Demon's Disciple

Creature — Human Cleric

When Demon's Disciple enters the battlefield, each player sacrifices a creature or planeswalker.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Alchemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Brawl	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Penny Dreadful	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Pre-release	Legal
Standard	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (41)

DreadKhan on unthinkable apocalypse

2 months ago

I'm not certain the Commander has enough explosive power to consistently win vs 2 decks, but I have very good results in 1 v 1 with my Rakdos deck, and it often has spare cards by the end of the game, be it wipe or removal, because the deck just runs so much of those, with lots of the removal hitting more than 1 target (I love stuff like Phyrexian Purge, Fire Covenant, Make an Example, and Volcanic Offering can each be a terror of a card, and a deck running all of them has lots of pinpoint removal that will clear lots of stuff out. Ashes to Ashes and Reckless Spite also exist fwiw, and if you aren't certain you'll have creatures out, Tergrid's Shadow can do a bit of work, as can Plaguecrafter or Demon's Disciple, cards Sedris can recur for 2B even. Another value card is Dredge the Mire, which can cheat in the 3 worst creatures in people's graveyards, note certain creatures will kill you if you control them, so check before playing! Necromantic Selection not only clears the field, it also gives you back the best thing, this is extra juicy if you use some sort of Indestructible creature(s) that won't die. If you consistently have a fairly big creature, or one with Deathtouch and Lifelink, Chandra's Ignition is one sided by definition, one of many cards that shines brightly with Basilisk Collar (which is also very good with Jaya Ballard, Task Mage or even good old Banshee, Jaya's 6 damage wipe really is amazing if you've got Collar on her, though it'll kill her too). If you expect to have multiple opponents, Goad is a very strong effect, Karazikar, the Eye Tyrant is potentially pretty solid, lots of card draw. There is also Kardur, Doomscourge that will force everyone's hand. Spectacular Showdown is a great card if you've actually got a board of your own to finish people off, keep in mind that on your next turn, you not only won't have been attacked by any pre-existing creature, everyone else will have swung for the fences with Double Strike, and they will likely have nothing left to defend with, making your Double Strikers very effective. Another Goad source that is great with a creature heavy board is Agitator Ant, which is hilarious a lot of the time. If you're using Goad effects, War Tax can let an opponent have a way around them, if there is a tax to attack Goad fails, and War Cadence is absolutely devastating with Goad, even a tax of 1 to block can make blocking impossible for weenie decks, and you can use either on anyone's turn.

As you've got access to Blue, there are a few non-Rakdos tricks you can use, the most hilarious I know of is Mass Diminish, note that it lasts until your next turn and have a good laugh. There is also Sudden Spoiling, which is powerful but lasts for that turn, or Polymorphist's Jest, which is similarly a 1 turn solution. I use Mass Diminish more aggressively, to make a player hyper-vulnerable to attackers (and make them unable to counter attack), getting two casts is just savage. Visions of Duplicity can create some chaos with it's two casts, Cultural Exchange is obscene if someone else has better creatures. Bident of Thassa is glorious if you want both of it's effects, forcing people to attack is incredibly mean, and this doesn't require you to run a weenie like Goblin Diplomats, but that's also a fun card fwiw. If you're going to run Oriq Loremage, you might slip in a huge creature to Unearth, something like Dragon Tyrant can be huge and not break the bank, Double Strike and Firebreathing are really good together, and you won't have to pay the upkeep with Unearth, he's dead before that matters.

I was looking at your land count and average Mana Value and I think you probably are running too few lands at this point, it's very tempting to cut them, but 30 is probably too few for a MV that is over 2.5. You might get away with adding 2 mana ramp, but I'd still aim for at least 36 lands (or MDFCs that count as a land, you probably already have the best two MDFCs in those colours, but people also run Malakir Rebirth  ^Flip) to ensure you can consistently cast stuff. There is a smattering of ways you can run less lands/ramp, but these all come with downsides, but in Grixis you can run 4 solid Bounce Lands, Dimir Aqueduct and Guildless Commons should be in here as well if you want a lower land count, these let you hit another land drop when you draw them. You might also run stuff like Thran Dynamo or Worn Powerstone to help you hit higher MVs sooner, ramping by only 1 mana feels bad compared to hitting a land drop most of the time, there is also Gilded Lotus, but hitting 5 mana can be rough. Coalition Relic can charge for 1 turn, Skyclave Relic is super versatile/rugged, and Everflowing Chalice can be huge if you want, 6-10 mana is absurd but sometimes comes up. Cantrips like Ponder and Preordain are also good at digging for a land, but I know in Talrand it stings pretty bad when you Preordain and don't find a land and I needed one. As for some cards to remove, I'll take a look, but if I'm trying to build a deck that can handle attention, I look first at cards that will hurt only 1 player, unless that card will almost certainly end that player, either right away or in a few turns.

