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At the beginning of your upkeep, you may put a soot counter on Smokestack.
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player sacrifices a permanent for each soot counter on Smokestack.
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23 hours ago
Mentor of the Meek is really good.
Viscera Seer is good for deck cycling.
Elenda, the Dusk Rose MIGHT be a better commander. Whilst she costs more mana, she comes online a bit quicker, potentially.
Karmic Guide, Reveillark and Blasting Station is an instant win. Both creatures are good enough to include on their own because value, but they can also just single-handedly win games. They create sacrifice-recursion loops where you can sacrifice them then one reanimates the other and then you rinse and repeat.
Sun Titan isn't optional. It just wins games.
Buried Alive is a really good tutor-thats-not-a-tutor kind of thing.
Victimize is just value.
Nim Deathmantle protects everything from death.
You can play Smokestack in decks like this if you want to be a dick.
Attrition is just borderline unfair.
That's about all I can think of.
1 week ago
Full disclosure, I don't have a Vorosh deck, but I've been theory crafting and looking into it. Hakim is one of my main decks. Please factor this accordingly.
In the case of Vorosh, I think people underestimate that color combination substantially. It has access to cards like Vanishing or Diplomatic Immunity allowing it to dodge and preserve counters, as well as counterspells and tutors. Black and blue have a ton of ways to make creatures unblockable, as well as ways to deal with threats. I would by no means call a Vorosh deck fast. But with ramp and a good set of answers I wouldn't call it tier 5 either. After it lands an attack once, it can drop any player within 2 turns via unblockable commander. And again, it's color combo lends itself well to biding its time and riding out threats. Not to mention a late Beacon of Tomorrows or Time Stretch is a guaranteed kill if cast at the right time.
Hakim is definitely one I personally use so pls no bully. But the ability to recur enchantments without having to expose yourself by attacking means you can make a resilient one man control platform. All the pieces it needs to come online and become a threat are recurrable. Enchants due to his ability, and equipment due to being able to be fetched from the graveyard by blue. Charisma, Psionic Gift, Neko-Te, Vanishing, Grafted Exoskeleton, Pemmin's Aura, Quietus Spike, Drake Umbra and other totems, Freed from the Real, Eldrazi Conscription, Illusionist's Bracers, Hermetic Study, Diplomatic Immunity, Sword of Kaldra, Corrupted Conscience, Blight Sickle, Sigil of Sleep, Oracle's Insight. The overlapping cards fulfilling the same role combined with the fact you can comfortably dump to graveyard(by overdrawing or other effects) means you can quickly dig for what you need. It's somewhat mana greedy but once it spools up its very hard to deal with. You've gotta get past counterspells, phasing out to dodge, recurring umbras, and hexproof. Usually multiple of those are online by like turn 7 or 8. And once it is online you can start trading mana 1 for 1 to get devastating effects. 1 blue mana can get you: destroy or exile target creature, put a poison counter on target player, "permanently" tap target creature, gain control of target creature, half target player's life, draw a card, etc. And if bumped up with helm of the gods or enchant stacking buffs all of this can be done while going full aggro on someone to proc annihilator or punch their face for damage. Finally, he can use recurring mass sacrifice effects to wear down enemies. Smokestack presents a somewhat mana inefficient option lategame to limit enemy's board state. For example, if you have a pemmin's aura, psionic gift, Diplomatic immunity combo online, you can run a smokestack at 3 charges indefinitely. Sacrifice the 3 Enchants during your upkeep, then pay 6 blue to rebuild them leaving the rest open for counterspells. Enemies are losing 3 permanents a turn while you keep enough mana open to counterspell or ping as needed. If brought online lategame after a board wipe your enemies will be completely unable to rebuild while you can continue building up your combo pieces.
In the case of both of these decks, they lend themselves to a decently strong voltron option. But they also both have access to some of the best ways to keep a creature alive through board wipes and preserve their bonuses they've been accruing.
With Vorosh, in theory a bit of biding your time combined with an Unblockable enchant(of which blue has tons) can build up to a time walk effect wherein you kill a player before they can even react. With Hakim, he turns into a controltron that is highly resistant to most answers against voltron decks, while also being able to rebuild extremely fast unless someone can punch through those multiple lines of defense AND wipe the graveyard out quickly.
Keep in mind, I HAVE NOT USED VOROSH, but I do play decks that operate in a similar manner. In theory Vorosh has a great deal of potential as a lategame sweeper with low time to kill aided by time walk effects.
I DO HAVE A HAKIM DECK AND AM THEREFORE BIASED. But hakim is(after some costly spool up) an absurdly efficient controltron commander. He can singlehandedly kill multiple players in a single turn via poison counters and Illusionist's bracers. Or permanently detain an entire board. And the fact all of these are instant speed means he can save his effects til end of turn on his enemy's turn leaving mana open to counterspell threats he can't deal with.
1 week ago
Song of Freyalise fast mana Mentor of the Meek card draw option Selfless Spirit protection Teferi's Protection expensive protection Eladamri's Call tutor Enlightened Tutor artifact/enchantment tutor Worldly Tutor expensive creature tutor Chord of Calling creature tutor Mox Amber free mana ramp Throne of the God-Pharaoh win condition easily tutor with enlighten tutor Oran-Rief, the Vastwood make creatures stronger Luminarch Ascension could be fun not hard to get on line white angels fast Helm of the Host Creature tokens of your creatures . elesh wurmcoil anointer priest idk Ashnod's Altar sac outlet Lifecrafter's Bestiary one of my favs scry is strong draw when you play a creature still good Smokestack Very powerful control card Cultivate Kodama's Reach both strong ramp
Cards to remove imo: Primal Vigor you have a lot of the same card and this one is symmetrical effect so not as strong . Hornet Queen seems slow and a lot of green mana Legion's Landing very slow and the pay off isn't that great
1 month ago
I don't think Cataclysm is a good card for you, it looks like you like to hoard permanents in the field, and Cataclysm is no good for that. Another thing, you have few pieces to combo well with Stasis you do have Root Maze but Kismet (or Frozen AEther) or Orb of Dreams can help you finnish the combo.
