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Mana Drain Discussion
5 hours ago
Cover of Darkness is a good tribal evasion-giver.
I highly suggest some sort of top-deck manipulation. Unfortunately, a lot of the best cards in this arena are very expensive: Jace, the Mind Sculptor , Sensei's Divining Top and Scroll Rack all cost a pretty penny. Soothsaying is another good option, as it lets you stack heavy CMC cards on top of the deck to hit opponents more reliably.
You should consider the new ninja they spoiled today: Fallen Shinobi. I think it'll be pretty good.
I think Demonic Tutor is better than Insidious Dreams . I think you should run it if you have access to it. Lim-Dul's Vault is a good sort of tutor, is more affordable, and also allows you to stack your deck with high mana-cost cards to flip off your general.
Commandeer is a good piece of disruption with a high CMC. It's still about $20 though.
Windfall is a good way to refill your hand.
Bolas's Citadel is a good way to get cheaper cards off the top of your deck. Also, if you combo it with the aforementioned Sensei's Divining Top , you can clear annoying lands off the top of your library.
I don't think you should run 36 lands. Cutting 2 or 3 is very much on the table.
Augury Owl should be mainboard. You can play it, scry something big to the top, attack with it the next turn and then ninjutsu out your general to flip the fatty.
Baleful Strix is a good creature you can return with a ninja. When it enters it draws a card, so being able to repeatedly cast it will give you a lot of card advantage. Looter il-Kor and Cloud of Faeries are also good two-drops to be running, as they are difficult to block and provide extra value.
Twilight Prophet is a good card, as it draws extra and works within your decks theme.
Curtains' Call is a good, cost-reducing creature that can two-for-one your opponents.
Morphic Pool is a good dual land.
Good luck with deck building!
1 day ago
How about Chrome Mox , Mox Opal , Mox Diamond , Mana Vault , Mana Crypt and Sensei's Divining Top instead of the janky equipments? Also, I would probably run stuff like Mana Drain , Force of Will , Swan Song , Pact of Negation and the new Force of Negation in a mono blue combo deck like this (if money is not an issue).
You can also add Intuition and Reconstruction so you have an additional tutor to search for your artifact combo pieces. (Search for Reconstruction , Buried Ruin / Academy Ruins and the combo piece.) Good thing about these cards is that they are also useful on their own.
Tolaria West can be a useful tool to tutor for specific lands or your zero mana stuff (especially usefull if you add pact of negation).
1 week ago
We run similar lists, with yours focused more on the mana base. You can afford to be a bit greedy often times with all the spells that can cantrip, especially running Mana Drain as the counter can turn into you winning the game. For reference, On Tilts is the original list that has been being updated for a bit now. Let me know how yours turns out with your playgroup so I can see what to adopt!
2 weeks ago
THCue You are probably right regarding the budget. When I made and bought the deck, the most expensive card was Mana Drain with 40€, rest of the deck around 80€. The price, especially for defenders, steadily increased. I don't think I want to add fetches though, atleast not yet.
Like HobbyGamer007 explained, Dispel will also stay. And like I and HobbyGamer007 mentioned earlier I will also put Wall of Runes in and Perimeter Captain out. I just need to get one. While I agree, that Masako the Humorless became unnecessary over the time, I don't think, Teyo, the Shieldmage is the card to go, he is just too expensive, for what he does, atleast in my opinion. I really tend to Heroic Intervention here, to gain more protection for our creatures.
I'm not sold on fetchlands yet, they would increase the price drastically and also change the manabase. I currently run all the shock lands, but i think they could have an impact on the battle lands in the deck (depending on the amount of basics/fetches).
Command Beacon is good in a very toxic meta, but I usually have answers to this in my hand in form of counterspells. Also it provides only which could screw up early turns. Same is true for Cavern of Souls . I think it is too extreme to choose "Dragon" for it, while it provides only for everything else. I really haven't had any issues recasting Arcades in the past, due to all the protection I have in the deck. That's also the reason I only run one card like High Alert and I also never had to use one of those in my games either.
Is Arcades being destroyed/countered/etc. a lot in your guys meta?
2 weeks ago
Hi Deadalus19876. First question. Do you play Dota? Your name is a dota item.
Prismatic Omen and lest also include Realmwright . I did play them once in my original deck way back. Like 3 years ago. And I found it to be better to include more mountains and cut those two cards. For a simple reason. This deck only needs Valakut and then it's rock and rolling. If I cut mountains and add these two cards it becomes a 2 card combo. And if you wanna have 2 card combos then Flash + Protean Hulk is just better. Now sitting with Valakut and activating Thrasios isn't a 1 card combo. But it kinda is.
Mana Drain the answer is simple. 2 blue mana is a bit heavy. Sure I have a Pact of Negation . I guess mana drain is card you could include however so I will add it to the maybe board. Like it could be included for sure. Pyroblast is already inside that deck. But I guess I forgot Swan Song . In the video, I did mention why I don't play mana crypt. If I am to unlucky that coin flip will kill my combo. Sure you could play it and never cast it until you draw ad nauseaum. Personally, I dislike cards that function that way. That is the same thing with Dark Ritual . I am not a fan of consumable rituals. I kinda like permanent rituals like Carpet of Flowers . But I agree that dark ritual should be mentioned. Others might like it and I agree that you could play it. I will add it to my maybeboard.
I am going to be blunt: Its the idea you should netdeck. Not the exact deck recipe. This deck doesn't have to be built in this exact way. It is a very open deck. You can add more lands. Or even cut lands. You could add more artifacts and add Mox Opal . So if you believe in the idea, maybe you could build it in a way that you believe will function.
I believe this function. From experience. Also, I am not saying this is the best EDH deck ever. That isn't it.
3 weeks ago
Moreover, look, I understand the lack of Force of Will in this 4C deck, but why are you running Clash of Wills over, say, Mana Drain (which can also ramp you into other things)? Condescend but no Pyroblast or Swan Song ? You want to cast Ad Nauseam but have no Mana Crypt or Dark Ritual (or, for that matter, any good ramp)?
I'm going to be blunt: I like the IDEA but the deck seems very poorly built for cEDH.
1 month ago
Patryn I just got a Mana Drain today in a pack of Iconic masters as well as picking up the Sword of Feast and Famine from a local shop so the deck is coming along nicely. I was just curious of your thoughts of Mana drain since it only gives colorless mana.
1 month ago
Well Mana Drain is a plain upgrade from counterspell so Sure even better
Mana Drain occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.09%
G/U (Simic): 0.6%
W/U/B (Esper): 0.71%
U/B/R (Grixis): 0.68%
BUG (Sultai): 0.54%