A few to consider removing (I may be missing why you have them in, so user discretion is advised or something): Archive Trap, Outpost Siege, Palace Siege, Ponder, Preordain, Haunting Echoes, Cruel Ultimatum (this seems insanely hard to cast, and hits only 1 player, unless you can copy it I'd run Captive Audience if I want to hose one player hard), Cranial Extraction, Cormela, Glamour Thief, Kess, Dissident Mage, Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger, Lobber Crew, Loyal Subordinate, Nekusar, the Mindrazer, Obeka, Brute Chronologist, Phenax, God of Deception, Runo Stromkirk  ^Flip, Spear Spewer, and Thermo-Alchemist.Some maybe cards include Angrath, Captain of Chaos, and Cryptolith Fragment  ^Flip (for another land, maybe a better rock, there is Thought Vessel, but fixing is sweet in Grixis).

Hope some of this is helpful!

Grind on Meren

4 months ago

cool deck!!! it looks great.
a couple comments:
I prefer Caustic Caterpillar and Reclamation Sage over acidic slime because of lower mana cost. the caterpillar is great because you can recur him and he sacs himself.
i prefer Regrowth to restock as 2 mana is much easier to pay than 5.
having sac outlets is very important to meren, High Market is decent, as is Viscera Seer.
having recurrable creatures that double as removal is great for controlling the board. some options are: Big Game Hunter, Nekrataal, Bone Shredder, Plaguecrafter, Demon's Disciple.
creatures with innate recursion are useful, i like Reassembling Skeleton.
some great low mana value enchantments: Phyrexian Reclamation, Animate Dead.
it's good to pack draw spells, some to consider, Life's Legacy, Momentous Fall, Rishkar's Expertise, Skullclamp.
last comment, more ramp is good, and boardwipes might be helpful. Decree of Pain is solid because it can draw you a ton of cards. and lots of good ramp in green out there, i like to run 10 ramp cards. Wood Elves can fetch you Haunted Mire, 2 mana ramp like three visits and nature's lore are good, or cultivate and kodama's reach are solid performers. when deciding what to cut, i look at the top of the mana curve. having fewer 5, 6, and 7 drops will help make your early game more consistent and will make your deck more competitive.
anyway just some thoughts, hope it helps and keep on having fun!!!

FolkOccult on Sheoldred, Rising Dead v2

5 months ago

Boxfish It was a wonderful weekend, thank you!

I love all of these changes, they look quite well-decided. Viscera Seer is a monstrous card when you can use them. They've the ability to just help you dig for answers, like your Crypt Rats or Gray Merchant of Asphodel.

It's a touch rude for a solution, but for token producers like Scute Swarm, Krenko, Mob Boss, Myr Battlesphere, Thopter Assembly, or even Blade of Selves; Pestilence, Withering Wisps, Toxic Deluge; Cheap solutions that can get expensive, that can wipe your own dudes (but it's not like you're unable to bring them back).

If you're ever looking for ways to wipe the board without playing Mass Removal which Indestructable can dodge. Dictate of Erebos, Grave Pact, Urborg Justice, Killing Wave, Torment of Hailfire can access more than one target in a turn, and remove them without the need for targeting and benefit you in the ability to just bring a dude back with your commander or any other spell. Though I can't deny that this is a rather rude option, especially with cards like Tergrid, God of Fright  ^Flip, who would just give you control of all creatures your opponent's could sac. You'll gain control of most any board with just Tergrid alone. Then you've got little dudes like Fleshbag Marauder, Demon's Disciple, Plaguecrafter, Merciless Executioner, Gravelighter, Slum Reaper, which all had triggered abilities that react to the formerly listed removal, your commander, Ayara, First of Locthwain, and is prone to getting your targeted even harder, but does result in a powerful and satisfying resolve once you carry the reputation of dishing out a challenge. Depending on overall deck-composition. I don't necessarily recommend all of these; but... just saying Pestilence will get your table's attention every time, draw every bit of removal, and can you activated in response to any cast that isn't a counter. With a single Dark Ritual or Cabal Coffers cast/activation... your table will weep. Sorta.

