Bottomless Pit


Format Legality
Legacy Legal
Vintage Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal

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Stronghold Uncommon

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Bottomless Pit


At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player discards a card at random.

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Bottomless Pit Discussion

Coinman1863 on Nath of the Gilt-Leaf

2 weeks ago

If you intend to play this is a FFA, then I would highly suggest dropping most of your targeted creature removal and discard. In 4 player, those are significantly less good since removing 1-3 cards out of the potential 21 cards in hand you are facing isn't very good. Instead, your removal should be as wide reaching as possible. A good example of this is Beast Within.

Also in 4 player you don't need as much targeted removal because there are 2 other people who can deal with it at your table. For discard, I suggest Bottomless Pit and Necrogen Mists for you discard. I'd also add artifact ramp like Sol Ring because it ramps you way faster than land ramp.

Also if you are interested, here is my Nath list, Combo? Where We're Going, We Don't Need Combo, which includes a primer at the bottom which you can take some inspiration from if you want.

Hope this helps!

sonnet666 on [List - Multiplayer] EDH Generals by Tier

2 weeks ago

chaosumbreon87, Um... you missed the bit where you're wrong on more than half of that...

I'll agree with you on Kefnet the Mindful and Hazoret the Fervent. Kenfet is mediocre, and Hazoret is terribad for sure.

Hotcake_Gotsyrup: I mean, it doesn't stop all infinite combos, but that's a good way to look at it. Are there any Hatebear/Stax commanders in red that would like this guy?

DeckedGuru on Neheb Help Please?

2 weeks ago

sonnet666, thanks for the advice. Here's how I'll change my list, given your input.

  • I'll swap out Anthem of Rakdos for Gratuitous Violence, you're right there, no contest.
  • Grave Upheaval will be sticking in my list, mainly because I think the basic land cycling is how I'll quite often use it, and if I'm desperate to reanimate something, I'd rather I cast on my turn and the creature has haste. Put those two together on one card, overcosted though it is, and the modality is what has me sold.
  • Dark Withering never actually made it to the previous cut, because I felt the same way about it as you. Terminate is already taking up that spot. So spot-on insight there.
  • Once again, the modality on Kolaghan's Command is what has me sold and I've actually used all 4 modes in one commander game before.
  • Library of Leng will be staying in my list, (I know this reason is so scrubby it's unreal) mainly because it negates the negative feeling of discarding a card I really wanted to play, my list doesn't feature much graveyard recursion.
  • Larceny is just a smidge off curve for my list, so I'll not be adding it in, but it would probably go well in a different build.
  • Megrim and Liliana's Caress are getting the axe, but Quest for the Nihil Stone is going to stay because it actually works well in the list. So, out come Megrim and Carress and in go your recommendations of Bottomless Pit and Bloodchief Ascension
  • Finally, because of the theme that I'm trying for my list, I'm not putting cards like Phyrexian Arena or Geth's Grimoire in, but they would probably make the cut in someone else's list.

So yeah, thanks. Some pretty good suggestions. When they finally put Neheb, the Worthy in the cardlist here on TAPPEDOUT, I'll post my list on this thread.

sonnet666 on Neheb Help Please?

2 weeks ago

DeckedGuru, While I don't think you're going in the wrong direction, you listed a lot of sup-par cards right there:

As far as the hellbent theme goes, I wouldn't focus too much on it, since Neheb's effect isn't that great, and there are only two hellbent card worth including, which also aren't that great... Instead if you focus on just capitalizing on the cards you're throwing in the graveyard and stripping away your opponent's hands, then you can still draw lots of cards without being counter to your main strategy. Stuff like Geth's Grimoire and Phyrexian Arena can keep you flush while your opponents struggle to have things to play, and Mask of Memory fits really nicely here since our commander is low cost and is going to be attacking.

Also, Mindslicer, and Insidious Dreams + Reforge the Soul/Wheel of Fortune/Magus of the Wheel.

Springfluter on Neheb, the Meanotaur

2 weeks ago

Gibbering Descent - seems good, wanna add

Creeping Dread - like the card above but without hellbent and madness and costs more than Bottomless Pit

Oppression - have to test that, but it might be funny

Painful Quandary - similar to Oppression, have to test that, but it might be funny

Teferi's Puzzle Box - no discard, no dmg - I do not think this card is on theme

Whip of Erebos - reanimation and lifelink, that's what I was looking for. Ideas what to cut?

Springfluter on Queen Liliana's Stax Gambit

2 weeks ago

Das sind so die Sachen, die mir spontan zu Lili einfallen. Alles sehr discardlastig, bin mir nicht sicher wie viel man ohne Probleme spielen kann. Generell finde ich, dass du wenig draw hast, aber auch das mag funktionieren, kannst dich ja fix in ne Potence tutoren.

An sich gefaellt mir die Geschichte schon sehr gut, ich glaube es sind nur persoenliche Abneigungen die mich manche Karten herausnehmen lassen wuerden.

Coinman1863 on Handy Nath

4 weeks ago

I think your best inclusions would be Bottomless Pit and Necrogen Mists. This is because it hits everyone and is really inexpensive CMC wise.

I would also add Volrath's Stronghold to reuse creatures that you end up discarding.

Hope this helps!

Optimator on Uptown Rats

2 months ago

Looks good! Bottomless Pit, Oppression, and Waste Not would be good includes if you wanted more discard disruption

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