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Mana Drain Discussion
1 day ago
Sorry About the Delay.
So far I have a few suggestions:
Karmic Guide : Can be some helpful recursion
Gilded Drake : This could be fun, especially if you start bouncing him back to your hand! He is expensive though, so that could be a problem.
Wall of Denial : A solid wall if you ever need it
Akroma, Angel of Wrath : Just a big beater
Angelic Arbiter : A good way to control the board
Archon of Justice : Some good removal
Consecrated Sphinx : A good card, will draw some hate though (but better they use removal on him and not Isperia).
Linvala, Keeper of Silence : Some good control if you run into decks with a lot of this.
Sphinx of Magosi : Not the best card, but I personally like it. It's fun to play, and it can give you cards while it gets bigger.
Tidespout Tyrant : An absolute must in this deck
Yosei, the Morning Star : Some more good control
Venser, Shaper Savant : More good bounce
Dissipation Field : If your fliers don't discourage people from attacking you this definitely will, especially since they know you can name cards.
Gitaxian Probe : Amazing for this deck
Telepathy : Same as above
Favorable Winds : Good support
Reliquary Tower : This is a staple in all my EDH decks
I hope that this wasn't too overwhelming. If you need any more help just let me know!
2 days ago
pesmerga87 - Psychosis Crawler is defiantly a scumbag card that deserves a spot in this deck. I was first shying away from him because it's cost is high and will probably not be able to hold any instant speed reaction, but I'll give him chance!
Hidden50 - Thank you so much for commenting friend! Sylvan Library Should be in every deck that runs green, right? The only reason I am not running it is because I am trying to keep the build on the cheaper side; just for fun. Otherwise, Mana Crypt , Mana Drain , and Pact of Negation would be in there too. My expensive cards are on in another deck.
Savage Summoning is an interest idea. As of right now my playgroup doesn't run an excessive amount of Counterspell so that's not really a problem. They run a lot of single target removal and of course board wipes.
Attunement - I have never seen this card! I absolutely love it. Defiantly gonna throw it in!
4 days ago
Great list you have! Here might be some cards you can consider for more effective ramp package, control, or protection.
- Three Visits
- Carpet of Flowers
- Search for Tomorrow
- Summoner's Pact
- Mana Drain
- Autumn's Veil
- Noxious Revival
- Seeds of Innocence
- Nature's Claim
- Crop Rotation
Hope that helps!
1 week ago
Thanks for your interest in the deck! Glad to hear that you’re enjoying it. Probably the easiest cut for Force is Foil, they occupy the same slot but force is easier to free cast. It isn’t unreasonable to run both, you may even consider just cutting Counterspell or Arcane Denial.
@Polupus hey thanks for the interest in my deck! I love Kami although my brewing time has been spent elsewhere recently. I have made a few changes that I need to update the list on. By far my largest change has been adding Expropriate in that I pulled out of a different list.
I love all of your suggestions, and I also love how Kami can be built in so many ways and there are so many powerful cards! Metamorphic Alteration is an insane one - I love it and I’m going to find room to double up on Kami while also removing a commander. Pure beauty!
Kederekt Leviathan has always been on my short list. I tend to favor instant speed board wipes as they enable me to play draw go which is my preference. But honestly the card is so powerful it makes me want to break that rule whenever I consider him!
Nexus of Fate is 100% on my add list after it rotates out of standard. Just tailor made for this deck couldn’t agree more!
That last suggestion is a spicy one, wow! I dig it, I don’t know if I can find the cuts for it but I love finding out about awesome random combos like that so thanks for the suggestions!
2 weeks ago
TheRedGoat: I have thought about those type of situations. It is pretty hard trying to stop those triggers, especially with just reactive spells. We do run a lot of proactive permanents like Humility and Torpor Orb to deal with heavy creature decks. We have Overburden and Mana Breach to assist us with heavy land ramp decks. Other then that I do not think there is anything else we can really use for "trigger hate". I think we expect to see a lot of cards like Aura Shards and Knight of Autumn type cards while playing, but our biggest worries are actually the cards that wipe the board. We sort of loathe cards like Cyclonic Rift and Purify because it is hard for us to rebuild if we through our cards out there. which is why we should play with that in mind and try to think ahead of our opponents. Figure out their decks and make sure not to toss everything out there. While we are proactive players, we can still be reactive with our choices.
In my opinion, counter spells like Negate, Swan Song, Dispel, ect.. are fine. They allow you to have an ability to counter spells cheaply with ease. They also work well with multicolored decks and All in combo decks like Food Chain and Storm. Granted, I am a big advocate of running the "Catch all" counter spells because they are good in all situations majority of the time, but only cards like Mana Drain, Counterspell, Force of Will,Pact of Negation, ect.. while they are able to hit anything they always come at a greater cost. these would be used more sparingly on more spells that are either threats or might end up winning the game for the other players. To be honest, running a good balence of both of them would help make your deck a bit more resilient against other control decks and also let you interact with other players.
3 weeks ago
Splash in Mana Drain and make them pay for it!
Thrun 2024!! Make Zendikar Great Again baby! Keep those Eldrazis out!
1 month ago
This runs too many lands. With your average cost you should cut 3 or 4 of them. You should invest in better artifact ramp: Mox Diamond, Chrome Mox, Mana Crypt, and/or Mana Vault. You should also look a Carpet of Flowers. Furthermore, his deck isn't utilizing anywhere near enough countermagic. Try including: Force of Will, Mana Drain, Swan Song, Mental Misstep and/or Delay.
1 month ago
Well, as a player who is currently building muldrotha too (Muldrotha the Wealthy for reference purposes and casual self-promotion), I am eager to lend a hand. I personally started out with a goal in mind - win by casting Villainous Wealth a lot. For a while, my deck was literally Muldrotha and VW only, until I figured out how to fill the gaps.
This is the biggest miss here. I do not see any goal. The current deck is a pile of cards with no real purpose. For example, you have Conduit of Ruin that fetches nothing, The Mending of Dominaria, which shuffles back your whole graveyard, Mystic Retrieval which has a blue/red identity and is not legal to play in a muldrotha deck and you have Mana Drain and Sisters of Stone Death in the same deck...
There are some questions here and it is time to get some answers:
- In one sentence, how do you want to win?
- Based on that sentence, can you identify 10 cards in the current deck that do not support that?
- Does your deck have any restrictions in terms of budget or something else?