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|Modern Masters 2015 Edition (MM2)||Mythic Rare|
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Creature — Human Wizard
At the beginning of your upkeep, reveal the top card of your library and put that card into your hand. You lose life equal to its converted mana cost.
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Dark Confidant Discussion
2 days ago
hmm random brewing though that popped into my head, Metallic Mimic and Lesser Masticore can make for part of a hulk grab that is only 4 cmc (or 5 with a seer) that the masticore can also combo dmg like a... where's Walking Ballista ? the unicorn allows a hulk combo with ballista, actually you might just want the mimic over the unicorn, in all the plan b combos you have it's unlikely you'd just blind drop the unicorn before you already had the other combo piece ready since a table of cedh will likely hate it out fast, so you can do mimic naming the creature type you want the extra counter on.
oh yeah back to the mimic with masticore combo benefits, masticore can be a discard effect when you'd want one (good for a reanimator version) when you combo with an altar it's an infinite dmg source on it's own, mimic and masticore would also be completely colorless, being a lot more friendly than messenger to say the least to cast it also works with more of your tutors... I caught myself rambling but to say the least it works better than messenger, and I have to admit, Earthcraft with only 3 basics in deck might make it weaker than it should be, sure you have many fetch, but it also nobo's with your Root Maze . Dark Confidant in most cases might be weaker than say a Elvish Visionary , Tymna the Weaver , or even just a Sign in Blood type spell ( I can't remember the 1B version name from mirrodin block), it's slow and inefficient for cedh.
my final suggestion would be Concordant Crossroads , in cedh it likely will just be a sorcery that gives your creatures haste on the turn you make infinite tokens, but it is also a world enchantment which will world rule destroy another world enchantment like The Abyss or Nether Void . it's also likely there can be tables where just playing crossroads will benefit just you.
Though for overall power level issue I'd say card advantage is what this deck most could use, maybe a cycle land Life from the Loam package, necro and library do help, but having some of a draw engine that doesn't shut off when a smart group attacks into you (cedh tables send all their creatures at the black/green players to shut off their draw engines). I could ramble forever and must stop myself now, sorry if it cuts out on a weird place.
3 days ago
As for removal I consider Wear - it might be viewed as 3CMC but it's flexibility and ability to be 3 CMC 2-for-1 redeem it for me. Might work instead of Path to Exile or Harsh Mercy since you have enough creature removal. The latter might also work really bad in more tribal oriented metas or because of the fact that so many good creatures are Elves of Humans.
3 days ago
You are right, i made some changes Twilight Prophet isn‘t good anymore because of the low cmc cost.
Changeling seems good as well.
Metallic Mimic works in my deck very good, this card is game aproved. All your vampires and tokens are 2/2 after turn 2.
Vanquisher's Banner is a cut card, i wasn‘t sure, Bit you are right
Land changes done ;)
4 days ago
Hi, today I thought about some changes that would make your deck faster.
- Stensia Masquerade --> Changeling Outcast - this enchantment hurts more than it helps in my opinion. You're better off with "Vampire" that is unblockable so creates an early threat.
- Twilight Prophet --> Minions' Murmurs - not a vampire this time but you get more immediate draw as opposed to slow effect that requires at least turn cycle to start working.
- Metallic Mimic --> Bloodthrone Vampire - Mimic is not a vampire and it's help is minescule, I'd rather put nice vampire that can work as a sac outlet for all those Blood Artist effects.
- Vampire Nighthawk --> Olivia's Bloodsworn - best vampires for Edgar are low costed so you get the same evasion and potential to give some key creatures haste. Also it hurts less from Ad Nauseam .
- Vanquisher's Banner --> Wheel of Fortune or Dark Confidant or Night's Whisper (depending on budget you have) - I personally don't like banner for it's high cost and if you really want better card draw there are way better and cheaper (at least CMC-wise) cards.
- Sunbaked Canyon --> Caves of Koilos - just minor change, I personally think that your deck just like mine needs lands that provide first and then fixing since turn 3 Necropotence sets you up for an amazing game.
