Mind Twist

Sorcery

Target player discards X cards at random.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Big Apple Highlander	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Freeform	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Oldschool 93/94	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
PreDH	Legal
Premodern	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (51)

2000AD on Anti the Deck, Deck

6 months ago

Getting the Blood Moon down is a guaranteed foil to gut The Deck in almost all situations, save for the player finding a Lotus or a Mox to cast Disenchant. That don't always happen, tho. Watched a Blood Moon send it off to the showers in a vid the other day, as a matter of fact. Since you seem to hate "The Deck" as much as I do, maybe you'll enjoy seeing it go down the way I did. Here's the link: BUR Bots vs The Deck - Urza's Miter Cup

I personally can't stand the smugness of any one player who would call their deck THE deck - as if to imply that one creation of theirs were always going to be the end-all, be-all, key to unlock all doors, and that none other could touch it in this regard. Not only that, but for the ingredients of what makes it what it is just being the standard same old, same old: just 6-figures worth of the "best" cards for controlling the entire board in each color .... and friggin' Mind Twist all but guaranteeing the opponent has not much chance of doing anything but sitting there watching the owner play by themselves. Nope. Get out of here.

So good on you, hope your anti-strategy works!

Profet93 on Rule the Galaxy [Kaervek, the Punisher]

9 months ago

Beespair

I'm glad you found my suggestions useful, I am genuinely curious about your thoughts for isochron scepter. Do you feel it's too much of a 2 for 1 risk or is there another reason to not warrant it's inclusion despite it's high ceiling?

Also, do you have enough draw? I only see about 5-6 cards that draw. With such a low avg cmc, I can imagine you run out of gas pretty quickly. While some are better than others, here are some potential considerations: Night's Whisper/Sign in Blood (Can target opponents in a pinch + politics), Read the Bones (scry is useful) or a Syphon Mind (expensive cmc but is usually draw 3, each opponent discards one).

How has cabal ritual been playing for you? I understand your deck is low to the ground and you can fill up your GY quickly, but with all the self-exile, do you find yourself often meeting the threshold requirement?

Vampiric TutorGC - I presume budget restrictions preclude it, although I see no mention of budget in the description.

Mind Twist - Triggers commands, anti blue (cast for 2-3, force them to use counterspell prior to using your wincon), or just ramp and make them cry.

Would love to pick your brain about your cool deck :)

Profet93 on Soul Siphon

1 year ago

firasnake

Sensei's Divining Top - While expensive, its powerful on it's own, even more so with shuffling effects. Plus its an additional combo line for bolas citadel + aetherflux + top. Its not useless on it's own so thats a great benefit.

You have a lot of "if you lose, do this instead" cards. How helpful have they actually been? Swapping them out for additional ramp, draw, tutors or even removal might be more beneficial.

Mind Twist - Blue counterspell hate as they will eventually learn to just hold onto a counter for ur combo. If you have a lot of anti creature meta, Thought Distortion is a silver bullet that turns heads. Not a serious suggestion but worth noting.

jethstriker on How Good is Tyrannize?

1 year ago

If the goal of the deck is to make the opponent discard, then I suggest you replace the creatures that needs to connect first for more dedicated discard spells. Wrench Mind, Hymn to Tourach, and Mind Twist partnered with The Rack and Shrieking Affliction makes a good base for a discarder deck.

Also, I think its already common knowledge that choice cards are not ideal inclusions. If you really insist on using them, one of the better choice cards I recommend is Vexing Devil. It comes down fast and early enough that the opponent might make the wrong choice due to lack of information.

RiotRunner789 on How Good is Tyrannize?

1 year ago

In commander, I'd play Lava Axe over this. Mostly it'd be for a laugh but ideally you play neither. Bloodchief Ascension for life loss or Mind Twist for targeted discard would probably be better.

Profet93 on Maha EDH

2 years ago

Beseech the Mirror and Beseech the Queen are additional tutors that might interest you to help you with consistency. More card draw in the form of Syphon Mind and Read the Bones are useful as well to maintain gas and help you get what you need. Dead of Winter might fit well for this deck as another wipe given your snow lands.

Regarding non-creature based decks, what is your meta looking like in terms of that? Is it a lot of blue players? If so, some hand hate in the form of Mind Twist (note, it says random!) as counterbait or Thought Distortion for something as a silver bullet.

Given your commander deck is heavily based on your commander, you should find additional ways to protect it. Whether it's something simple like lightning greaves or swiftfoot boots, or something more generally helpful such as Necropotence to give you additional draw to help with your ward.

I can give you ideas for cuts if you want.

000CBomb000 on Draw a Few Format?

2 years ago

I play Old School and in casual games we have a house rule that we draw two each turn, with no discarding required in the first turn only. It has several advantages:

• dramatically reduces the likelihood of mana flood/screw.
• it speeds up games, since you generally play a land and cast at least one spell per turn. Otherwise, with typical draw one, players tend to empty their hands quickly and the game slows down dramatically.
• it decreases the effectiveness of control decks like The Deck, which aren't fun to play against anyway. It increases the effectiveness of Aggro styles, which are more fun. Creatures are really janky in Old School and they need as much help as they can get.
• it reduces the advantage of Library of Alexandria, Braingeyser, and Jayemdae Tome, and reduces the disadvantage of Mind Twist, any of which can be nearly fatal in Old School matches.

There is even an Old School variant called "Gentleman's Rules" that bans Library and Mind Twist because they are so powerful in single-draw. In double draw, they are not a problem.

The only downsides:

• cards that punish card draw get much stronger. Chains of Mephistopheles and Underworld Dreams become very strong, almost problematic. If enacted in a tournament, it would definitely change the meta (maybe that's good!). We would likely have to restrict these.
• Sylvan Library becomes very strong, and may need to be restricted.

Some of those factors may be relevant to Commander. Definitely try it out!

Profet93 on Toshiro, The Black Swordsman

2 years ago

8netherwind8 +1

Kind of hard to provide meaningful suggestions when the commander switches like that. I will say, that's a pretty cool idea!

At the risk of sounding too unimpactful, perhaps a Sensei's Divining Top to go with Rings? Rings + temple + coffers = {INFINITY}{B} are you stated. Adding top allows to draw and cast your entire deck. It's obviously useful on it's own, even better with shuffling effects like fetchlands (which rings turns into ramp) and urborg allows you to keep the fetches "as swamps" while saving them for rings. I made a deck off of that philosophy so that's my bias.

Should you ever want to remove some of the less impactful cards, Mind Twist can put in some work. It's counterspell bait at worst, it can be ramped into in early game crippling one player, and late game just put someone in top decking mode assuming they have no meaningful board presence.