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|Modern Masters 2015 Edition (MM2)||Mythic Rare|
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Creature — Human Wizard
At the beginning of your upkeep, reveal the top card of your library and put that card into your hand. You lose life equal to its converted mana cost.
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Dark Confidant Discussion
5 hours ago
So in your opinion Dark Confidant is not good enough, that a slightly worse version of it would be still playable?
(Paying more, while getting a +1/+1 bigger body, and it draws you card in the same turn bob would provide its first draw, that is not such big of a downgrade in my humble opinion - oh and you can always choose not to attack if the life loss becomes a danger)
8 hours ago
For a time i have been toying with a "madness" deck that abused 8x pseudo dark confidant effect - in the person of 4x Asylum Visitor & 4x Blood Scrivener.
And when there are multiples on the field, its just insane.
Of course the problem is you have to empty your hand every turn for them to be active.
But now that Mr. Ruin Raider is able to join Dark Confidant i don't think that its unlikely that a similar archetype could become a powerhouse in modern. (that of course doesn't guarantee anything, but the possibility is there imho)
The goal is to draw so much cards to not have to give a fuck if some of your plays are destroyed by blockers - however this way of play requires lifegain.
(And i think people are much more likely to focus removal on stuff like Tarmogoyf, than Deathgorge Scavenger)
12 hours ago
So you are saying that there is no point to gaining life for BG(X) deck, that throw away their own life total left and right to pay the cost of a wide variety of spells?
Kitchen Finks is surely better against burn - it blocks twice (likely killing 2 creatures) and gains you 4 life.But it won't gain more than 4 life.
In my humble opinion having multiple Dark Confidants on the field is a nice thing to have.
And in such case having some way to gain life is mandatory - otherwise if the opponent manages to stall you with walls for a short time, your own creatures could kill you easily.
(Of course there is no such deck, and even thinking about it is heresy - as if anyone tries to build such a thing it will be unplayable, and the God of spikes will curse that heaton, so that his/her hands will rot off)
1 day ago
Now that is new to me!
This is exactly the first time i hear that Dark Confidant is a bad card.
Would you care to explain why?
If you intend to gain life with it i Wouldn't say Scavenging Ooze is superior. You need to pay on the ooze to gain a 1 life, then pay for each additional point.
Thus at turn 3 you can gain 3, which is 1 better than the dino, but you lost 2 mana already.
(and you can't gain any life with the ooze on turn 2)
The Deathgorge Scavenger gains only 2 life on t3, but it will provide 2 more each turn (as long as its on the field), for free.
1 day ago
In my humble opinion Liliana, the Last Hope is a novelty item, and a win more card that will fade out with standard rotation from jund lists like, Huntmaster of the Fells
Flip, Olivia Voldaren, Courser of Kruphix did.
Ruin Raider - is a likely contender to be Dark Confidant 5 & 6. Since Dark Confidant is a removal magnet, and one of (if not THE) best card in the deck, playing 6 would be ideal.
Since we are discussing the potential of cards, i think its stupid to "name decks" that play it and have large meta share, for a card that just entered standard.
Not to mention that while its true "cards with large meta share are powerful", its contra positive is not. ("cards that don't have large meta share are weak" - which is false)Thus when discussing the potential a freshly printed card, i would try to look and think farther than the typical "its shit if its not in T1 lists".
1 day ago
I can't think of a single BG/x deck that runs more than 4x Dark Confidant MB and only on occasion may you find a Phyrexian Arena in the side. The main reason BG/x wouldn't run this is mana cost. 1) pinging yourself for 3 more than you already do isn't ideal and 2) the 3 mana slot is taken by Liliana of the Veil and Liliana, the Last Hope.
1 day ago
A way to gain back some life in face of burn & life loss from Dark Confidant is very good to have.
I would say that is/was the main purpose of Scavenging Ooze in jund lists - and that is why they were replaced by Courser of Kruphix for some time.
Which is pretty necessary for decks that actively lose their own life.
There are way better cards to disrupt graveyard shenanigans, than Scavenging Ooze.
Even green has Ground Seal which, is a cantrip, an enchantment (thus most deck don't have any interaction with it in their 75), and stops the same problems that Scavenging Ooze works against.
(like gifts ungiven, storm, snapcaster mage... etc.)
P.s.: i would be interested to hear how exactly Scavenging Ooze is a threat to dredge.Since you can't response to the beginning of the draw step, and the replacement effect, i have trouble seeing how you would stop dredge from filling its graveyard. At best Scavenging Ooze may be able to exile some threat and gain you some life.
But its unlikely that you will have enough mana, in time to seriously cripple dredge with this creature.
1 day ago
To illustrate this, GBX decks that run 4 or more copies of Dark Confidant effects, would benefit a lot from not having to spend mana on the activation of Scavenging Ooze, instead getting the value for "free" from Deathgorge Scavenger.