Raven's Crime

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Raven's Crime


Target player discards a card.

Retrace (You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding a land card in addition to paying its other costs.)

wallisface on Shadow Agony

1 month ago

Some thoughts:

  • 20 lands feels really low for a deck running Smallpox, that also needs 3 mana reliably, and ideally 4 mana for Tourach, Dread Cantor. Personally, i'd go up to 24 lands, and then run a playset of Raven's Crime so that you can still make use of any excess lands you might draw later in the game. (i'd drop the Hypnotic Specter for those extra lands, as the card just validates your opponents killspells too much)

  • I'd suggest running the full playset of Smallpox as it can just prove soo valuable for messing with your opponent, particularly if you're on the draw (which 8rack decks often want to be).

  • I'd ditch Megrim in place of some kind of killspell. between Shrieking Affliction, The Rack, and Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage you already have enough ways to punish an empty hand - and the opponent might not even have any cards in hand to discard after turn 3 anyway. You also want to be able to killspell the opponents board to force them into having to play more cards and get lower on resources. I think Fatal Push would be a lot more useful than Megrim here.

  • Duress can be really problematic in that it might not find a card to discard. I'd suggest running 3x Blackmail instead, and then 1 copy of Bontu's Last Reckoning. Blackmail is a lot stronger in that it will at least be guaranteed to force a discard, and the single copy of Bontu's Last Reckoning can come in clutch for getting out of gross situations (though I don't think you want to be running more than 1 copy because drawing 2 in a game is probably not helpful)

rekkim on Extract the Demon ($30 Dredge Primer)

3 months ago

Something with retrace? It works wonders in conjunction with Dakmor Salvage. Raven's Crime would be my first pick under normal circumstances, but despite a desperate dearth of interaction, I figure it might be better to run threats like Call the Skybreaker, Spitting Image or Worm Harvest because the rest of your non-permanent slots're dedicated to opening the combos.

zapyourtumor on How Not To MTG

4 months ago

Necrogen Spellbomb is cute but a really weak card even with saga. I recommend 1 Pithing Needle and 1 Nihil Spellbomb in the main, both are really useful and the spellbomb can be cycled if graveyard hate isn't needed. To be honest, I know you want a lot of artifacts to tap for Herald, but Necrogen Spellbomb and Chromatic Star are probably getting sacrificed anyways so I don't think they are worth including. Grief is also kind of a bad card if you aren't building around it with flicker effects or like in BR scam decks so I'd cut both copies. And since Herald is a fat 7 cmc creature I'd definitely go down to 3, and maybe 2 copies. Most 8rack players have tested Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage since it was released and agreed that it isn't that good. 1 copy is sometimes played though.

I would probably replace them with removal like Bloodchief's Thirst, Fatal Push, and maybe 1x Dismember, and you also probably need the 8rack classic Raven's Crime which is absolutely amazing when getting mana flooded.

There is also the nonbo of Ensnaring Bridge preventing your Herald and constructs from attacking, which is why most rack players running saga cut down on mainboard bridge copies, but on the other hand ensnaring bridge is an artifact that taps for herald.

Also neither Animate Dead nor Dance of the Dead are legal in modern. A way to reanimate herald with Persist after discarding it with lili sounds interesting but probably not feasible unless you find a few other ways to discard herald. And at that point you'd be trying to fit too many things into one deck.

paperhead on The Frozen Plague

6 months ago

Some suggestions from similar control decks I play :
Desecration Demon forces them to sac creatures until they can't.
Blood on the Snow is more expensive than your board wipe, but gets you a creature back.
Regular sized Pox combos with its little brother.
Raven's Crime is a solid discard option.
Phyrexian Obliterator is frankly game breaking. They can't block it if you are playing control.

Dead_Blue_ on Will this 7-rack be competitive?

8 months ago

Lilli really is a must in the deck, I’ve played a lot of 8Rack but not in the current meta as I’m just returning to magic but I’ve found the red version just not worth it. You’re still susceptible to enchantment hate& if you’re going to run red the Rix Maadi, Dungeon Palace is pretty much the best reason to. Just echoing what has already been said, Funeral Charm is great, discard at instant speed that doubles at removal Is extremely powerful. I find there’s not really room in the deck for flavor cards but if you do want flavor Waste Not Bitterblossom or Nyxathid are excellent choices. Also you may want to trim Raven's Crime. It’s one of the best cards in the deck but multiples of it are useless and you absolutely have to run Dakmor Salvage with it as it completes the engine.

DreadKhan on Gift of Doom

8 months ago

If you're not running 4 of your combo pieces, you could run Wish and a copy of each (and some random stuff) in a Sideboard to have more access. There is also Burning Wish, but that can't find Pact for you, the card you need out first and thus might want more access to. With the high land count, maybe Raven's Crime? Maybe Geier Reach Sanitarium as a way to kickstart Anje again?

ElPared on Best Fae of Wishes Targets?

9 months ago

The insteresting part of Fae of Wishes to me is actually the "discard two cards" part.

With that in mind, if you wanted to go REALLY crazy, I'd use it with Spellweaver Helix. The Fae lets you discard sorceries early, so you have easy targets for the helix. Then you sideboard singletons of all of your sorceries (so you never run more than 3 maindeck), and use her to wish for copies of the imprinted cards so you can trigger the helix easily.

For example: You start with Fae of Wishes, Spellweaver Helix, Cruel Ultimatum, and Raven's Crime. You play the Fae early, then bounce her by discarding the ultimatum and raven's crime, then you play Spellweaver Helix to imprint those two cards. Then you send her on an adventure and wish for Raven's Crime from your sideboard, which you use to also cast Cruel Ultimatum for free.

Throw in Strionic Resonator for even more shenanigans (you can copy both the imprint trigger, and the casting trigger on a Helix with it).

Nordlys on I'll have the Full Rack with a Side of Rats Please

11 months ago

Hi there! How is it going? I know this deck was uploaded many years ago, but since it says it was updated two weeks ago from now, I'll drop a comment.

Even though it is a budget deck, you can still put one or two Liliana, Waker of the Dead since it is an economic card that does what you need.

Notes: - 21 lands seems too few for a deck that discards lands to Raven's Crime and also sacrifices lands to Smallpox - 3 copies of Murderous Cut seems too much since you won't be able to quickly drop 15 cards to your graveyard for it's delve. I really like the card, but the safest choice would be to play a singleton (only 1 copy) since you don't to see more than 1 in your hand. So maybe replace 2 copies of it for Fatal Push or Bloodchief's Thirst - Taking out all 8 racks for the whole rat pack would turn your discard cards kinda useless since you won't be getting any advantage out of your empty handed opponent (except for that single Nezumi Shortfang  Flip ). So maybe what you should for the second match is to take out the Smallpox and the Wrench Mind and also the Raven's Crime since you will prefer to discard those extra lands to Pack Rat instead of discarding them to Raven's.

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