Front:Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|From the Vault: Transform (V17)||Mythic Rare|
|Magic Origins (ORI)||Mythic Rare|
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- Does Liliana, Defiant Necromancer's emblem bring back enchantments effected by Starfield of Nyx?
- Athreos and the Flip Planeswalkers
- Flameshadow Conjuring And flip cards.
- Flip Planeswalkers in creature form in graveyard and taking control of them
- How to handle each player controlling a Liliana, Defiant Necromancer emblem?
Liliana, Defiant Necromancer
Planeswalker — Liliana
+2: Each player discards a card.
-X: Return target nonlegendary creature card with converted mana cost X from your graveyard to the battlefield.
-8: You get an emblem with "Whenever a creature dies, return it to the battlefield under your control at the beginning of the next end step."
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Liliana, Defiant Necromancer Discussion
Dipdac on Nathty Boy
3 months ago
Take a look at Raiders' Wake, Liliana, Defiant Necromancer, I would consider cutting Abrupt Decay for Krosan Grip since the mana costs in EDH can be so high, and I would probably get all of the Strip Mine like lands in there as I could since people will definitely be running Reliquary Tower. Reanimate and Animate Dead could be a lot of fun considering they hit creatures in any yard. Obvi want to get a Bojuka Bog.
5 months ago
You discard when the creatures enter the battlefield. Other ways to discard: Liliana, Defiant Necromancer, Liliana Vess, Faithless Looting, Tormenting Voice, Cathartic Reunion, Daretti, Scrap Savant, Sarkhan, Fireblood, Jaya Ballard, Sire Of Insanity, Mindslicer, Cunning Lethemancer, Anvil of Bogardan, Necrogen Mists, and Liliana of the Veil to name a few. Just search discard on gatherer.
6 months ago
griffstick thanks some of those should work rather well. I'm not sure your second idea works though... The dying creatures have to go to my graveyard to get brought back by Shirei. Which does make me a little sad but if I get Liliana, Defiant Necromancer's emblem then I just get to have everybody's stuff all the time. So the option does exist, Liliana was the commander of a previous version but my playgroup hits her hard every time she appears...
7 months ago
I'm trying to help my friend brew a deck using Gonti, Lord of Luxury.
Deck is meant to pick at opponents win conditions and either play them itself or put them off their game until our as yet to be decided win condition can be dropped.
B/W so far, so Lingering Souls is a solid call.
Looking to fill this out a bit with some other suggestions. Competitive options are best, as we would like to see this be a solid rogue deck at an fnm or local tournament.
If there is a better shell for Gonti than Rites, please don't hesitate to tell me I'm using the wrong shell.
Assuming a Rites shell, should there be a third color for better options, or just the two for more consistency?
Is Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip / Liliana, Defiant Necromancer Flip worth using here as addition recursion / value? I know she can't target Gonti, but working on the assumption that there will be other ETB creature targets.
9 months ago
Rat Colony is forcing me to mark a Commander deck as "prototype" due to having more than one copy in it, despite that being allowed. I suspect the same problem persists for any other deck that runs more than a single playset.
1 year ago
This has been my process up to this point.. First, I started off with all of the general goodstuff leftover from my first dumpster fire of a deck. I then took the discard theme of Liliana, Defiant Necromancer into account, and bought all of the relevant madness cards.. At this point I noticed this slowly turning into a quasi-Stax deck; I even bought a shiny copy of Smokestack just in case..
And so now, here I am.. I need to cut a dozen cards, and I need help figuring out how to narrow this down.. However, keep in mind that 1) I cant go full creatureless Stax because I need non-token creatures to flip Liliana to begin with. 2) I also dont want to build the terrible Winter Orb-style control that nobody likes.. and 3) Im not cutting Crown of Doom..
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1 year ago
Have you considered any of these? Nether Shadow, Narcomoeba, Golgari Thug, Phantasmagorian, Stinkweed Imp, Dread Return, Ashen Ghoul, Bloodghast, Hell's Caretaker, Liliana, Defiant Necromancer Flip, Sheoldred, Whispering One, Dakmor Salvage, Stitch Together
1 year ago
Personally, I'm not really a fan. The main impact will be in Standard. WotC was smart enough to wait for all the Gideons to be cycled out, which is good.
I liked the limitation before where you had to consider which version of planeswalkers you wanted during deck construction. With this change, you can now jam multiple of the same planeswalker type with zero repercussions. I'm not exactly excited to sit across the table from Liliana of the Veil, Liliana, the Last Hope, and Liliana, Defiant Necromancer Flip just to get shit on even more. Or worse, Garruk Wildspeaker ramping into other Garruks, like Garruk, Apex Predator and Garruk Relentless. Planeswalkers can already be hard to deal with. This new rule doesn't help.
I'm not really fond of planeswalkers in the first place past the initial ones in Lorwyn and some of the new intro deck planeswalkers. They have too much impact the boardstate for their mana cost, even the high CMC ones.
Hopefully, this change means will see a larger variety of planeswalkers. I'm really fucking sick of seeing Jace in every block. He's simultaneously the Guildpact, studying Innistrad's moon, helping the Gatewatch, and still planeswalking all over the goddamn place.
I think the Legendary supertype made sense if it was introduced back in Lorwyn. But we're over a decade past that. I dunno, maybe they'll reverse it later if it turns out to be garbage.
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