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Torment of Hailfire
Repeat the following process X times. Each opponent loses 3 life unless that player sacrifices a nonland permanent or discards a card.
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Torment of Hailfire Discussion
2 days ago
Inquisition of Kozilek is the next best discard spell after Thoughtseize, it's a bit expensive but a lot better than TS. The reason you lost to elves is probably because you have no main deck removal spells, and the removal you do have in the sideboard isn't very good. Some targeted removal like Cast Down in the main deck would improve your creature deck matchup a lot.
In your sideboard, Bile Blight is ok in small numbers (like 2 at most) since it's good against tokens and you play against pyromancer decks, but with so few lands there are just better cards than Killing Wave. Same deal with Torment of Hailfire. Some sweepers you could play include Drown in Sorrow, Mutilate, and Languish.
Also, you need to go up to at least 20 lands with so many 3 and 4 cost cards. There's just no way Cabal Stronghold is gonna do more than break even in a single game with 18 lands, much less make more mana, so you should cut it and play some Bojuka Bog or something. 18 is about how many lands Burn plays, and they only have like 8 spells that cost more than 1 mana.
If you want to upgrade, the best way to go for a discard deck is to use The Rack and Shrieking Affliction to close out the game with damage (it's an archetype called 8-Rack). That way you don't need to use any creatures which makes any removal your opponents have dead cards, and you can play sweepers in the maindeck which would improve your elves and pyromancer matchup. Since it's discard you're already naturally good against control, and against hollow one you just need to play targeted removal. Idk if you'd want to upgrade to something like that though, since it could qualify as a "net deck." your choice.
3 days ago
If you are looking for a winning condittion, Torment of Hailfire is also a good alternative, I have a very similar deck "The Scarab and the Forty Thieves" that you can get good ideas. The difference is that I have nothing to feed zombies because I have more control cards and cards that steal from opponents. Praetor's Grasp and Memory Plunder are excellent cards to have alternatives where the dimmer decks are weak like destroying enchantments or artifacts ... (against me they play very enchantments and artifacts of exiling cemeteries) I also really enjoyed your Meteor Golem ... About counters when you play Draining Whelk you will not want anything else ... And you even need a Phyrexian Metamorph or better, Clever Impersonator ... They make a difference ...
Hope to help you how you have helped me!
3 days ago
You don't have Sun Titan or Reveillark, so it can't be that mean of a deck. You could have included an infinite sac cycle with Revy and Karmic Guide, with a little back-up from Solemn Simulacrum or Blood Artist, but you didn't. You could have even sacked to Ashnod's Altar for an exorbitant amount of mana to cast Torment of Hailfire; but again, there is too much kindness in your heart.
4 days ago
Don't know which helm you're talking about.
Have you considered some copies of Torment of Hailfire as a finisher? Would be ridiculous with all your rituals.
5 days ago
Forgot to include this in the original comment but Walking Ballista is a fairly inconsistent win condition and Banefire or Torment of Hailfire would serve the purpose better as they have a lower barrier to kill, and if we employ Torment, then even if we can’t kill we can damage their board state and card advantage so much that they can’t recover and we can win by default.
5 days ago
Barrelrider It's funny, after you asked about the signets I played at the Duel Commander tourney at my LGS and found them to be frustrating. I might cut them out soon. And, yeah, the curve recently jumped up a bit when I made some edits that I still need to document here. Gonna keep that in mind when I take another edit. Torment of Hailfire is a house!
1 week ago
I think the idea behind Amulet of Safekeeping is to go against modern and legacy storm lists, run on Tendrils of Agony/Grapeshot and Empty the Warrens. Sadly EDH storm normally uses Exsanguinate/Torment of Hailfire to win if they are an Ad Nauseam deck, or if they are normal storm Aetherflux Reservoir. Artifact storm lists use an infinite combo like Isochron Scepter/Dramatic Reversal, Paradox Engine/Strionic Resonator, or Grim Monolith/Power Artifact and Blue Sun's Zenith everyone to death.
So most lists wouldn't be affected in commander.
1 week ago
I dig it. I just finished my Vaevictis list as well. He's incredibly powerful in Brawl. Here are some cards that I would recommend you find a slot for:
The Scorpion God is the non-commander MVP. It gives you board presence (6/5), a mana-sink value engine (-1/-1 counters for cards), and recursion - what else could you possibly ask for?
Torment of Hailfire is the best "I win the game" card in the Brawl format, bar none. I will be soooooo sad when it rotates. It literally represents over 50% of my wins with my Angrath, the Flame-Chained deck.
If Vaevictis is on the board, Dead Man's Chest represents awesome card advantage because you can so reliably destroy whatever creature you attach it to.