I don't know if you can directly link decks, but my Halana and Alena, Totally Just Roommates, and my Atla Palani deck's all feature cards printed in their respective planes if not, cards printed in extra supplementary sets like how Odric, Master Tactician was first printed in (M13) but is unable to planeswalk to other planes, and resides on Innistrad; technically the coresets were the base and all else added to their printings and materials, but in reality it felt like the other way around (in my experience), the story blocks made the "core" sets feel like additional content to add to your lore; this being a factor I consider when building some decks. Sacrificial Splicer is a similar case (Except I kept my favorite artifacts from other planes in the deck, I have Ich-Tekik, Salvage Splicer as a partner to Rebbec, Architect of Ascension who are respective enemies in a sense to the Phyrexian cause, one directly influencing the Praetors while the other for a time was using Powerstones to make a barrier strong enough to keep Phyrexia out, and have constructed the deck around ''Compleating'' Rebbec, which locks the board down.

The Lore in magic, is an entire rabbit hole I highly recommend exploring. Pick a plane and start from there. Find a character from that plane and follow their journey. If not by card, by flavor text. If you're into it enough, there are a series of comics out there printed by ARMADA. The Shadow Mage and Dakkon Blackblade are some of my favorite printed stories in magic, which just recently received cards. Likewise was true a couple of years ago for Yawgmoth and Urza who didn't really see their official name's on legendary cards until 2020 (despite having story presence since the beginning). The Weatherlight Crew, new and old, feel like a group of avengers, using their ship to planeswalk because they don't have a spark, and are simply putting together this weapon to stop the ultimate evil, and you can almost feel the stakes mounting as you scroll through the sets they were released in. From Urza's Sage to Invasion, to Time Spiral, to Dominaria. Now Dominaria United. I believe the story of the cards makes the deck that much more meaningful, but there's something to be said about finding the most fun cards and constructing something nuts out of them.

Kret on Does the new card -> …

8 months ago

Let's suppose I have Athreos, Shroud-Veiled, creature A that has 'destroy a creature on etb' with a coin counter and Resourceful Defense on the battlefield, and I play another creature B that has 'destroy a creature on etb'.
Can I stack triggers so that:
1. Creature A with the coin counter will die on etb of creature B
2. I'll move the coin counter from A to B
3. Bring creature A back with the Athreos, Shroud-Veiled trigger
4. Target creature B with creature A etb 'destroy another target creature'
5. Move counter again. Rinse and repeat

Can I move the counter this way? Does that work the way I think?

Examples of combos I have in mind:
Fell Stinger + Sidisi, Undead Vizier for infinite tutor and draw on exploit
Plaguecrafter + Demon's Disciple for infinite etb, ltb and discard
Noxious Gearhulk + Cavalier of Dawn for infinite etb, ltb, lifegain and tokens

DreadKhan on It's Just a Flesh Wound (Budget Meren)

9 months ago

Callous Bloodmage does offer value each time he's recurred, but it's the ability to cost your opponent their graveyard that's most important. Most decks are stronger with some graveyard hate added, especially if it doesn't affect your own graveyard. If nobody uses their graveyards in your games other than you, you can indeed skip it.

Granger vs Ranger is interesting, both have upsides, but I think Granger putting the land into play and dying on your next upkeep is why I think it's better, Ranger forces you to use your landfall for turn to utilize it's ability, and while it's cheaper, it won't be anywhere near as recursive since it doesn't die on it's own. I often find that reanimating a card that digs out a land before dying is often one of the better things Meren can do early, it adds ramp and XP, both things Meren wants.

For Lurking Predators, large amounts of creatures tend to be better than a single big one in my experience, and if you do add it you can always load your deck down with all the Merciless Executioner type cards. Gravelighter and Demon's Disciple also exist, and there are others. You can also use stuff like Reclamation Sage with Predators, any ETB effects that matters will be very strong, even if the body attached isn't especially big. One thing that will help Predators work better is replacing as many non-creature effects with creatures. Vs a non-creature sac outlet, Dockside Chef (or even Skullport Merchant) might not be spectacular, but as a body you can reanimate it if you need to, or even sacrifice it for value, you can't do either with a spell. I try not to run ramp that isn't stapled to a body in my Meren deck, there are so many great creature sources of mana that you don't really need many spells/artifacts.

