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Bottomless Pit Discussion
5 days ago
Ah, black discard...how I love it. Bottomless Pit might be a good fit.
1 week ago
MightyDarknut The deck you describe would never need Shirei and would be better as a Sidisi shell. Trying to involve Shirei means that one of 3 main stategies come into play:
1 - Go for a reanimator style list, with minor control elements. Abuse Apprentice Necromancer to the maximum, and have Shirei as a minor value pieces with some combo lines with Razaketh, the Foulblooded sacrificing creatures that trigger Shirei, so if the combo is disrupted, you have some board state to go off on your next turn. It could be a good mono-black combo list, as good as mono-black combo lists are in general, and can even have some very limited use for Shirei.
2 - Go for a stax list, abusing Shirei about as much as competitively viable as possible, trying to get good cards (think Bone Shredder ) that have innate value without Shirei and also a lot with, maybe 10-15 of these good useful creatures exist that work with Shirei and also aren't dead without like Heap Doll . Then run cards like Contamination , Smokestack , etc. and maybe even some hate pieces like Lethal Vapors if you are feeling... 'Out there.' Finish the deck off with a various amount of non-shirei based stax pieces like Sphere of Resistance , Thorn of Amethyst , Damping Matrix , Oppression , Bottomless Pit , Leyline of the Void , Chalice of the Void etc. and a large amount of instant speed interaction to hopefully survive the early game like Fatal Push , Dismember , Warping Wail , etc.
3 - Go with a Midrange combo list. Try to find some value-oriented creatures and a mix of interaction, maybe a few minor stax pieces that don't affect you, and then a bunch of tutors to find some hyper-card-efficient combo that may or may not interact with Shirei. Try some Ad Nauseam storm maybe, maybe a Buried Alive combo, who knows. Make it survive the early game a get their turns 4-5 for the midgame win, with a decent controlling backbone to lie on when you can't combo out as early as you would want, due to a stax piece you need removed or whatever.
1 week ago
I don't think you understand Stasis is a lock piece, not a combo, Winter Orb, Static Orb, Tangle Wire, and many other cards replacing it when you need to shut down an opponent, and that the deck can be built on a different combo, oftentimes Rest in Peace/Leyline of the Void and Helm of Obedience or any walker that can ultimate, the combo isn't a major part of Staxshifter, while being useful. The deck is a Stax deck, and Aminatou can run other cheaper stax when it wants to. Fall of the Thran is a favorite budget stax include, and Bottomless Pit is too.
2 weeks ago
DangoDaikazoku: I've tested out Oppression in my initial list but it kinda is a nonbo with the constant Ghostly Flicker lock I'm trying to get. Bottomless Pit is the same deal, randomly discarding into one of my key bounce spells is more detrimental than disruption. I do like the idea of either Necrogen Mists or Liliana of the Veil...need to start finding spaces for them. Chains is unfortunately too expensive for me but will definitely be a strong consideration once I've saved enough to get one. Thanks! :)
2 weeks ago
Also congrats on getting the number one position on the top decks list on the homepage! :)
3 weeks ago
Aphoticate Jeleva is probably the best pure storm deck, but I am not a fan in tier 1, it is relatively consistent, yes, but I doubt that alone is what is cared about. I just think after playtesting the deck a lot, it falls to a lot of stax really hard, moreso than other combo decks, almost any stax hits it, from Null Rod, Thorn of Amethyst, Sphere of Resistance, Stony Silence, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Arcane Laboratory, Vryn Wingmare, Lodestone Golem, Armageddon, Static Orb, Stasis, Winter Orb, Rule of Law, Eidolon of Rhetoric, Notion Thief, Spirit of the Labyrinth, Ethersworn Canonist, Glowrider, Chains of Mephistopheles, Rest in Peace, Grafdigger's Cage, Leyline of the Void, Chalice of the Void, Trinisphere, Oppression, Bottomless Pit, Liliana of the Veil, etc.
Tons of hate hurts storm waay more than other decks, as they try to abuse the game the most, the game's anti-abusers hurt it the most in response.
3 weeks ago
Also don't be afraid to put in some small discard sorcery cards. For example Hymn to Tourach is pretty solid. For two mana you make somebody discard 2 cards at RANDOM. Random discards are very powerful because they can really mess up a player's tempo. That is another reason why Bottomless Pit and Mind Twist are very powerful. Smallpox is another powerful card to play. It fits in the discard theme but it also does a bunch of other stuff that messes with a lot of people's tempo early game.
Also think about putting maybe one or two, one mana discard cards. I run it in Nebuchadnezzar because it supports his ability very well but having the power of seeing an opponents hand early game can help you figure out which opponent is the biggest threat and who you should be making discard faster. Thoughtseize is the best one mana drop discard. Close seconds would be Duress and Inquisition of Kozilek. I only recommend though using one or two just because having too many one drop discard cards can end up back firing for you. Its just nice value, you get to pick what gets discarded and you get to see how strong there hand is, if its really powerful you bully that guy and if its not amazing you can pick on another player.
Last little tip: When playing a discard deck, you will either be ignored because people underestimate your strength and consider your deck as a nuisance but not a threat or you will be considered the villain of the table and be targeted cause nobody wants to throw away there cards. Because of that, I recommend No Mercy. Its a nice defensive card that tells people to back off and to let you be.
I hope this all helps out.
3 weeks ago
I run a black/blue discard deck, Nebuchadnezzar is the commander. I recommend cards like Oppression and Bottomless Pit. Even though they hurt you, they are too powerful to pass up in my opinion. In essence they will be top decking a lot faster with those enchantments on the field. I also run in my discard deck, Reanimate, Necromancy, and Animate Dead as a way to steal other players powerful creatures that they ended up discarding. Sepulchral Primordial is also a wonderful big guy to run in a discard deck. He is pretty powerful by himself but he steals multiple creatures for you. You also should consider the most powerful discard card in the game, Mind Twist. I also run its weaker version too, Mind Shatter. Also Liliana's Specter is pretty nice, 3 mana causes all your opponents to discard one card. I recommend checking out my Nebuchadnezzar deck for my ideas, discard and graveyard decks are my favorite stuff.
Overall, your deck looks like a lot of fun and I hope you cause mayhem in your games.