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Liliana of the Veil
Planeswalker — Liliana
+1: Each player discards a card.
-2: Target player sacrifices a creature.
-6: Separate all permanents target player controls into two piles. That player sacrifices all permanents in the pile of their choice.
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Liliana of the Veil Discussion
5 days ago
ipsmo hey thanks! Originally yes, however in early design and testing stages I would get wrecked by cards like Liliana of the Veil , so I opted to use Tamiyo, Collector of Tales over Coco because, while slower, it digs multiple times for specific pieces and protects me from discard and sacrifice abilities.
1 week ago
I don’t think Master of Cruelties (or your other red cards) are worth running, and is probably better served as being a third bridge. It feels like you should just keep this deck as BW, the red splashes you’re including all seem to be sub-optimal cards, i don’t see them helping you much.
Vicious Rumors is probably another card worth ditching - you have tons of hand disruption already and so its not particularly helpful.
Consider saving up for some Liliana of the Veil - they’re pretty useful in any control build like this
1 week ago
Modern huh? Unless you wanna do a sacrifice engine you're better going Rakdos or Mardu.
Vamps also wanna run pretty light on mana in either case. 3 or less cost = good, use 4+ mana cards very sparingly. Like Sanguine/Exquisite are simply too slow to be good imo.
Now, depending on your budget, you could do something like.....
4 Viscera Seer , 4 Bloodghast , 4 Blood Artist or Kalastria Highborn , 4 Cordial Vampire , maybe 4 Vampire Nocturnus or Vampire Lacerator and 2 Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet or Captivating Vampire , or maybe even 4 Dusk Legion Zealot or Gatekeeper of Malakir .
For hate spells, usable ones are things like Fatal Push , Lightning Bolt , Path to Exile , Terminate , Cast Down , Kolaghan's Command , or if you have money, Liliana of the Veil , Liliana, the Last Hope , and also to bring him up on this subject: Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord . Hand disruption is expensive, looking at Thoughtseize , Inquisition of Kozilek , and Collective Brutality . But black has almost a monopoly on that.
Hope this gave you some insight. Welcome to the dark side.
1 week ago
well, butcher ghoul is not that good unless you put a sac engine into this deck like Carrion Feeder , in general cmc is too high. i think cemetery reaper is a bad zombie lord because he doesn't do much, it makes u spend mana and tap him. death baron is ok. diregraf colossus ok too (death baron and diregraf colossus are only lords i would play). diregraf ghoul can be replaced with Gravecrawler (can't miss him in a zombie deck) or Dread Wanderer (a bit slow but still fine). u should play at least 8x 1mana zombies. graveyard marshal is not so bad but of course he can be replaced too, maybe with Relentless Dead .
liliana's triumph is ok. murder should be replaced with Fatal Push or at least Defile . vile rebirth can be nice only for sideboard because you can't cast it if you don't exile a creature from enemy graveyard (you dont want to exile yours!).
Call to the grave is just too slow for modern. Endless rank of the deads could be playable but not more than 2x of it.
Liliana death majesty again has a very high cmc, so i would not consider buying her. Of course there are better lilianas: Liliana of the Veil (too expensive), Liliana, the Last Hope (again very expensive), Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip affordable and still nice, Liliana, Untouched By Death is still better than death majesty but honestly i won't play her.
You should play a good mix of creature destroying cards and some discard for at least trying being a bit more competitive.
1 week ago
Phyrexian Obliterator is a good card when it comes to blocking, especially in a mono-black deck.
I’m surprised you’re not running Animate Dead , Necromancy or Reanimate . These cards, especially if paired with Entomb / Buried Alive and Dark Ritual can put down a fatty of your choice real fast. Massacre Wurm is a good reanimation target in addition to your Grave Titan .
Ramp is a premium in EDH. Mox Diamond and Mana Crypt set the gold standard after Sol Ring , with Mana Vault and Chrome Mox following them. Unfortunately, these cards will cost you about the same as a black-market kidney. Charcoal Diamond , Coldsteel Heart , Mind Stone , Prismatic Lens and Lotus Petal are affordable options to consider. Also, with a lot of 2-drop-rocks, Ancient Tomb becomes a powerful t1 play —- it’s about $20 now, after the reprint in UMA.
Toxic Deluge is a good board-wipe to consider.
2 weeks ago
kamarupa Fair enough. It would be budget-ish for me because I already have most of those cards, but doesn’t require the purchase of a full playset of Liliana of the Veil , Mutavault , Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , or Leyline of the Void . But I’ll edit the description.
2 weeks ago
Hmmm as for what to cut I'm in a similar place. He's a definite four-of if I'm not using Liliana, still a 3 if I am. The "version 2" of my deck is way closer to your more control-oriented shell. I'm ironing out the wrinkles still, there are too many vamps now worthy of a slot. I remember when I ran 14 mainboard turn 1 creatures, seriously. Cordial Vampire is a really good card imo too because he paints a target on his head for removal and punishes opponents for getting trigger happy with their bolts. Also besides IoK and Thoughtseize, Rakdos has REALLY gotten a lot of POWERFUL control options recently, many synergize with Ghast. We had Terminate and Lightning Bolt already, then we got Liliana of the Veil in the same set as Olivia and crew, then Liliana, the Last Hope , Kolaghan's Command , Fatal Push and Collective Brutality . Oh and now Unearth is legal. Liliana's Triumph and Cast Down on the power creep train.
I was kinda ehh over Zealot at first, but I mean draw power is at a premium, and he's a vamp who affects the game upon coming into play, a removal on him is pointless. I'm seriously on the fence over Legion Lieutenant being worth an entire white splash.
Oh and My Chikage/Evelyn l100 build recently got a full set of 32.6% blood damage gems via new breakthroughs in chalice dungeon farming. The Holy Grail of blood gems according to the community. I use the BoM w/ brainsucker nourishing flat arcanes as a secondary for r1 spammers and speed control. This build is terrifying. A vampire who can 2-shot 120s with a parry tool. I've also been really fond of the Charred hunter set because it has decent stats and I look like Victorian Batman.
3 weeks ago
Aurex Sorin 1 is a strict control card, flavorful or not, and is honestly too much mana for a format where you wanna have your wincon set up by turn 4-6 at latest. Liliana of the Veil is a serious contender for the best planeswalker in the game. Liliana, the Last Hope is top 5 as well. Sorin's good but imo not viable in modern for a not UBx control deck.
Liliana of the Veil occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.31%
All decks: 0.45%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%