5 days ago
If you intentionally don't use Primal Surge to the maximum capabilities, you are not min-maxing your deck. Without diving into more technical applications of card advantage, resource cost, opportunity cost, and speed that factor into format defining competitive decks, we can refute your min-max shenanigans with that one little argument alone. You are also spending the maximum amount of mana to get the effect, instead of cheating to cast Primal Surge somehow, which doesn't mean you're getting the minimum either. You're getting a maximum-mediocre, which is a lot different than a minimum-maximum. You haven't even minimized the number of non-permanent spells, because that would be 0 and that's definitely something you could do. facepalm again
Having the opinion that one card wincons are boring doesn't make much difference to how effective they are. Also Coalition Victory is banned because of the ease of Prismatic Omen with a 5 color commander, not because its a one card wincon (which its not, it requires at least 1 creature and 1 land that makes 3 cards, not even counting the cards required to cast the spell in the first place), the other reason being it wins on resolve instead of requiring an upkeep (creates no drama on the board, kaput game is over). A better example of a one-card wincon would be Felidar Sovereign , which is legal, but you do have to get it into play somehow, which would require some amount of cards to get the mana. Even if you do find 1 card win cons boring, you're openly stating you wouldn't run an optimal card to win. Once again, definitely not min-maxing.
Sandwurm Convergence is a bad card dude. It costs 8 mana to give you a creature every turn and negate some attacks. When the format has all kinds of legal 1 and 2 mana cost tutors, and even more 2, 3, and 4 mana cost ways to win, 8 mana for a pillowfort card that doesn't guarantee immunity is not good. Its not even good in a format like standard or modern either, due to the high mana cost. Compare to Bitterblossom .
- Turn 2, you play BB
- Turn 3, you get first token (and 1 every turn after)
- Turn 4, you swing with 1 attacker for 1 damage dealt
- Turn 4, you swing with 2 attackers for 3 damage dealt
- Turn 5, you swing with 3 attackers for 6 damage dealt
- Turn 6, you swing with 4 attackers for 10 damage dealt
- Turn 7, you swing with 5 attackers for 15 damage dealt
- Turn 8, you swing with 6 attackers for 21 damage dealt
By the time you get to play Sandwurm Convergence, Bitterblossom has already dealt 21 damage. Sure, the 5/5 tokens are bigger and nice, but you get them faaaaaaaaar later than you get the BB tokens. This is part of the reason things with lower CMC are so much better. Speed is very important in MTG.
From a pillowfort perspective, Sandwurm Convergence still doesn't make sense. You even run Solitary Confinement but don't understand why that's such a better card than this one. If you play Idyllic Tutor into Solitary Confinement, you've spent 2 less mana and you STILL get a better effect. Even when these two abiliites of token creation and pillowfort are stapled together, the card just isn't worth the CMC.
The same idea goes for Phyrexian Arena and Honden of Seeing Winds . By turn 5 when you could play Honden, you've already drawn 2 cards with Arena. This is also why Dark Confidant is so expensive and is worlds ahead of Phyrexian Arena , even though it will usually cost you even more life. Having also lower CMC means you can also do multiple things. On turn 4, if you draw a Dark Confidant you can play it while also holding a Counterspell . The same is not true for Phyrexian Arena .
But what about multiple draws from multiple Hondens? That requires a greater number of cards from hand/deck and a waaaaay larger investment in mana. For 4 cards and 17 mana, there are all kinds of way better things you can do. I'd rather just play Mind Unbound and save the 3 other slots, even though that is also a bad card.
Counterbalance is a much better option than any of the other counter enchantments you're running. Unfortunately, you have 0 topdeck manipulation, so you're basically just crossing your fingers and hoping it works.
Relying on Sterling Grove or Privileged Position to protect you from Hive Mind is absurd when you run almost no tutors and very mediocre draw. When are you going to have both these out? If just one of them is out, it gets nuked first by removal, then the rest of your board follows suit. Hive Mind is bad the same way Mind's Dilation is bad, don't rely on your opponents to have certain cards in their decks to win for you.
You rely on about 3 different cards to win, none of them are even close to fast, and you have no way to reliably get them to hand or get them from the command zone. Even in battlecruiser casual EDH, most decks win or create a game winning board state by turn 10. Your game plan is topdeck well or lose. You need to get some better win conditions, or you're going to be losing a lot of games against anyone who has been playing longer than six months. I really don't know why you're writing a primer for a casual mish-mash of 99 cards either, you aren't doing much education on your card choices and I can see no reason someone would run this build over another K&T build. You aren't running optimal card choices, from your lands, to your ramp, to your draw, to your win cons, to your removal, to your pillowfort. This list is just another enchantress list stapled to K&T with almost no wincons and with a sub-optimal Primal Surge package stapled on that doesn't even guarantee a win on resolving.
