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|Duel Decks: Nissa vs. Ob Nixilis (DDR)||Uncommon|
|2012 Core Set (M12)||Uncommon|
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Each player loses 1 life, discards a card, sacrifices a creature, then sacrifices a land.
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3 hours ago
Hi, welcome to modern, which is a faster format than you probably think.
You will get clobbered over the head by a 4/4 Hollow One by turn 2 on a regular basis. Having Lich's Caress as you removal spell of choice is then not very useful - the golem is just about done flattening you by the time you get to kill it. So... something much easier on the mana is needed. Fatal Push is the most popular, but for more budget-conscious deckbuilders, Victim of Night, Doom Blade, Hero's Downfall, and Go for the Throat are all possible alternatives (along with a bunch of other black removal spells - there are plenty to choose from).
You can also get removal with legs. Gatekeeper of Malakir is a decent enough card in a budget meta. Fleshbag Marauder is better if you are heavily into zombies (or other creatures), that can come back from the graveyard on their own.
Discard is more or less a necessity when playing black in modern. Thoughtseize is the better option, with Inquisition of Kozilek in the second place, and Duress as the very budget alternative. Don't bother discarding creatures out of your opponents hand with Despise - you're playing black, you'll have plenty of creature removal. You can get more powerful discard effects than these... but they also cost more mana. And the strength of 1-mana discard is that you trade your discard-card for the best card on your opponents opening hand, which you can't do the same extent with more mana-expensive cards. Also of note is Collective Brutality, both for the discard, but also because it can be used for set-up with your own graveyard. Technically speaking, Smallpox is also a discard spell - pretty strong, but takes a lot of set-up.
You can try to win on discard. Then you just have a look at an 8-rack deck somewhere, and try and make that. A card that sometimes shows up instead of expensive liliana, is Necrogen Mists. I guess you could use it in a budget monoblack control deck too - if you have a lot of recurring creatures. It could also be played with Howltooth Hollow (but that's not good if you want mana out of your Cabal Stronghold or if you can't get both players discarded to 0).
In terms of card draw, someone else already mentioned Phyrexian Arena and Dark Confidant (a.k.a. Bob). There are a bunch of bob look-a-likes too (all of which are much worse, though), and if you play in a budget meta, some of those might appeal to you. Personally, I like Asylum Visitor in my 8-rack deck, but I guess it would be good in any deck that tries to set the game into top-deck-mode.
Why all the different lilianas? Mostly, they aren't really good enough for modern, Liliana, the Last Hope being an exception (not good enough = too much mana for too little effect). Also, you've forgotten one of the better lillis: Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip.
1 week ago
Thanks for the suggestions Mannface! I'm glad you like my deck.
I have Torment of Hailfire in maybeboard. I believe it would perform well in the deck but I don't think that the deck needs more big finishers right now. I may swap it for another finisher (maybe Wave of Vitriol? as it isn't exactly cheap to cast and doesn't get rid of any blockers) at some point in the future though.
I haven't originally included Merciless Executioner and Fleshbag Marauder in the deck because they underperform in comparison to some of the other sacrifice effects (like Smallpox, which provides twice the sac-triggers for 1 less mana). However, I am lately realizing the added value of the creature to sac to its own effect, which makes it noticeably easier to cast when I don't have an estabilished board of tokens yet. I will try to find some space in the deck to test them out.
1 week ago
I know people want to play zombies as a midrange deck but it plays much better as a strict aggro deck. Relentless Dead is just too slow.
Lastly another tool worth using is Throne of the God-Pharaoh
1 week ago
3 weeks ago
18 lands might be too few if you want to play Smallpox. Actually it might be too few for most decks.
3 weeks ago
My opinion would be to pick what you want your commander to do and run with it. At the moment, you have a fair amount of "splashy' big things that are cool, but don't help the sacrifice theme, some zombie theme things, and expensive things to have sacrifice effects.
My recommendations would be to cut anything that is above 6 mana that isn't helping the sacrifice plan like Sandwurm Convergence and such.
After that, your commander says ANY PLAYER and ANY PERMANANT. Because of that, things like Carrion Feeder, Ashnod's Altar, even things like Evolving Wilds puts counters on your little dudes. So you could Ghost Quarter for a combat trick, sac one token to build an army, etc.
You should run all the 1 mana dorks so you can power out your commander/bigger threats faster without having to run slow ramp like Gift of Paradise and Worn Powerstone. Also, Sol Ring, Skullclamp, and at least Golgari Signet should be in the deck. Examples of dorks would be Elvish Mystic, Llanowar Elves, Boreal Druid, Arbor Elf, Elves of Deep Shadow.
In terms of "Payoff" cards, you could run Mycoloth and Tendershoot Dryad for token making, The Gitrog Monster makes card draw into creature power, Grim Haruspex draws lots of cards, Killing Wave is a kinda board wipe (or good life loss spell) that sacrifices instead of killing, Death Cloud or Smallpox can change a board state massively.
3 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
Thanks for the input Se7enfoot! I initially had Mutilate as a one of in the Sidboard as a one-of before Bile Blight got the spot. After a few games with mainboarding it against Elves in particular I found because of Smallpox/Raven's Crime/Necrogen Mists I hardly ever get to see 4 mana and at the same time have Mutilate/Languish in hand despite running 24 lands... My lands tend to be the first thing to be discarded in favor of trying to hang on to Victim of Night/Go for the Throat as long as I can to take out lords like Joraga Warcaller/Elvish Archdruid. or even make spite Pack Rat tokens for chump blockers if applicable.
I love Extirpate but i find it more suited for the sideboard and bringing it in against a less creature focused matchups like Control/Burn to take away there Mana Leaks/Lightning Bolt or key combo pieces... otherwise actual discard effects to optimize the damage/lifeloss of The Rack/Shrieking Affliction or spot removal just gives me more piece of mind when something nasty resolves like Grim Flayer.
Funeral Charm seems pretty awesome with it being at instant speed as well as being a possible Pack Rat pump; i just hate how it visually clashes with the rest of the deck... I might have to get over it and put it in here though cuz it does seem like its great for this deck; but im not certain what i would replace/cut for it.