Sorry for not throwing in a 'cards to remove' section, I also find that hard to do. If I have a minute, I'll suggest a few that might be good to remove.

hiddengibbons on Mola Ram’s Black Mass

9 months ago

I like it. My Rakdos deck They were Expendable went in a different direction. Mine focuses on filling the graveyard for Bonehoard. But given the amount of graveyard hate, your build is more resilient. I might take mine in a similar direction to yours. I like Lightning Skelemental and Demon's Disciple in suicide/sacrifice decks. I think Lashwrithe goes well with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

Guerric on Cheat Death

10 months ago

Hi peterbdude! This is definitely moving in a good direction and I think you'll enjoy it! Just a few thoughts. Dictate of Erebos is great and I used to play it in Meren, but I found that I actually like more clones of Fleshbag Marauder instead. This is because we can get them with Meren if they are dredge into our graveyard, and can recur them to cull our opponents' boards. The pro-tip for this card and its clones is to always sac the Marauder itself and not another creature, since then it will be in the Graveyard where you can bring it back every turn to clear your opponents' battlefields of creatures. You have Marauder and Demon's Disciple and Plaguecrafter, but there are also Merciless Executioner, Gravelighter, and Slum Reaper if you are interested. I'll also say that I used to play Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest but didn't particularly care for him, but that could just be me.

DreadKhan on Meren EDH deck help

10 months ago

I agree with Guerric, look for small creatures with useful effects that sacrifice themselves or can sacrifice another creature with low or no cost. You probably want to be recuring stuff for it's ETB or death trigger. For a few specifics, I think you probably want to look into cards that are similar to Sakura-Tribe Elder, I run that, Dawntreader Elk, Diligent Farmhand, Yavimaya Granger, Fertilid and even Blood Pet to have lots of creatures I can use to ramp repeatedly with. Blood Pet is a bit worse at ramping, but it's one of the better XP sources, alongside Spore Frog by being a 1 drop that can sacrifice itself. You can also run cards like Wood Elves and Farhaven Elf, but these are not as good because they can't sacrifice themselves. With those self-sacrificing rampers, you can easily outramp almost any deck, and the deck likely 'needs' to hit only 3 lands to start working. Noting that I always need to have Green mana meant brutal cutbacks in my Swamp count, but since I run so many ways to find Swamps, I often can ramp out many before I win. If you use tons of Green Creature Ramp (which you should be IMHO), you will always need at least 1 Green Mana to get by, and Green mana can usually get you black on or before turn 4, so keep that in mind. I think you should try to cut out artifact and spell ramp in favour of creature ramp, and do similar with as many other effects as possible. I would strongly encourage you to look for creatures that can do what you need done. Caustic Caterpillar and Foundation Breaker coupled with tutoring should give you some removal options, there are tons more in Green that vary in value. If you have enough creatures, Lurking Predators becomes pretty solid, even you are cheating in small creatures, a 50 creature deck can cheat out 3 or 4 of them per cycle, which is not something other decks will enjoy. A final point, I love running several Plaguecrafter/Demon's Disciple cards, Meren recurring them feels incredibly pushed in some metas.

Nel Toth Community College and Round Table is my Meren build based on all that (it's more than your desired budget, but it's got lots of fluff alongside pretty cutthroat stuff). It also has a good win con you can throw into a full on Dredge deck: Haakon, Stromgald Scourge is a really good way to generate repeated recursion, since you can just recast any Knights in your graveyard. Ashes of the Fallen and Maskwood Nexus can both make everything a Knight, but if you've got 4-5 to work with, you'll probably do okay. If you have a limited budget, it'll probably not be able to go infinite, but Haakon with Aristocrats should squeeze people out. If you want to go infinite, the best cards that are close to your budget are Pitiless Plunderer and Ashnod's Altar. Both work wonders. If you do use Haakon, you'll want some discard outlets in the deck, fortunately there are lots of good discard outlets in Green and Black. My deck has a few of them in it, and due to the available tutors as well, I am almost never stuck.