1 week ago
So I have a couple of opinions on this build. Currently, I don't think your mana works. I feel like you have too many of the Horizon lands, not enough shocks, and the whole thing seems very inconsistent. In loam style decks, you only need about 6 fetches because you can recycle them. I feel like 3 "draw a card" lands is fine for a 4 color deck as well, and you might be better to pick the colors you're most likely to need early game and go with the appropriate lands from there (maybe 2x G/B and 1x R/W). Field of Ruin is better than Ghost Quarter about 75% of the time because you don't go down a land to use it. What I would do for a mana base for this deck is something like this:
1x Field of Ruin , 1x Bojuka Bog , 1x Raging Ravine , 1x Graven Cairns , 2x Nurturing Peatland , 1x Sunbaked Canyon , 3x Verdant Catacombs , 1x Marsh Flats , 2x Wooded Foothills , 2x Blood Crypt , 2x Overgrown Tomb , 1x Godless Shrine , 1x Sacred Foundry , 1x Stomping Ground , 2x Forest , 2x Swamp , 1x Mountain , 1x Sheltered Thicket
This gets you a more solid base that isn't trying to play a little bit of everything like you currently are, and protects from some of the major threats you'll face like blood moon and fields of ruin.
As for the main deck, I like everything in here. Only thing I might suggest is to find room for 2 more discard spells, because 5-7 is the sweet spot for this kind of deck. Maybe cut like one Dark Confidant , one Lingering Souls ? I'm not sure on what will work best there, but adding more discard seems essential.
It looks good though! I'm sure it will be fun to play.
1 week ago
Liliana Vess and other tutors. These cards are never a bad option. I agree that more tutors are good as they find more answers, but to many tutors and you will run out of answers to search for. I wanted to keep more options for good draws instead. Tutors are best situated for the games where you need to find that one card that has a singular effect that will stop you from losing or to find that last key piece to your combo to just go off and win on the spot. This deck requires neither of those lines so I can afford to run less tutors and more answers without losing tempo. I have thought about cards like Dark Confidant to help with more early game draw and I can just use a board wipe to destroy him after I have enough cards in hand and/or don't want to lose any more life to the trigger. Usually my opponents will answer him before I need to either the turn he's played or shortly after as people fear the efficiency of BOB.
Crush Contraband / Mortify These are cards that have niche effects as my worst matchup is against Enchantment heavy strategies. These cards are extra effects that stop these type of decks before they have a chance to gain momentum. It is an inclusion because of the decks I usually play against and I have not had a single game where they didn't come in handy. Also they are removal I can search using Sunforger so they are never bad options if I need one of the effects. My main concern is consistency. I like to run multiples of strong cards that have the same effect to increase my odds of seeing either card during the course of the game.
Read the Bones , Night's Whisper I use Night's Whisper instead of Sign in Blood because I prefer the consistency of playing this turn two with out being prevented by possible mana constraints. I may put these cards in the deck because cheap card draw is never bad and at the cost of 2 life even better. I run Painful Truths as it is the best of the three but I should be running these as well. I will do more testing as see what is under performing to try and add these cards in.
1 week ago
Midnight Reaper is cool and has the knight synergy, but honestly he doesn't provide enough card advantage. And, with more card advantage, I think you can get away with 22 lands. So, I'd move both the Midnight Reaper to the sideboard and drop the Orzhov Guildgate all together in exchange for 3 Ruin Raider
As for dealing with big creatures. The Eldest Reborn is just flat out too expensive, and Oath of Kaya doesn't kill big blockers. I'd drop them altogether. Then, I'd move your Mortify and Moment of Craving into the main, and put 4 Vraska's Contempt or other unconditional removal in the sideboard. But, ultimately there is going to come a time in an aggro deck like this where you have to attack into a bigger blocker to get 2 or 3 other creatures in for damage. As long as you can put more creatures into play than you're losing, and make them leave a blocker(s) up every turn, than you're winning the race. I'd probably be playing both Ruin Raider and Midnight Reaper against a deck like that.
Also, four copies of either Seraph of the Scales or Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord seems like too many, and Duress seems like an inefficient way snipe board wipes... I'd drop Duress and replace them with Unbreakable Formation to either board wipe protect or give you a late game push across the line... Then I'd take out 2 copies of both Seraph of the Scales and Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord and put in 4 copies of Dauntless Bodyguard in their place... Being able to drop 2 power on turn one is where you want to be, and the late game ability to protect a bigger threat against removal or a wipe can't be undervalued either.
All in all: lower your curve, get more card advantage, use more efficient spells, and focus on pushing damage through in a way that will win the race even if you lose some creatures in the process.
Dark Confidant occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.14%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%