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Liliana of the Veil
Planeswalker — Liliana
+1: Each player discards a card.
-2: Target player sacrifices a creature.
-6: Separate all permanents target player controls into two piles. That player sacrifices all permanents in the pile of his or her choice.
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Liliana of the Veil Discussion
7 hours ago
Thank you for the upvote. I have considered the Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. It was realllly sweet until I gave an opponent double , for Liliana of the Veil. I still like the card a lot. Unfortunately, Oboro, Palace in the Clouds would be a little hard to include being solely in a tri-color shell. I like the interaction it has with Revolt.
10 hours ago
BlazingAbsol you have sound arguments. I’m running Geist of Saint Traft over Kitchen Finks because he is hard to answer and a solid threat. I actually chose Dovin Baan as my planeswalker of choice for a few reasons, apart from him being one of my favorites. But mostly, because his +1 ability can lock out cards like Scavenging Ooze andArcbound Ravager just to name a couple, both of which are meta at my LGS. In addition, the only decks I’ve come across so far that can get past his emblem is titan shift. As for Clockspinning it’s primarily a combo piece for The Mirari Conjecture that lets me repeat the 3rd chapter ability, but also has the potential to kill Liliana of the Veil Jace, the Mind Sculptor or any other planeswalker if it’s loyalty falls low enough. Also takes counters off of things like Chalice of the Void, Scavenging Ooze, Tireless Tracker, etc. as for Rest in Peace I would rather run Leyline of the Void or Nihil Spellbomb as they only affect my opponents yards, I just haven’t gotten around to acquiring those yet.
11 hours ago
What do you think about Kitchen Finks as another target for clockspinning and a hedge against aggro and midrange? You could cut the geists (which don't really seem to help with the main game plan all that much) and maybe Blessed Alliance (which is only good against aggro.
Snapcaster seems strong in such a spell-heavy deck (although he is pretty expensive in real money).
Esper Charm can be a pretty crazy card, although you're playing a lot of cards at sorcery speed so it might not be at its best here.
Actually, clockspinning sounds iffy in general, since you only have 7 targets and it's useless on its own (and Dovin isn't even that great of a target). It does sound fun to trigger chapter III of conjecture before you're opponent is prepared.
I'm curious why you picked Dovin as the planeswalker of your choice. I'm not saying it's bad, just that he's normally not a great card. My first instinct of replacement is Teferi, but it's a bit awkward that he costs the same as Conjecture. Other possibilities: Gideon, Ally of Zendikar, Gideon of the Trials, Liliana of the Veil, Jace, the Mind Sculptor.
Overall, I think the deck is a really cool idea. The Mirari Conjecture is one of my favorite sagas and I'm happy to finally see it in action!
1 day ago
Chasmolinker i debated for the last year on getting Liliana of the Veil and Ensnaring Bridge. after play testing with both for the last couple months it was just time to stop messing around and get them. spot removal was not doing enough for me but still have the 4 of Fatal Push which is fine and holding discard spells late game with nothing to take from my opponent was so frustrating. i see now why so many people were saying from the jump to just slowly invest and get both these cards. the lock is real. thank you, it's good to hear from you.
2 days ago
Lol. Just think... If they resolve a JtMS or LotV you have an answer to it. Anguished Unmaking is another tool to mess around with. I say cut Path to Exile because the incidental mana ramp can be a deterrent from wanting to cast it.
3 days ago
I also think for your sideboard you should be running ~3 copies of Maelstrom Pulse. This will help you deal with Liliana of the Veils as well as token strategies (yay, Lingering Souls). You probably want a couple of Dismembers as well since Bloodbraid Elf is a thing. It also takes some stress of needing discard then and there.
Death Denied could be an interesting one since all your dudes are small. Not a mainboard card but against a lot of removal it lets you run out all your threats. Especially since you only have 16 creatures total you're packing and 4 of those are lands.
You may also want some Field of Ruins in your sideboard to deal with tron. That or Fulminator Mages (assuming you have tron in your meta). I'm not sure if Relic of Progenitus is still the graveyard hate goto but a couple of these could be good too. Shuts down Goyf, New Lili, Delirium, snapcasters, etc.
4 days ago
ersatz_olorin it's the only 1 mana permanent in the deck, but I actually considered trimming them down from 4. The thing is that the value of what it provides is too great, it can help you ramp for spells faster, helps your creatures dodge counterspells, allows you to play creatures at instant speed... the deck isn't super fast, so having plays to set up plays 2 or 3 turns later on turn 1 can be a real difference maker and can help you maintain momentum. A lot of times you need mana open on turn 3 for cards like Liliana of the Veil or Scion of Oona, so having the vial at 2 counters gives you the ability to play a Spellstutter Sprite and counter a 3 drop if you played Bitterblossom on turn 2. It obviously sucks when you need something late game and you topdeck one, but the amount of times it helps vastly outnumber those situations.
4 days ago
I wasn't saying not to run blue I love the blue in the deck. I just wondered why not black. I played a Pernicious Jace deck for a long time and loved it. Though the recursion thing is a nice benefit I'll definitely give you that. I just never felt it was so necessary since I never needed to use that effect more than three times and I played four deeds. I also liked having Liliana of the Veil to go with my Jace. It was a much different deck though to be fair even though both were land based decks. I am also a big time brewer so I get you there. I've been playing since '94 and never stop brewing. Though now that I think about it I haven't played Temur or Bant in a very long time. Maybe I should give it a try.