Eventhough Mana Vault is a great card I dont feel like is necesary, but it's an artifact based stax so I get it. I wouldnt play Ichor Rats it's way too slow even for a stax deck.If you wanna check my deck here it is: Max Stax Atraxa
Also, I like to play Armageddon and Heroic Intervention, It has won me a lot of games. And since you're running Armageddon and Ravages of War you double the chances to get the combo. Also Heroic Intervention is a great counter for all the boardwipes or targeted disruption in commander.
See ya man! =)
1 month ago
@paulriso: I don't know when the list will be updated, but the following is a minimally edited repost of an earlier comment I made. It has been mostly agreed with (or rather there has been little disagreement) and the edits incorporate a lot of the feedback I have read. Note that these are impressions and where they may likely start, but are not guaranteed to be their true standings.
Lyra Dawnbringer - T5. Just an efficient creature. Angel tribal does nothing.
Naru Meha, Master Wizard - T2. Good in a High Tide shell like JVP, but also with a simple combo with Ghostly Flicker.
Demonlord Belzenlok - T4. Efficient beater that draws 1-2 cards in a good color.
Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar - T4. Seems like a decent STAX commander.
Naban, Dean of Iteration - T4. Seems like a decent enough value commander in a good color.
Evra, Halcyon Witness - T4. Requires removal. Good with Aetherflux.
Josu Vess, Lich Knight - T5.
Verix Bladewing - T5.
Marwyn, the Nurturer - T2.5-3. Taps for big mana. Probably a decent Elfball commander. Comparing her to Ezuri and Selvala, so there is potential to be better than T3 where Ezuri is.
Shalai, Voice of Plenty - T3. Protects creature combos and is an infinite mana outlet.
Zahid, Djinn of the Lamp - T5.
Kazarov, Sengir Pureblood - T5. Can disrupt creature shenanigans, but is too slow.
Squee, the Immortal - T4. No Food Chain, so settle for Skullclamp and Smokestack.
Grunn, the Lonely King - T5.
Teshar, Ancestor’s Apostle - T3-4. Bomberman Combo + Scarecrone/Brass Secretary/Selfless Cathar/Ticking Gnomes.
Slinn Voda, the Rising Deep - T5.
Valduk, Keeper of the Flame - T4. Cute with Skullclamp and/or Possessed Portal.
Baird, Steward of Argive - T5.
Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive - T4-5. There is probably something cool I am missing.
Torgaar, Famine Incarnate - T4. I want to say T5, but the effect might qualify it for T4. It also acts as a one-time sac outlet in the command zone.
Danitha Capashen, Paragon - T5.
Urgoros, the Empty One - T4-5. I want to say T5, but the "at random" may qualify it for T4.
Kwende, Pride of Femeref - T5.
Whisper, Blood Liturgist - T3-4. Relatively cheap reanimation makes for a decent commander.
Yargle, Glutton of Urborg - T1. By far the best Legend to come out of Dominaria and will easily be brewed for ages to come.
Darigaaz Reincarnated - T3-4. Decent beater in good colors. Also an okay Food Chain commander since it "stores" 8 mana.
Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain - T1.5-2. Tentative starting point for the powerful artifact storm commander. Comparing most closely to Nin, the Pain Artist.
Muldrotha, the Gravetide - T1.5-2. Three best colors combined with an efficient value engine. Works very well with Command Beacon. There are also combos with LED, Phantasmal Image, and Animate Dead. Comparing mostly to Damia and Rashmi.
Aryel, Knight of Windgrace - T4. Makes tokens and is (slow) removal.
Jodah, Archmage Eternal - T3. Can cheat in a lot of cool stuff.
Firesong and Sunspeaker - T4. Cool with damage based board wipes and Aetherflux.
Grand Warlord Radha - T3. Free mana is free.
Adeliz, the Cinder Wind - T4-5. Is wizard storm possible?
Arvad the Cursed - T5.
Garna, the Bloodflame - T3. A better No Rest for the Wicked with a haste anthem is playable. It turns Entomb into an Eladamri's Call. Good in a shell with Paradox Engine and a sac outlet.
Hallar, the Firefletcher - T5.
Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage - T4. Can have Shimmer Zur lines with Aetherflux.
Rona, Disciple of Gix - T3-4. Goes infinite with LED and Deadeye.
Shanna, Sisay’s Legacy - T5.
Slimefoot, the Stowaway - T2.5-3. Comparable to Ishkanah, Grafwidow. Likely to rise since it only needs infinite colorless rather than infinite black.
Tatyova, Benthic Druid - T2.5-3. Good colors and abilities.
Tiana, Ship's Caretaker - T4. Helps recover from Bane of Progress. Best combo I could think of: Possessed Portal + Sigarda's Aid + 0-drop equipment.
Traxos, Scourge of Kroog - T5.
Niambi, Faithful Healer - T5.
1 month ago
lol I read your post on Advertise your commander too fast it seems, all I read was Primal Surge
Buried Alive also seems like a must.
Sorry for the mix up :)