Front:Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip
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- Does Liliana, Defiant Necromancer's emblem bring back enchantments effected by Starfield of Nyx?
- Athreos and the Flip Planeswalkers
- Flameshadow Conjuring And flip cards.
- Flip Planeswalkers in creature form in graveyard and taking control of them
- How to handle each player controlling a Liliana, Defiant Necromancer emblem?
Liliana, Defiant Necromancer
Planeswalker — Liliana
+2: Each player discards a card.
-X: Return target nonlegendary creature card with converted mana cost X from your graveyard to the battlefield.
-8: You get an emblem with "Whenever a creature dies, return it to the battlefield under your control at the beginning of the next end step."
Liliana, Defiant Necromancer Discussion
1 week ago
TzickyT, the deck has been working well for me so far. I'm usually able to pull out Liliana, Defiant Necromancer Flip's emblem quickly which keeps me in a very strong position for the rest of the game. I think I need to throw in some more card draw though, as with the constant discards, I find I am occasionly top decking.
1 month ago
Hey, I have a few suggestions/ comments.
Why do you use 24 lands in a deck that has such a low CMC? You're chancing some uneventful draws with so many lands. 19 should be about perfect, it gives you room for more spell play.
Necrogen Mists is also a double-edged sword, but since you aren't running Liliana of the Veil it's hard to find a substitution. Since your deck is reliant on you playing spells though. Liliana, Defiant Necromancer Flip might be a better option on a budget.
Some other interesting cards
1 month ago
I also totally didn't think about Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet - would be a great backup for Liliana, Defiant Necromancer Flip if I can't ult her. (Though I probably couldn't let him be on the board with Lili's emblem since it's a bit of a nonbo.)
Thanks again for the advice!
1 month ago
Gonna go out on a limb and say Liliana of the Veil is just going to be an expensive Doom Blade most of the time due to her not getting her ult off. And without even having Red Madness Vampires or a few grave-based cards (Excluding Driver of the Dead) to take advantage of her +1 Discard effect, it could be hard to even get her to 6 Loyalty without her being targeted. I'd also look at some 1 drops like Guul Draz Vampire, Pulse Tracker, and/or Shadow Alley Denizen so you can have some immediate pressure (Excluding Thoughtseize).
If you really want to include a Planeswalker though, Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip/Liliana, Defiant Necromancer Flip or Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath might be good includes. On flip, Liliana gives you a zombie token and her -X ability can return a desired creature back to the field first turn (Plus she can be flipped by any way your creature dies, so sac away). Ob Nixilis -3 can summon a 5/5 flying demon when he comes out, at only the cost of 2 life. These give different effects though, whereas Liliana of the Veil fits a very specific niche of sacriifcing getting around specific abilities and isn't always important. not to mention if they have multiple creatures they can just sac the least important one.
2 months ago
Yes, the "not-creatures" will return to the battlefield under your control. If they're double-faced cards, they'll be returned with the front face showing.
A "dies" trigger is a type of "leaves the battlefield" trigger, and LTB triggers use information from the last moment something was on the battlefield to determine if and how they trigger. As long as something is a creature at the moment it dies, it will trigger Liliana, Defiant Necromancer Flip's emblem. The trigger won't lose track of the object if it's no longer a creature when it hits the graveyard, and the ability isn't written in a way that requires the object to still be a creature when it's time to bring it back.
The default state for a double-faced card is with its front face showing. When a transformed DFC moves from the battlefield to anywhere else, it always switches back to its front face.
2 months ago
So my question is if i have the emblem of Liliana, Defiant Necromancer Flip in play and change a not-creature card into a creature, for example a Planeswalker like Gideon, Ally of Zendikar and it dies while its an creature, will it return under my control, becouse it was a creature when it left the field or not becouse it is no longer a creature when in the greveyard? Further IF i do get them do I get cards that are transformed in the version that left the field or as the standard-not-transformed card?
3 months ago
Cards like Delirium Skeins, Liliana, Defiant Necromancer Flip, Smallpox, and Ill-Gotten Gains would make for devistatingly effective sideboard pieces for when you need to switch from aggro to control to shutdown combo. Especially if your using those or similar cards with cards such as Waste Not, Necromancer's Stockpile, and Cryptbreaker.
4 months ago
Stuff that isn't too expensive and you should add: