Damping Spheres in the side to help against them. I'd recommend 2-3 copies. Graveyard hate is always prudent to have, especially when you plan on helping your opponent put things in their yard. Grafdigger's Cage and Nihil Spellbomb are probably the two best choices for you, though Leyline of the Void is also possible but I wouldn't recommend it. Whatever you choose, I'd recommend 1-2 copies. Artifact hate is also usually prudent to run, I'd say 1-2 copies of By Force would suit your sideboard well. Now, I imagine your hardest matchups are going to be fair midrange decks like Jund and Abzan that can play out enough threats before you make them discard them. Things like Tarmogoyf and Bloodbraid Elf will be your most likely downfall in these situations. In sideboard you should pack some extra removal for them - things like Fatal Push, Go for the Throat, and Cast Down will all help greatly against those decks.

Whatever you decide to go with, good luck!

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